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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - AK 308 variant or CETME

Posted: 8/31/2004 9:24:03 PM EDT

What do you guys think? How do they compare in reliability and accuracy etc...

TIA

Posted: 9/1/2004 3:26:12 AM EDT

[#1]

AK!!!!!!!

CETME is basically an hk and it's a pain in the ass to clean because of how it strips down. AK is loose fitting and much more reliable. HK/CETME rifles you general have to clean religiously or at least close to it. You have to maintain them a little more than you would an AR-15. At least that's what I've heard and my limited experience with HKs tells me that what I've heard is not far off from the truth. I had a lot of problems with an hk-91 when I shot it. It may have just been had ammo, but let me put it this way, the AK you barely have to clean at all. Drop the fucker in mud pick it up and keep SHOOTING! nuff said.

oh yeah one question? where you going to buy a 308 AK?

Posted: 9/1/2004 7:37:01 AM EDT

[#2]

There are the Saigas, Veprs and Dragonov (7.62x54) styles.

Posted: 9/1/2004 8:43:23 AM EDT

[#3]

cetme

Posted: 9/1/2004 9:14:18 AM EDT

[#4]

An actually well built CETME is hard to beat (esp with a Bill Springfield trigger job), but a decent 308 AK is an easier buy.
10 cent good surp 54r has it's own appeal.
hicaps matter to you?

Posted: 9/1/2004 10:01:02 AM EDT

[#5]

Saigas are great, Only drawback is the 10Rd Mag (After you cut down the follower), Super reliable, Chrome lined barrel, Very east to convert to pistol grip stock & The can be picked up for around $200!

Posted: 9/1/2004 2:29:14 PM EDT

[#6]

send it to Kreb's Kustom gunwork. He can add a high cap feature to it.

Posted: 9/1/2004 5:57:19 PM EDT

[#7]

Once you go FAL you never go back!

Posted: 9/2/2004 6:13:32 AM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
AK!!!!!!!

CETME is basically an hk and it's a pain in the ass to clean because of how it strips down. AK is loose fitting and much more reliable. HK/CETME rifles you general have to clean religiously or at least close to it. You have to maintain them a little more than you would an AR-15. At least that's what I've heard and my limited experience with HKs tells me that what I've heard is not far off from the truth. I had a lot of problems with an hk-91 when I shot it. It may have just been had ammo, but let me put it this way, the AK you barely have to clean at all. Drop the fucker in mud pick it up and keep SHOOTING! nuff said.

oh yeah one question? where you going to buy a 308 AK?

I think your ammo was the cause of your problems with the HK. I have two real HK91s and one Cetme. The HKs will not jam, and you do not have to clean them all the time. But it is good to clean every gun after shooting it. To clean a HK simply push out the two pins in the stock, remove the stock then pull the charging handle back which releases the bolt. Very easy to clean.
The Cetme I have works great, but I shopped around to find the one I like. I have been looking at a VEPR .308 AK, I think they look good, but my Cetme was almost $200 less then the VEPR.

Posted: 9/2/2004 11:13:37 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
Once you go FAL you never go back!

Absolutely, they are wonderful. I'm hopeing the only reason he isnt asking about a FAL is because he already owns three. If not, check out ORF, DSA and Entreprise, STG-58 has always been my favorite (along with the Izzy).

Jack

Posted: 9/2/2004 3:07:45 PM EDT

[#10]

I have owned Fals, Cetmes, HKs and still have a Saiga .308 AK. I like the Saiga better after converting to pistol grip configuration and installing a receiver peep sight, orginal trigger was horrible! No matter what I have tried, I still like the M1A/M14 type rifles best!

Posted: 9/3/2004 8:11:25 AM EDT

[#11]

To clean a HK simply push out the two pins in the stock, remove the stock then pull the charging handle back which releases the bolt. Very easy to clean.

I'm not dissing HKs...I have a few clones, but that is how you take it down, how do you actually get inside the receiver and clean the think heavy greasy shit in the area where the bolt locks up..trunion area????

Posted: 9/3/2004 8:32:33 AM EDT

[#12]

Lots of piper-cleaners

Posted: 9/3/2004 9:45:26 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
To clean a HK simply push out the two pins in the stock, remove the stock then pull the charging handle back which releases the bolt. Very easy to clean.

I'm not dissing HKs...I have a few clones, but that is how you take it down, how do you actually get inside the receiver and clean the think heavy greasy shit in the area where the bolt locks up..trunion area????

E&L makes a very nice brush just for this.

http://www.brasscatchers.com/acc.htm#cleaning%20brushes

Posted: 9/4/2004 8:28:15 AM EDT

[#14]

45 cal bore brush,small tooth brush, and carb cleaner,,ya spray it out,, jab a pacth in there,,
dont use as much oil or grease and it wont be as bad!

cetme is 50% more accuarte than an AK,,and is in 762x51 ,,so at 400m its gonna puch 4 times harder than 762x39....... and actually hit what ya want!

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