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Posted: 7/7/2020 8:40:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/7/2020 8:43:13 PM EDT
[#1]
Interesting
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Posted: 7/7/2020 8:46:21 PM EDT
[#2]
Plan B .....+
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Posted: 7/7/2020 8:49:30 PM EDT
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I’m glad to see DA bringing new things to market. I’m a huge fan and heavy user of Dead Air cans. I’m guessing that will be a lighter solution than KeyMo.
For the love of all that is holy though, produce enough to meet demand! |
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Posted: 7/7/2020 8:50:39 PM EDT
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Maybe they’ll have one for the Sandman line like Area419 does?
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Posted: 7/7/2020 8:58:05 PM EDT
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I wondered when the Keymo for The Poors (shamelessly stolen from the FB announcement comments) would show up here.
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Posted: 7/7/2020 9:15:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m glad to see DA bringing new things to market. I’m a huge fan and heavy user of Dead Air cans. I’m guessing that will be a lighter solution than KeyMo. For the love of all that is holy though, produce enough to meet demand! how much lighter will it really be over the keymo? if you are going for ultralight, a sandman is not your best option anyway. if you are going with a nomad, you go direct thread to save the weight anyway, right? not being prickly, just trying to sound it out... |
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Posted: 7/7/2020 9:22:49 PM EDT
[#7]
Looks great! Depending on weight it may replace my plan b.
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Posted: 7/7/2020 9:22:51 PM EDT
[#8]
I like how this complements their existing suite of products.
Nice work guys. |
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Posted: 7/7/2020 9:31:01 PM EDT
[#9]
Mike and Todd-
Thank you baby Jesus for putting some wrench flats on there. That warmed my heart. |
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Posted: 7/7/2020 9:43:43 PM EDT
[#10]
Ghost/Wolfman adapters please! and 9mm 1/2x28 and 1/2x36
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Posted: 7/7/2020 10:04:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mike and Todd- Thank you baby Jesus for putting some wrench flats on there. That warmed my heart. This! Also, I might buy it just for the name alone...... |
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Posted: 7/7/2020 10:52:17 PM EDT
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Looks very well designed! Hope the weight savings over Keymo are tangible and make it a good compliment to their non-sandman cans. The adapter looks to be Plan A XL sized, but that could just be the muzzle device. I’d definitely be interested in this for a wolfman if the size and weight make sense for a 9mm PCC.
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Posted: 7/7/2020 11:37:23 PM EDT
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If they are offering this with a 9mm compatible muzzle device might change my plans to pair a Keymo adapter onto an R9.
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Posted: 7/7/2020 11:47:16 PM EDT
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It has me curious i do like the taper ahead of the thread design, though both work. Seems the taper in front is cleaner in my experience. I'm pretty heavily invested in plan A though, time will tell, if there is enough of a selection and availability to warrant the switch i will do so. Glad to see more competition, seems long over due honestly.
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Posted: 7/8/2020 12:06:39 AM EDT
[#15]
I think this looks great!! I love the A2 styling!
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Posted: 7/8/2020 1:54:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mike and Todd- Thank you baby Jesus for putting some wrench flats on there. That warmed my heart. Concur. I'll be interested to see what the total system weight is, and what different muzzle device options come out. |
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Posted: 7/8/2020 2:47:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think this looks great!! I love the A2 styling! Having just learned about the Area 419 Sandman adapters, I would say that your timing was impeccable! You've already taken the market by storm with the KeyMo adapter, but this also fulfills the demands of those looking for a lighter, simpler taper mount system. Well done, Dead Air! 
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Posted: 7/8/2020 3:08:08 AM EDT
[#18]
I am already invested in Plan A, but this looks really nice. I would like like to see if they are making a comp.
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Posted: 7/8/2020 4:21:26 AM EDT
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With a name like that, I'd expect something more... Gigery.
A Giger inspired suppressor would be rather funny though |
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Posted: 7/8/2020 5:52:25 AM EDT
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All TI?
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Posted: 7/8/2020 11:16:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All TI? That would be pretty sweet if it was. I also see the standard Q/KB shit talking of it has already begun so using that as our barometer we should be able to conclude that its going to be a pretty nice product.
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Posted: 7/8/2020 11:35:05 AM EDT
[#22]
Soooo.... for those of us that can't Instagram too good..... How do you see the stories, looking on their IG page I don't see that post...
R Dum, need Halp. |
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Posted: 7/8/2020 11:35:08 AM EDT
[#23]
……...
