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Posted: 9/15/2016 5:09:24 PM EDT
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People don't want .40 guns because the ammo is a couple bucks more expensive per box, the recoil hurts their delicate wrists, and you lose a couple of rounds capacity.
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Posted: 9/15/2016 5:22:04 PM EDT
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Buy da fotays!
Was much easier to find ammo after Sandy Hook. HK fotay is best fotay. ETA: oops, just saw this wasn't GD. OP, I like .40 out of USPc. I've shot a Glock 23 and like it too, and it didn't grenade in my hand. Ammo is marginally more expensive, and can be a little "snappier", but proper recoil management helps tremendously. 9mm projectiles have advanced tremendously since the intro of .40, so a lot of people are moving in that direction. I saw a big increase in 9x19 sales over .40 once the federal magazine ban was lifted. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 5:32:29 PM EDT
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Pick up a trade in , good prices ammo is always available and it will do the job just fine.
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Posted: 9/15/2016 5:33:20 PM EDT
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People don't want .40 guns because the ammo is a couple bucks more expensive per box, the recoil hurts their delicate wrists, and you lose a couple of rounds capacity. This. Their loss is my gain. A lot of excellent police trade ins out there that softens up the 40 market. Good deals abound. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 5:39:43 PM EDT
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I prefer 9mm pistols over 40's; however, I own both because history has proven sometimes you can't find ammo for one. Yea recoil is a little more, and capacity a little less, but 40's do have their uses.
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Posted: 9/15/2016 5:54:04 PM EDT
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I gave up on forty. It's gotten me killed on the streets three times...
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Posted: 9/15/2016 5:55:12 PM EDT
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Right now the supply of guns chambered in .40 seems to be exceeding demand and driving the price down. Also you're probably seeing a lot of LEO trade-ins which are typically less expensive because of the perception that they are more used than your typical used gun.
I really like .40. I'm one of those idiots that you hear about in GD that thinks a little extra bullet weight at the same speed makes a bigger difference on the receiving end than the giving end. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 6:28:14 PM EDT
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It's a good round, but much less desirable in today's market.
I'm not going to get into ballistics here, as that horse has been beaten to death. Lots of good deals to be had if your not invested in another caliber. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 6:37:17 PM EDT
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I'm not invested in another caliber... that is why the help with input
 I wouldn't mind a nice Sig 226 in 40....
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:14:27 PM EDT
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I like .40 Glocks. I buy a 9mm conversion barrel and 9mm mag for them. Two calibers, one pistol.
Works flawlessly for me. Dave N |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:25:57 PM EDT
[#11]
.40 Glocks. rock.
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:35:15 PM EDT
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I'd love to get my hands on a good deal for a used M&P .40 pro.
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Posted: 9/15/2016 7:42:58 PM EDT
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The FBI and accomplices are dumping the .40. This may explain some of this. The ammo for range fodder is slightly higher, and reloading components were high several years ago, not sure about now, when you were hard pressed to find a .40, in Glock anyway.
It is a good round. A bit snappy to some, but I like it as well as most of the folks I know. Everyone has their favorites, and .40 is one of mine. YMMV |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 8:13:42 PM EDT
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People don't want .40 guns because the ammo is a couple bucks more expensive per box, the recoil hurts their delicate wrists, and you lose a couple of rounds capacity. And the FBI switched back to 9mm so they want to follow.... Bunch of pansies!
I have both but carry .40. I will continue to carry .40 until they stop making it. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 9:48:53 PM EDT
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I prefer 9mm pistols over 40's; however, I own both because history has proven sometimes you can't find ammo for one. Yea recoil is a little more, and capacity a little less, but 40's do have their uses. This sums it up quite nicely. |
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Posted: 9/15/2016 9:54:46 PM EDT
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I had only 40 for a long time. The. Traded them all for 9. 40 guns just dont shoot as nice as the 9mm version, modern 9 ammo has nearly tge same performance, few extra rounds. Alot of agencies are going back to 9 from 40. If you think its dead now just wait till mag capacity bans hit and you might as well then go 45acp.
