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Posted: 9/23/2020 6:06:03 PM EDT
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I've been looking for a Mk II, III or III 22/45 Frame for awhile and haven't seen any in stock. Also haven't seen any MK IV.
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Posted: 9/24/2020 9:27:39 AM EDT
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Wirthwein gets some MKIV frames in pretty frequently. Warning though, they ain’t cheap. You’re almost better to buy the cheapest MKIV pistol you can.
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Posted: 9/24/2020 9:35:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wirthwein gets some MKIV frames in pretty frequently. Warning though, they ain’t cheap. You’re almost better to buy the cheapest MKIV pistol you can. I wasn't aware of that site, thanks for sharing @Outrider Their frames are all OOS at the moment, but the listed prices are pretty much exactly what I'd pay for a base 22/45 in my area. |
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Posted: 9/25/2020 12:18:29 AM EDT
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Damn those are spendy for just a frame. Buying a full gun doesnt appeal to me sadly. Because then I'd just have another upper sitting around.
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Posted: 9/25/2020 11:17:29 PM EDT
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FYI the MK III and MK IV mags are not fully interchangeable.
The MK IV mags will fit in the MK III but the opposite is not true. That’s due to the fact there is a back lip on the MK IV magwell that is absent on the III. You can buy base plates for the MK III mags and convert them. Alternatively you can file the back lip off the magwell of the MK IV. Then you would have full interchangeability. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 2:11:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FYI the MK III and MK IV mags are not fully interchangeable. The MK IV mags will fit in the MK III but the opposite is not true. That's due to the fact there is a back lip on the MK IV magwell that is absent on the III. You can buy base plates for the MK III mags and convert them. Alternatively you can file the back lip off the magwell of the MK IV. Then you would have full interchangeability. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 4:06:26 AM EDT
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Quoted: Damn those are spendy for just a frame. Buying a full gun doesnt appeal to me sadly. Because then I'd just have another upper sitting around. Welcome to 22/45 world. We have been waiting for aftermarket options for a decade. Volquartsen is it and if you think ones you already looked at were spendy you ain't seen nothin yet. Quoted: FYI the MK III and MK IV mags are not fully interchangeable. The MK IV mags will fit in the MK III but the opposite is not true. That’s due to the fact there is a back lip on the MK IV magwell that is absent on the III. You can buy base plates for the MK III mags and convert them. Alternatively you can file the back lip off the magwell of the MK IV. Then you would have full interchangeability. Has anyone modified the MKIV frames yet? I checked them out when they first came out and it sure looked like that was the case. I have a pile of MKII and III 22/45 guns and am not looking to add yet another magazine. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 8:45:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wirthwein gets some MKIV frames in pretty frequently. Warning though, they ain’t cheap. You’re almost better to buy the cheapest MKIV pistol you can. Just wanted to add, Wirthwein Guns are some of the nicest folks in the industry. Great source for hard-to-find Ruger stuff. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 11:05:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Welcome to 22/45 world. We have been waiting for aftermarket options for a decade. Volquartsen is it and if you think ones you already looked at were spendy you ain't seen nothin yet. Has anyone modified the MKIV frames yet? I checked them out when they first came out and it sure looked like that was the case. I have a pile of MKII and III 22/45 guns and am not looking to add yet another magazine. I’ve seen some tutorials on filing the frame down. I have a VQ Scorpion and wanted mag compatibility but decided to get an MK III 22/45 instead. If you know the secret rain dance field stripping and reassembling an MK III is cake. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 1:01:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve seen some tutorials on filing the frame down. I have a VQ Scorpion and wanted mag compatibility but decided to get an MK III 22/45 instead. If you know the secret rain dance field stripping and reassembling an MK III is cake. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Welcome to 22/45 world. We have been waiting for aftermarket options for a decade. Volquartsen is it and if you think ones you already looked at were spendy you ain't seen nothin yet. Has anyone modified the MKIV frames yet? I checked them out when they first came out and it sure looked like that was the case. I have a pile of MKII and III 22/45 guns and am not looking to add yet another magazine. I’ve seen some tutorials on filing the frame down. I have a VQ Scorpion and wanted mag compatibility but decided to get an MK III 22/45 instead. If you know the secret rain dance field stripping and reassembling an MK III is cake. I’ll have to look around again and see if I can find them. At this point it’s silly to even be looking as I have a pile of MKII guns and at least one MKIII is its mostly just educational at this point. The takedown never bothered me much especially since I’m a run it till it doesn’t work kind of guy. |
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Posted: 10/18/2020 2:52:32 PM EDT
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Bump for any further leads...
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Posted: 10/18/2020 3:13:07 PM EDT
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It sucks.
I this era of 80% guns and current manufacturing abilities, it amazes me no one has took on a suitable replacement frame, Especially since it is a non-serialized part. |
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Posted: 10/18/2020 4:03:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: It sucks. I this era of 80% guns and current manufacturing abilities, it amazes me no one has took on a suitable replacement frame, Especially since it is a non-serialized part. It's not even this era. I honestly believe there has been a market for at least 20 years. |
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Posted: 10/19/2020 1:01:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It sucks. I this era of 80% guns and current manufacturing abilities, it amazes me no one has took on a suitable replacement frame, Especially since it is a non-serialized part. A few months ago I was playing around with my P80 frame and MK IV upper, just resting it there in the frame thinking how cool that'd be. I'm sure someone resourceful with a 3d printer could force them together but it probably wouldn't be cheap. |
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Posted: 10/19/2020 11:42:44 AM EDT
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I asked Volquartsen about a MK4 lower and their answer was Ruger IP prevented them from doing their own MK4 lower.
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Posted: 10/20/2020 6:40:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I asked Volquartsen about a MK4 lower and their answer was Ruger IP prevented them from doing their own MK4 lower. I wonder how they got around the mark III frame IP... I'd love a polymer lower with the MKIV grip angle. I did buy an aluminum frame from worthwein and they are great to deal with. Bought a black Friday stripped MKIV upper for $22 bucks from VQ... turned into a pricey project lol |
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Posted: 10/20/2020 7:33:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder how they got around the mark III frame IP... I'd love a polymer lower with the MKIV grip angle. I did buy an aluminum frame from worthwein and they are great to deal with. Bought a black Friday stripped MKIV upper for $22 bucks from VQ... turned into a pricey project lol Isn’t the takedown procedure the same for the older Rugers? I think the push button takedown is the issue on the Mk4. |
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