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Posted: 12/18/2017 11:44:29 PM EDT
This thing sounds pretty perfect: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/12/jeremy-s/coming-soon-thunder-beast-hard-use-ar-15-suppressor-complete-upper/
Sub 140db at the shooter's ear and I'm assuming lower back pressure to do that. Shortish, light (no weight given yet, they just say light), durable, $495 MSRP, TBAC levels of accuracy, can even be pinned and welded. TBAC Ray, are you able to give anymore details on this upcoming can at this point? Looks like you may have another winner. |
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Besides the price, this is what I was happiest to see:
"On sound, TBAC has tuned the suppressor around volume level at the shooter's ear. It's a little louder at the muzzle than it could be in order to reduce pop out of the ejection port." I saw a video recently with Mike & Gary from Dead Air, where they indicated that their suppressors may meter higher at the muzzle, but that they design them around suppression at the shooter's ear. Why everyone doesn't do this, I don't know. When I'm shooting, I don't care what it sounds like at the muzzle, I care about my ears. |
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The article eludes to using it on a 5.56 AR but doesn't actually state the suppressor bore. We can assume it is a 5.56 sized silencer but maybe it is a .30 caliber to aid in the "reduced back pressure" statements. At that price point it may be a good option for 300 BLK, if it is sized for it of course.
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I saw it recently. It’s definitely bad ass. I will be ready to buy the upper when they drop. Really slick package very well balanced and basically indestructible from the FA testing I saw. Real nice can. All for 495? Count me in.
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Some people may be more concerned with reducing the ability of others to locate and return fire. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Here's a video from a couple months ago. This is the 556TD on a 10.5" In the video I said something about 9.3" Don't remember what I was thinking back then. 10.5" pinned will be a 1 stamp. I'll get some videos of the complete upper tomorrow if weather allows.
https://youtu.be/SKgaa6nCuw0 It shoots very smooth. I shot 44 mags through one a few weeks ago and had no carbon on the right side of my face at all. |
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Looks pretty interesting. I'm not able to see the video though...maybe I'm doing it wrong.
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Sorry I forgot to hit Publish. Its there now. Like I said I'll try to get the upper out tomorrow. 10.5 upper feels very good with this can on it.
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Where did you see 26-27 oz? I haven't seen a weight mentioned here or SH. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Video says it is a stout 26-27 ounces. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Ok, here are the details on the 556 TAKE DOWN, consider these pretty solid but subject to change,
https://thunderbeastarms.com/products/556-take-down The 556 TAKE DOWN is pretty much a replacement of the 223A that is quieter on an AR-15 and is user disassemble-able, and about half its price. We should have the dedicated upper info online in a day or two |
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26-27oz!? Eek. I was interested until I heard that. Heck, I passed on one of those sub $300 Sig 5.56 cans because they were 22 ounces Except for being user serviceable the Spartan does the same thing at under 13 ounces |
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Hi,
The 556 Take Down was originally designed to meet the 2017 SURG solicitation (in conjunction with an upper obviously), which includes pretty stringent dB (ear and muzzle) and cost requirements, firing schedule / thermal requirements, as well as the ability to fully service and replace the core without removing the suppressor from the upper, and some other stuff that typically does not apply to the commercial market (like blank firing adapter compatibility and survivability when fired with live ammo by accident). The result of that design problem was this set of features. Going all out for a 10" F/A capable suppressor with a QD, light weight, etc, like we did for precision rifle with the Ultras, would have been more expensive and also not met the other requirements (e.g. nominal cost core replacement without removing suppressor from "integrated" upper). It is very likely that we will address that application in the future. |
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For full auto use on barrels as short as 7" the cost/weight/performance-strength trade offs seem to have been met really well at that price point. I'd like to hear a little more about the benefit of the ribbed exterior.
I imagine the primary market for this will be on registered hosts where pinning won't be required. Nitride treatment of the baffles makes a lot of sense. Looking forward to hearing user reports in the months ahead. |
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It's nice to see a spec for "full-auto rated". "8 30-round magazines fired back to back from a 10" upper, magazines alternating burst/rapid fire and full automatic magazine dumps."
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For full auto use on barrels as short as 7" the cost/weight/performance-strength trade offs seem to have been met really well at that price point. View Quote |
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I've beat the shit out of a a few of these. I ran full SURGE cycles and much much worse. They are good to go. The ribs really aid in cooling. The SURG solicitation was looking for unicorn feathers. This is what we came up with for it. I love it for my truck and house gun. I did 44 mags the other day and the right side of my face was clean.
Live rounds with the blank firing adapter in is a fun test. I think this can has a place with practice guys that like to train a lot. I like it. Sorry was to windy for numbers and video. Go figure wind in WY. |
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I have a TBAC 223A that I run on my 7 inch M-16. I am very happy with it.
Great to see TBAC bringing out a repairable version thats a touch lighter. Not many companies offer cans rated for the little 7 inch guns. |
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Had me till I read this. Plenty of sub 20oz can on the market that can handle FA.
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Literally zero interest in this. It's barely cheaper than an M4-2000 or Saker K which will both take the abuse and weigh substantially less even with their QD mounts.
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I have a TBAC 223A that I run on my 7 inch M-16. I am very happy with it. Great to see TBAC bringing out a repairable version thats a touch lighter. . View Quote 223A is listed as 22.5 oz. 556 Takedown as 27.0 oz. |
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Keeping it strong enough while still being able to take it apart, and keeping the cost down, contributed significantly to its weight. We have other heavy-duty cans on the todo list, but they will be more expensive.
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