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Posted: 9/15/2016 10:56:16 PM EDT
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Got a few 10mm Kurz pistols hardly shoot them because of the volume I shoot but it is just another caliber available and some HELLA good deals exist for them.
G22/23 P226/229 and M&P 40 pistols can be had for steal of prices right now. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 12:25:06 AM EDT
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And the FBI switched back to 9mm so they want to follow.... Bunch of pansies!
I have both but carry .40. I will continue to carry .40 until they stop making it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People don't want .40 guns because the ammo is a couple bucks more expensive per box, the recoil hurts their delicate wrists, and you lose a couple of rounds capacity. And the FBI switched back to 9mm so they want to follow.... Bunch of pansies!
I have both but carry .40. I will continue to carry .40 until they stop making it. Just about every .40 thread that comes up has people complaining about the "sharp recoil." |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 12:38:25 AM EDT
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Just about every .40 thread that comes up has people complaining about the "sharp recoil." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People don't want .40 guns because the ammo is a couple bucks more expensive per box, the recoil hurts their delicate wrists, and you lose a couple of rounds capacity. And the FBI switched back to 9mm so they want to follow.... Bunch of pansies!
I have both but carry .40. I will continue to carry .40 until they stop making it. Just about every .40 thread that comes up has people complaining about the "sharp recoil." It's fatiguing to most shooters. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 6:31:04 AM EDT
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Right now the supply of guns chambered in .40 seems to be exceeding demand and driving the price down. Also you're probably seeing a lot of LEO trade-ins which are typically less expensive because of the perception that they are more used than your typical used gun. I really like .40. I'm one of those idiots that you hear about in GD that thinks a little extra bullet weight at the same speed makes a bigger difference on the receiving end than the giving end. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 6:37:37 AM EDT
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Ended up buy two .40's after seeing arfcoms butthurt over the caliber. Bought a G27 to match my G26, and a G23. Have only shop maybe 150 rounds through the two of them combined but they are fun to shoot just like every other caliber.
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Posted: 9/16/2016 7:06:57 AM EDT
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The FBI and accomplices are dumping the .40. This may explain some of this. The ammo for range fodder is slightly higher, and reloading components were high several years ago, not sure about now, when you were hard pressed to find a .40, in Glock anyway.It is a good round. A bit snappy to some, but I like it as well as most of the folks I know. Everyone has their favorites, and .40 is one of mine. YMMV The forty was invented so that the FBI could save face after they got their asses handed to them in the Miami Shootout of '86. The caliber works, but for me the .45 is better if I want bigger and the 9mm is fine for general use. If anyone wants to change my mind I may become a fan if you give me a .40 Glock and a case of ammo. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 10:06:30 AM EDT
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I like .40 for carry.
I also carry 9mm, .45 acp, and .38 special. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 10:19:21 AM EDT
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Just about every .40 thread that comes up has people complaining about the "sharp recoil." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People don't want .40 guns because the ammo is a couple bucks more expensive per box, the recoil hurts their delicate wrists, and you lose a couple of rounds capacity. And the FBI switched back to 9mm so they want to follow.... Bunch of pansies!
I have both but carry .40. I will continue to carry .40 until they stop making it. Just about every .40 thread that comes up has people complaining about the "sharp recoil." And the falsehood that .40 S&W is a "high pressure round" when it operates at the same chamber pressure as 9mm and LESS pressure than 9mm +P. And that the laws of physics, in particular, the law of momentum, don't apply when comparing 9mm and .40 S&W. And disregarding that the FBI went to 9mm due to training and quailification issues because of girlie agents with small, weak hands, rather than any deficiency displayed by the cartridge itself. And "the fact" that ".40 S&W beats guns to death" although that only applied to pistols which were merely 9mm guns converted to .40, rather than those designed from the ground up for .40 S&W. And that 16 rounds of .40 in the gun isn't enough, whereas 8 rounds of .45 ACP is plenty. And that .40 is short and weak because "it's too snappy and has too much recoil". And..........ad nausium. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 10:54:55 AM EDT
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A 40 should be in everyone's arsenal for logistical purposes.
