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Posted: 3/24/2016 3:25:28 PM EDT
I originally made this post looking for info on what parts I would need to build a Glock from one of the new Polymer80 frames, and now that (I think) I've gotten the info I was looking for I thought I'd turn this into more of a "how to" thread for others who are looking to do the same.
Here's a parts diagram on their website, along with links to a few parts vendors: Parts Diagram for the S150 80% Polymer Pistol Frame And a detailed writeup on how to disassemble/assemble a Glock: Glock disassembly and how to clean a Glock I'll update the first reply with the progress of my build and pictures of each step. Original post: Some friends and I (perhaps foolishly) pre-ordered a few 80% Glock frames from Polymer80, and none of us really have a clue what we're doing as far as buying parts. I did stumble onto a thread that had this list in one of the replies: Frame Slide Barrel Slide Cover Plunger Spring Extractor Plunger Extractor Spacer Sleeve Channel Liner Firing Pin Safety Firing Pin Spring Spring Cups Firing Pin Spring Firing Pin Recoil Spring Rear Sight Front Sight Locking Block Locking Block Pin Magazine Catch Magazine Catch Spring Connector Trigger Trigger Spring Trigger Housing Pin Trigger Pin Trigger Housing Slide Stop Slide Lock Slide Lock Spring Magazine Could someone enlighten me as to whether or not these are all the parts we'll need? Polymer80's website says the frames will come with locking blocks, but I'm not sure if that includes the locking block pin or not. I've also found a few sites that sell "complete" slides, but I'm not sure which of the other parts are included with those. Same with trigger assemblies. Thanks in advance for any and all help! |
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Glockmiester has receiver and slide parts kits less the receiver slide and barrel, that should make it simple enough.
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Do you have the frame in your possession now? Post a LOT of pics.
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Glockmiester has receiver and slide parts kits less the receiver slide and barrel, that should make it simple enough. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Glockmiester has receiver and slide parts kits less the receiver slide and barrel, that should make it simple enough. I'll check them out, thanks for the tip! Quoted:
Do you have the frame in your possession now? Post a LOT of pics. Not yet, but according to their website they have one final tweak to make before it's ready to ship. They're saying early April. I'll post pics as soon as I get it! |
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You are going to end up spending more than a good used police trade glock costs when all is said and done,not sure I get the point of doing this?
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Because it's an 80% gun. Because you can. Because 'Murcia View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You are going to end up spending more than a good used police trade glock costs when all is said and done,not sure I get the point of doing this? Because it's an 80% gun. Because you can. Because 'Murcia What he said! Plus I probably won't be going with all stock parts. |
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Lots of places sell complete lower parts kits for Glock. From there you can buy either a complete slide assembly or buy a stripped slide and a complete slide kit. It might be cheaper buying a full kit and subbing in the parts you want vs buying each individual roll pin, spring, and piece.
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Plenty of complete lower parts kits on ebay. They would probably save a significant amount of time finding all of the individual parts.
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Lots of places sell complete lower parts kits for Glock. From there you can buy either a complete slide assembly or buy a stripped slide and a complete slide kit. It might be cheaper buying a full kit and subbing in the parts you want vs buying each individual roll pin, spring, and piece. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Lots of places sell complete lower parts kits for Glock. From there you can buy either a complete slide assembly or buy a stripped slide and a complete slide kit. It might be cheaper buying a full kit and subbing in the parts you want vs buying each individual roll pin, spring, and piece. Quoted:
Plenty of complete lower parts kits on ebay. They would probably save a significant amount of time finding all of the individual parts. I will definitely be looking into this. I already plan on spending more than I would on a factory Glock, but if I can minimize the difference that'd be swell. |
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They have a link on polymer 80's site for everything you need to finish the job
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They have a link on polymer 80's site for everything you need to finish the job View Quote Yeah lol I just saw that yesterday. Of course I'd find it after making this post. I guess I can change the original post and make this more of an informative thread for others who are looking. |
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80% frames have finally reached the production stage, and shipping starts this week!
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Any updates? I'm really interested in seeing the frame. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Nothing yet, but I'll post pics as soon as they show up. Quoted:
OP is going to be an "Alpha" tester on these 80% frames. Good luck OP. Thanks! I really hope I don't butcher this... |
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I don't understand the logic of 80% lowers. You spend good money and time machining a lower that you can't pass on to anyone, and has to be surrendered upon your demise. That doesn't seem intelligent. Why waste good time and money on something you can buy and keep in the family forever?
