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Posted: 2/14/2018 2:29:18 PM EDT
So I purchased a TRP from SA, brand new. I put 20 rounds through it, and found out there was a step on the breach-face, causing the head-stamp of the cases to have a smear.

I contacted SA, and they sent me an RMA and said "Send it in, we'll take care of it."

Received it back today. Paperwork said "polished breach-face, safety check / test".

Below are the pictures of the breach-face, before and after

I was kinda hoping they would re-finish the slide, so the whole thing was black like it came from the factory. That was also one reason I sent it back.

Should I worry about this? Am I being too picky?

On a $500 gun, fine, whatever. But this is a $1,700 pistol (it's a full-rail model Operator).





Link Posted: 2/14/2018 2:40:51 PM EDT
[#1]
Runs 100%?

Don’t care before or after
Link Posted: 2/14/2018 2:52:50 PM EDT
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So I purchased a TRP from SA, brand new. I put 20 rounds through it, and found out there was a step on the breach-face, causing the head-stamp of the cases to have a smear.

I contacted SA, and they sent me an RMA and said "Send it in, we'll take care of it."

Received it back today. Paperwork said "polished breach-face, safety check / test".

Below are the pictures of the breach-face, before and after

I was kinda hoping they would re-finish the slide, so the whole thing was black like it came from the factory. That was also one reason I sent it back.

Should I worry about this? Am I being too picky?

On a $500 gun, fine, whatever. But this is a $1,700 pistol (it's a full-rail model Operator).
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IMHO - Too picky. That part will wear no matter what and if they did not do anything to mare the slide in a vice or any tooling marks and it is just the way you sent it, I see no reason to re-coat the whole slide unless you paid for that or there was an issue. I could be completely wrong but that is how I see it.
Link Posted: 2/14/2018 2:54:49 PM EDT
[#3]
Looks kind of half assed to me, especially since it was a manufacturing defect that was repaired. They could have at least polished smoother. I would at talk to them about it and see what they say..
Link Posted: 2/14/2018 3:04:53 PM EDT
[#4]
I wouldn't care. Shoot enough rounds through it the finish will be worn off anyway.
Link Posted: 2/14/2018 3:11:47 PM EDT
[#5]
you paid $1,700 for a pistol? That says a lot about you.
Link Posted: 2/14/2018 3:27:00 PM EDT
[#6]
I think it's fine.  That spot is not going to keep any finish anyway.

If they refinished the slide it probably wouldn't perfectly match the frame.
Link Posted: 2/14/2018 3:33:44 PM EDT
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you paid $1,700 for a pistol? That says a lot about you.
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MSRP on the full-rail Operator is $1,700, I didn't pay that much. Just making the point that it's not a base-model GI, but one of their upper-end 1911s.
Link Posted: 2/14/2018 3:41:00 PM EDT
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Not sure what that is supposed to mean.   I have quite a few custom pistols worth more than $1700 each.  Doesn't mean crap other than I like what I like.   There are people here that spend $10,000 on a .50 cal rifle.  Are you going to crap on them too?  Some like Hyundais, some like Ferrari's .

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Link Posted: 2/14/2018 4:21:34 PM EDT
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Not a visible location, so it wouldn't bother me enough to send it back.   I'd just hit it with some Birchwood Perma Blue.
Link Posted: 2/14/2018 4:35:36 PM EDT
[#10]
I would not be bothered by that.
Link Posted: 2/14/2018 5:04:33 PM EDT
[#11]
Kind of piss poor machining, and repair for a expensive pistol. Sorry, but for the price of the TRP operator, you should have bought a Dan Wesson Specialist.
Link Posted: 2/14/2018 5:38:43 PM EDT
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Kind of piss poor machining, and repair for a expensive pistol. Sorry, but for the price of the TRP operator, you should have bought a Dan Wesson Specialist.
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DW Specialist doesn't have a full rail.