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Posted: 9/16/2016 11:00:06 AM EDT
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I own handguns is all three of the common auto pistol cartridges, 9mm, 40S&W, and 45ACP, and the only ones that are semi-auto are some of my 40S&Ws.
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Posted: 9/16/2016 12:47:07 PM EDT
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It's a good time to be a .40 owner. I traded my last non .40 to complete my line up of .40s. I reload and .40 bullets are cheap, .40 brass is dirt cheap even though I have yet to pay for any. Classic Sigs are under $500 Yeah, right now is very good to be a .40 owner....
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Posted: 9/16/2016 12:52:26 PM EDT
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Wish they would make 15 round beretta mags
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Posted: 9/16/2016 10:44:54 PM EDT
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In a full sized double stack it's the bees knees.
If you're shooting several hundred rounds at a time it'll wear on you. For one or two it's no big deal. Lots of newer shooters trade them in and a lot of PD's will as well as they move on to other things. Ammo prices naturally fall right between 9mm and 45. |
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Posted: 9/17/2016 4:14:34 PM EDT
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I only own one 40. Most ofy guns are 9mm glocks or 45 1911s. I recently was concidering a glock 22 locally but I checked ammo prices, on tula it gos per 50: 9mm 9.95, 45acp 15.95 and 40 14.95. I decided to not buy another 40. My 40 has a lwd 9mm conversion barrel. IMO there's nothing "wrong" with 40, but I am already set up to feed 9s and 45s. If you're just getting into guns and looking at 40s, no problem.
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Posted: 9/17/2016 5:12:51 PM EDT
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It's because girly boys can't handle the recoil, though
every female officer qualifies with a .40 H&K USP every year in my old Dept. That's maybe 2,000 females out of 6,000 officers total |
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Posted: 9/17/2016 5:24:09 PM EDT
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I may pick up a .40 for shooting major some day.
4 points for a C definitely couldn't hurt my scores  .
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Posted: 9/17/2016 7:42:05 PM EDT
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Actually just picked up 2 new 40s this week. SIG P320 and a Para P16-40 Limited.
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Posted: 9/17/2016 8:47:30 PM EDT
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If recoil is defined only as energy directed straight back toward me, then they're all pretty much the same to me.
If it includes muzzle flip (guess that's what people mean when they say .40 is "snappy"?), my order of preference is - 9mm - 10mm - .45 - .40 Depends on the gun, too (duh), but that's my experience. Hadn't had a .40 for awhile, but saw a consignment Taurus 24/7 G2 in .40 at my LGS on sale for $169 that, inside and out, looked as though it had never been fired. Its been great (fortunately!), and feels like shooting a 9mm. |
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Posted: 9/17/2016 10:26:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/17/2016 10:48:01 PM EDT
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Ditched .40 long ago for my defensive guns.
That said, my most expensive gun is chambered in .40. Because, USPSA rules demand that caliber, or above, to make major power factor in Limited division. 
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Posted: 9/17/2016 11:01:06 PM EDT
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Metrosexuals and ARFCOM hates it. 
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Posted: 9/17/2016 11:18:45 PM EDT
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It''s a badass round. Any claim to the contrary is bullshit.
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Posted: 9/18/2016 1:00:10 AM EDT
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Because police departments have been dumping .40 Short & Weak guns left and right.
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Posted: 9/18/2016 6:20:54 AM EDT
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If you are not a reloader then I get the ammo availability point; other than that I see no reason to pick a 40 over a 9 unless you need a gun to make major. There are several reasons so many are changing. At this time they really don't offer anything extra.
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Posted: 9/18/2016 6:43:29 AM EDT
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It''s a badass round. Any claim to the contrary is bullshit. Not to mention the .40 180 grain bullet at 1000fps has been a respected fighting round for a looong time in the .38-40 |
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Posted: 9/18/2016 10:45:38 AM EDT
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.40S&W was the only thing on the shelves last time all the neckbeards had to go hoard all the ammo, so it has that going for it.