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Posted: 7/8/2020 11:50:06 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: delaying orgasm. so, can you give me details.... for science? hahahahahahahahaha |
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Posted: 7/8/2020 12:18:01 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: so, can you give me details.... for science? hahahahahahahahaha Baseball |
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Posted: 7/8/2020 12:21:12 PM EDT
[#26]
Does anyone know what it weighs?
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Posted: 7/8/2020 12:22:19 PM EDT
[#27]
My Nomad has been out of jail for about a month and I've been debating which mounting system to go with. This is just what the doctor ordered.
Now where do I buy? |
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Posted: 7/8/2020 12:45:48 PM EDT
[#28]
Sweet! @mageever when we expect this?
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Posted: 7/8/2020 12:46:40 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Baseball Quote HistoryQuoted: Baseball Can confirm I've used this. Quoted: Does anyone know what it weighs? That's one of my main questions. Their follow-up instagram story alluded to a weight of 1.9 oz - I don't know if that is the total system or just the flash hider or what. |
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Posted: 7/8/2020 12:50:33 PM EDT
[#30]
That really is a nice looking flash hider. It's very streamlined, and doesn't look nearly as bulky or obtrusive as some of the other mounting options on the market.
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Posted: 7/8/2020 2:36:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Q/KB talks shit about Form 1 builders on his podcast, so his soft ego is easily threatened even by people and activities that aren’t a threat to his business. Form 1 builders can be a gateway to acquiring good commercial cans, and for those into collections of cans, the Form 1 builds can fill niches for which commercial products don’t exist. The ones that are copies can be free advertising (I copied the Trash Panda paint scheme because it’s hot shit...). I don't think you were paying close attention while you were listening to his podcast... |
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Posted: 7/8/2020 3:24:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Soooo.... for those of us that can't Instagram too good..... How do you see the stories, looking on their IG page I don't see that post... R Dum, need Halp. @Gtscotty Tap on their "profile pic" in the top left. That is where IG "Stories" are posted. They are simple stories that are on a 24 hour timer and then expire, they dont stay around after that unless the poster makes sure they save them. 
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Posted: 7/8/2020 4:52:17 PM EDT
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First off, thanks for all the positive comments everyone. We've never teased a product in this manner while still going through validation testing, but we know people will love it and this will help keep the heat on us to get it out the door faster. ;-) It's good to note that this is not meant to replace the KeyMo, but provides yet another solution for our customers that have been asking for it. We're happy to oblige.
The 1.9 oz is for the adapter. The mount will vary depending on thread and configuration. Any manufacturer that only gives you one mount weight is playing marketing games. A 1/2-28 mount weighs more than a 5/8-24 (from the added material around the small threads) and a flash hider can be much different than a brake. Expect something right in line with other taper mounts are in the industry. We're not doing anything weird like make them out of titanium. That's exactly the wrong choice for a muzzle device. Unless you're really hip. And I don't see myself as a super hip dude. Dates are to follow. Just note that we're in final validation testing and we'll then go into production. Production precedes product release so if anyone knows how long it makes to make a grundle of parts, ship them to a coater, then ship them to the plant for final assembly, and then ship to wholesalers may be get a clue on how much more time we have. Until then, the xenophobes will be coming out of the woodwork. Don't be a xenophobe. Lol. Todd Magee Dead Air Engineering |
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Posted: 7/8/2020 5:09:47 PM EDT
[#34]
……….
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Posted: 7/8/2020 7:03:13 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Expect something right in line with other taper mounts are in the industry. We're not doing anything weird like make them out of titanium. That's exactly the wrong choice for a muzzle device. Unless you're really hip. And I don't see myself as a super hip dude What's wrong with titanium for a muzzle device? How is it different than a titanium silencer direct threaded onto your barrel? I'm not arguing with you by any means, just looking to learn something. I'm waiting on a nomad, and am exploring mounting options. Thanks. |
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Posted: 7/8/2020 7:04:40 PM EDT
[#36]
@mageever
Any plans for a muzzle break? |
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Posted: 7/8/2020 7:19:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's wrong with titanium for a muzzle device? How is it different than a titanium silencer direct threaded onto your barrel? I'm not arguing with you by any means, just looking to learn something. I'm waiting on a nomad, and am exploring mounting options. Thanks. IMO, it's ok as long as people understand it's a wear item and plan to use it for non-abusive firing schedules. It may also introduce some sparks as material is ablated off and pushed out the suppressor. |
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Posted: 7/8/2020 10:11:57 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mike and Todd- Thank you baby Jesus for putting some wrench flats on there. That warmed my heart. Wait till people start asking if shims are cool so they can vertically align the flats.