I just put 2 mags through it (14 rounds), and it ran fine. No marks on the brass.
Link Posted: 2/14/2018 7:55:11 PM EDT
[#13]
from what i'm reading, it comes down to personal preference.
If the gun shot fine to begin with I personally probably wouldn't have noticed, or cared.
But, if I went down the same path as you and received what you did back I could honestly see both sides of it. I'd be inclined to shoot it and if it's 100% reliable shrug my shoulders and move on.

However, I think if you handle it right, you could talk to them on the phone and probably get them to help you out.

I had a buddy bought a used full rail operator and found out it had a scant fit thumb safety. Springfield repaired it for free.
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 1:28:31 AM EDT
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I wouldn't care. Shoot enough rounds through it the finish will be worn off anyway.
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Yup. My new Pro's Black T after 180 rounds.
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 2:05:52 AM EDT
[#15]
Wouldn’t concern me on a production gun.
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 2:28:58 AM EDT
[#16]
I'd hit it with a permanent marker.  
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 3:16:55 AM EDT
[#17]
I understand the anger. I sent a brand new Colt back and those fuckers had the gall to send it back with an idiot mark. I was lucky the gun was stainless and had a 400 grit brushed finish.

OP, your gun would would have looked like that after firing it anyway. It might have taken several hundred rounds, but it would have gotten there.
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 8:55:01 AM EDT
[#18]
Thanks all for the input, I really appreciate it.

As I said, the gun runs 100% before and after the repair. I am very happy with the gun overall.

On a side note, I did check out a friends 70's era Gold Cup, and as you guys said, his breach-face was silver too, even though the rest of the slide still had its nice, deep bluing.
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 11:55:12 AM EDT
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Hey at least it's better then sti cs., they didn't fit the safety on my guardian right.  Chewed up interior of frame in 150 rds, no problem they say.  I send it back to them, it sits there for 1.5weeks before they even look at it.  Then they have to send it out to be cerakoted, really surprised they can't do that in house considering that's their main finish now.  They tell me it takes up to 2 weeks to cerakote.  Bull, I've had items cerakoted and picked up 3 hrs after drop off.  Looks like they get to have my pistol 4x longer then I've had it, lol.
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 12:24:39 PM EDT
[#20]
Looks fine, it's not like it's built to a semi-custom level.
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 1:56:59 PM EDT
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Thanks all for the input, I really appreciate it.

As I said, the gun runs 100% before and after the repair. I am very happy with the gun overall.

On a side note, I did check out a friends 70's era Gold Cup, and as you guys said, his breach-face was silver too, even though the rest of the slide still had its nice, deep bluing.
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It's going to wear in there anyways..  They just did it for you.  

I wouldn't have a problem with it.  How do you like it otherwise?
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 4:34:15 PM EDT
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It's going to wear in there anyways..  They just did it for you.  

I wouldn't have a problem with it.  How do you like it otherwise?
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Love the pistol. The only issue I have is user error. Been shooting left with it, but coming from shooting fantastic-plastic, I am thinking my trigger finger position is "pushing" the pistol.
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 5:04:27 PM EDT
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Whoa.  You're like the opposite of the rest of the world.  Most of us shoot polymer pistols left but are spot on with a 1911.  At least in my experience.  LOL.

Just goes to show everyone is different.  
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 9:03:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/15/2018 11:57:56 PM EDT
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Does anyone think that the reason that everyone says that Springfield has great customer service is because a LOT of people send their guns back?
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 12:07:32 AM EDT
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Does anyone think that the reason that everyone says that Springfield has great customer service is because a LOT of people send their guns back?
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I don't think it's why they have good service, but it is definitely why they have a good reputation.  Their production 1911s ain't never been too hot and they usually require some attention.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 12:57:34 AM EDT
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Does anyone think that the reason that everyone says that Springfield has great customer service is because a LOT of people send their guns back?
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I personally own 3 RO's, 2 Loaded models, 1 GI, 1 XD, and a M1A NM. I have never sent one back.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 9:18:16 AM EDT
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Whoa.  You're like the opposite of the rest of the world.  Most of us shoot polymer pistols left but are spot on with a 1911.  At least in my experience.  LOL.