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Posted: 9/18/2016 12:55:32 PM EDT
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Wish they would make 15 round beretta mags Ask, and ye shall receive. https://www.44mag.com/product/mec_gar_beretta_96_optimum_15/beretta_magazines My model 96 is our house gun because my 5'2" wife can shoot it well. My other .40 is an XD subcompact that shoots a lot softer than I thought it would. |
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Posted: 9/18/2016 1:00:44 PM EDT
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Ask, and ye shall receive. https://www.44mag.com/product/mec_gar_beretta_96_optimum_15/beretta_magazines My model 96 is our house gun because my 5'2" wife can shoot it well. My other .40 is an XD subcompact that shoots a lot softer than I thought it would. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wish they would make 15 round beretta mags Ask, and ye shall receive. https://www.44mag.com/product/mec_gar_beretta_96_optimum_15/beretta_magazines My model 96 is our house gun because my 5'2" wife can shoot it well. My other .40 is an XD subcompact that shoots a lot softer than I thought it would. Yea, forgot about them. whish they were the same size as the 13 rd ones. It just seems they should fit |
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Posted: 9/18/2016 1:22:48 PM EDT
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Nothing wrong with .40 cal, out of all my Glocks my G23 is my most favorite. I've probably got more .40 cal rounds stored than .380,9mm, and .45.
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Posted: 9/18/2016 4:47:57 PM EDT
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A 40 should be in everyone's arsenal for logistical purposes. That would be my only reason. As others have mentioned several times, 40 was the last thing left on shelves in the last panic. |
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Posted: 9/18/2016 5:20:26 PM EDT
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That would be my only reason. As others have mentioned several times, 40 was the last thing left on shelves in the last panic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A 40 should be in everyone's arsenal for logistical purposes. That would be my only reason. As others have mentioned several times, 40 was the last thing left on shelves in the last panic. I have 11,000 rounds of 9MM. Most of it bought for $0.18-$0.20. I'll be OK. |
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Posted: 9/18/2016 5:55:56 PM EDT
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I have 11,000 rounds of 9MM. Most of it bought for $0.18-$0.20. I'll be OK. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A 40 should be in everyone's arsenal for logistical purposes. That would be my only reason. As others have mentioned several times, 40 was the last thing left on shelves in the last panic. I have 11,000 rounds of 9MM. Most of it bought for $0.18-$0.20. I'll be OK. So do I. Thats like 2 years for me with no resuply. Im still glad to have a .40. Psa had blazer brass for .20cpr a couple months ago and mass ammo had hsts for $18 per box. Good deals by 9mm standards anyways. If a panic ensues and because everyone is dumping .40s I can still shoot without eating into my stores. |
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Posted: 9/18/2016 6:38:06 PM EDT
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A 40 should be in everyone's arsenal for logistical purposes. |
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Posted: 9/18/2016 6:56:59 PM EDT
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So do I. Thats like 2 years for me with no resuply. Im still glad to have a .40. Psa had blazer brass for .20cpr a couple months ago and mass ammo had hsts for $18 per box. Good deals by 9mm standards anyways. If a panic ensues and because everyone is dumping .40s I can still shoot without eating into my stores. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A 40 should be in everyone's arsenal for logistical purposes. That would be my only reason. As others have mentioned several times, 40 was the last thing left on shelves in the last panic. I have 11,000 rounds of 9MM. Most of it bought for $0.18-$0.20. I'll be OK. So do I. Thats like 2 years for me with no resuply. Im still glad to have a .40. Psa had blazer brass for .20cpr a couple months ago and mass ammo had hsts for $18 per box. Good deals by 9mm standards anyways. If a panic ensues and because everyone is dumping .40s I can still shoot without eating into my stores. Damn guys... I haven't been able to afford that much! Now that I'm reloading pistol ammo, I need to get to it! I like .40. I can handle the "snap" without much effort. That said, I still prefer 9. I probably wouldn't have .40 at all anymore if it weren't for the fact that my first handgun is an HK USPc in .40. It's my first handgun, my dad "saved" (another story) it for me, and it has sentimental value. |
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