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Posted: 7/8/2020 11:22:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait till people start asking if shims are cool so they can vertically align the flats. Oh I am counting on it. Some people's kids......... |
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Posted: 7/8/2020 11:35:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait till people start asking if shims are cool so they can vertically align the flats. I'm sure someone will also be asking if its long enough for a pin and weld to get a 14.5 out of NFA territory  I just hope they decide to make the 1/2x28 version bored for a 9mm projectile. |
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Posted: 7/9/2020 1:09:26 AM EDT
[#41]
Well, I already picked up a Plan A-XL, though I'm seriously interested in the Xeno.
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Posted: 7/9/2020 9:15:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure someone will also be asking if its long enough for a pin and weld to get a 14.5 out of NFA territory I just hope they decide to make the 1/2x28 version bored for a 9mm projectile. I was pondering pinning and welding as well. It doesn't look like there's a lot of real estate for drilling, but hard to tell. |
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Posted: 7/9/2020 12:16:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was pondering pinning and welding as well. It doesn't look like there's a lot of real estate for drilling, but hard to tell. Lulz |
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Posted: 7/9/2020 12:35:27 PM EDT
[#44]
Super excited for this!!
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Posted: 7/9/2020 2:13:37 PM EDT
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So whats up with all the shit talk from Q towards dead air lately? It used to seem like KB and Papis were on good terms and I've heard KB say good things about him/them before.
No all the sudden "dead air copies everything" and "dead air is the next Griffin" All this coming from a company that literally copies other peoples ideas and calls it "innovation". Then say that company actually copied them! Fuck it reminds me of my ex, if you lie enough, eventually even you believe it? |
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Posted: 7/9/2020 3:44:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So whats up with all the shit talk from Q towards dead air lately? It used to seem like KB and Papis were on good terms and I've heard KB say good things about him/them before. No all the sudden "dead air copies everything" and "dead air is the next Griffin" All this coming from a company that literally copies other peoples ideas and calls it "innovation". Then say that company actually copied them! Fuck it reminds me of my ex, if you lie enough, eventually even you believe it? That's because Griffin is a performing brand and a threat. Dead air apparently got close to the category in KB's mind, so now they are getting bagged shit on because the game is hate the performers. We just ordered 80,000lbs of material (which is near net bar stock), and literally had to book a truck to get a formerly ordered quantity here because we ran out of a stock size with a relatively lightning fast 2 month mill run ETA on that replacement material. At Q it's quiet. At Griffin there is a thunderous noise 24 hours a day because machines are tearing cans out of material all day long. You can feel the cans being made here, by just standing on the concrete. |
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Posted: 7/9/2020 4:20:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So whats up with all the shit talk from Q towards dead air lately? It used to seem like KB and Papis were on good terms and I've heard KB say good things about him/them before. No all the sudden "dead air copies everything" and "dead air is the next Griffin" All this coming from a company that literally copies other peoples ideas and calls it "innovation". Then say that company actually copied them! Fuck it reminds me of my ex, if you lie enough, eventually even you believe it? KB claims that Q and Dead Air had a verbal agreement for licensing in regards to the similarity of the Odessa and the Erector. Once the paperwork was sent over, Dead Air backed out. KB has always liked Mike and blames the issues on the owners. You have to admit that a lot of DA designs appear to be similar to designs Q has made popular. Pretty soon someone could put together a chart like this for Q/DA  |
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Posted: 7/9/2020 5:47:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: KB claims that Q and Dead Air had a verbal agreement for licensing in regards to the similarity of the Odessa and the Erector. Once the paperwork was sent over, Dead Air backed out. KB has always liked Mike and blames the issues on the owners. You have to admit that a lot of DA designs appear to be similar to designs Q has made popular. Pretty soon someone could put together a chart like this for Q/DA http://i.imgur.com/Lf0EguGh.jpg I'm not a lawyer, but I read an open wrench as a tool requiring at least one recess- typically two. If KB thinks he's got a case, he should sue. Meme pictures are not actual IP concerns. Bill gates and Steve jobs in a picture is a similar concept- two semi bald old guys in the computer business doesn't mean microsoft and Apple are emulating each other. I certainly don't get the feeling that Apple is Windows, even though there are many passing similarities like closing tasks at the upper right. Maybe Dead Air has some opinion of prior art they could use to win that case, but the USPTO is supposed to do a pretty decent job of ensuring an idea is novel before granting a patent. |
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Posted: 7/9/2020 8:07:38 PM EDT
[#49]
This thread is about to get LIT
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Posted: 7/9/2020 8:09:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread is about to get LIT *pours another drink |
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