Just goes to show everyone is different.  
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My first center-fire pistol was a Range Officer when they first came out. I shot and carried that for a while, but eventually went to the smaller, lighter plastic pistols and sold the RO to help fund an engagement ring for my now-wife. Since funds opened up, I ordered the Full Rail TRP, one of my "grail guns"

when shooting this gun, I have been more conscious of "using the first finger pad", and trying to be more "correct" in my shooting. I am wondering if I need to put more of my finger through. The picture below is what I think I am doing.

Link Posted: 2/17/2018 6:14:32 PM EDT
[#29]
That finger pad bullshit is a popular picture but is not based on anything.

Put your finger where you need to to get rounds where you want 'em.
Link Posted: 2/18/2018 8:42:07 PM EDT
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Plus the picture seems to indicate if you change the location of the trigger on your finger, it means your gripping the pistol completely differently.  Which I don't think has to be the case.

I'm no expert pistol shooter and I'm not entirely sure it really matters where your finger is, as long as your sights are lined up.  Plus there I think there is some truth to there is a lot in how secure the gun is, in your hands regardless of what you're doing to the trigger.  But maybe it's a combo of all of that.

Anyways....  I always shoot my HiPower and when I had 1911's, straighter than polymer guns.  My guess it's got more to do with the trigger pull than anything.  Possibly recoil management too.  I shoot a 1911 with the first picture.  But I shoot my Hipower more like closer to the first joint.  I think.
Link Posted: 2/19/2018 8:48:11 AM EDT
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You should probably stay away from my AutoMag thread.  
Link Posted: 2/19/2018 12:50:16 PM EDT
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Did I make a wrong turn and end up in the High Point discussion forum?
Link Posted: 2/20/2018 4:19:28 AM EDT
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Twenty rounds and back to Springfield Armory for a burr?  What was the turnaround time?  Ten minutes with a needle file or stone removes the burr plus saves the finish.

I ran 500 rounds thru my Les Baer pistols; if the gun shot, I shot it a lot.  A scuffed piece of brass wasn’t going to keep me from an afternoon of fanning the trigger.  I’ve never needed to send a Baer back for warranty repairs.

Get the Tactical Carry Package that removes all sharp edges next time.
Link Posted: 2/20/2018 9:18:03 AM EDT
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Twenty rounds and back to Springfield Armory for a burr?  What was the turnaround time?  Ten minutes with a needle file or stone removes the burr plus saves the finish.

I ran 500 rounds thru my Les Baer pistols; if the gun shot, I shot it a lot.  A scuffed piece of brass wasn’t going to keep me from an afternoon of fanning the trigger.  I’ve never needed to send a Baer back for warranty repairs.

Get the Tactical Carry Package that removes all sharp edges next time.
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I think it was about 4 weeks, from the time I sent it, to the time it was back in my hands.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 1:46:25 AM EDT
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I wouldn't care. Shoot enough rounds through it the finish will be worn off anyway.
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Exactly, unless you are one of them dudes who rarely shoot and just post up pics of their gear.  It's in a spot that will wear anyways

I have a 5k 2011 that has bare metal from my holster, small knicks and scratches.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 8:51:44 AM EDT
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Looks good.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:44:11 PM EDT
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The front of the slide on my carry pisto has worn off most of the bluing from years of use.

With a Kydex holster it is not wearing very much further.

It has been through tens of thousands of draws and presentation in practice.

1,500+ in one week at Gunsite.

The swelling in my hand finally went down the middle of the next week.

I would have hit it with a little finer file or even some 400 grit wet-or-dry on a Popsicle stick.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 11:53:36 PM EDT
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The finish is gonna wear off the breach face in the first couple hundred rounds.

Don’t worry about it.

After a couple years of wear you can send it off for Nitride
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