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I don't understand the logic of 80% lowers. You spend good money and time machining a lower that you can't pass on to anyone, and has to be surrendered upon your demise. That doesn't seem intelligent. Why waste good time and money on something you can buy and keep in the family forever? View Quote Where do you get your (incorrect) information from? |
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I don't understand the logic of 80% lowers. You spend good money and time machining a lower that you can't pass on to anyone, and has to be surrendered upon your demise. That doesn't seem intelligent. Why waste good time and money on something you can buy and keep in the family forever? View Quote Well your understanding of the law is completely wrong, so I can see how you wouldn't understand the logic of an 80%. |
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For a lot of people it's the fun of building something yourself even if it's only a small part of the whole gun. One thing I personally like is the lack of roll marks and engraving on 80% guns; it makes them look cleaner.
As far as anonymity... don't count on it. The NSA records what websites you go to and your credit card transactions, as well as your YouTube viewing history while you're looking for guides on finishing it. It's not unbelievable that they would share that data with the ATF, who, should the day come, would use parallel construction to make an investigation against you for possessing it. The NSA did as much already with the DEA for drug cases. When it comes to these Glock 80%ers, the economics aren't there yet. There are a few companies making aftermarket Glock parts, but not in high enough volume to make a homemade Glock as reasonable as a homemade AR15 where you only pay about $10-$15 more for the 80% than you do for a complete receiver (assuming you have the tools to finish it already). My interest here is in seeing more options for 80% guns in general, and 80% handguns in particular. Right now the only choices on the 80% market are AR15, AR10, 10/22, 1911, a few Stens, the rare 22/45, and a fabled Rem700 that no one has ever actually seen. |
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You spend good money and time machining a lower that you can't pass on to anyone, and has to be surrendered upon your demise. View Quote This is COMPLETELY erroneous! The only way you are going to get into trouble with manufacturing "80%" receivers into firearms is if you do so with the intent of selling them. You can legally sell them if you have an 07 FFL and pay the ITAR yearly fee. |
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Mine is being shipped day 5.
The 80% route makes SOME sense if you get a cheapo police trade in (I got one for $320 shipped from a site, plus $20 FFL transfer). I am planning to use the slide, barrel, etc... from the police trade in G22 (with a LW 9mm conversion) on the 80% frame, plus I have all the lower parts I've bought already for the project. If it doesn't work out, I am only out what it costs for the frame and I have a 9mm/.40 capable G22 in decent shape and enough spare parts to keep me shooting that gun until rapture. If it does work out, I'm out whatever the parts cost is to rebuild the G22 frame with new parts and a .22LR conversion for a dedicated .22 trainer. |
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As far as anonymity... don't count on it. The NSA records what websites you go to and your credit card transactions, as well as your YouTube viewing history while you're looking for guides on finishing it. It's not unbelievable that they would share that data with the ATF, who, should the day come, would use parallel construction to make an investigation against you for possessing it. View Quote As far as they know, you could've sold it at a gun show for cash while it was still an 80%. Can't prove you didn't. |
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As far as they know, you could've sold it at a gun show for cash while it was still an 80%. Can't prove you didn't. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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As far as anonymity... don't count on it. The NSA records what websites you go to and your credit card transactions, as well as your YouTube viewing history while you're looking for guides on finishing it. It's not unbelievable that they would share that data with the ATF, who, should the day come, would use parallel construction to make an investigation against you for possessing it. As far as they know, you could've sold it at a gun show for cash while it was still an 80%. Can't prove you didn't. I've bought Glocks in private sales (and sold some in private sales) and there's no record of me doing so. Also I get a factory gun out of it vs some unknown hunk of plastic that I have to finish myself. I guess you're in IL so you don't have much of a choice, but in most of the country, it seems like way too much work for an inferior result. |
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I don't understand the logic of 80% lowers. You spend good money and time machining a lower that you can't pass on to anyone, and has to be surrendered upon your demise. That doesn't seem intelligent. Why waste good time and money on something you can buy and keep in the family forever? View Quote There's some irony in your UN and post. |
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There's some irony in your UN and post. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't understand the logic of 80% lowers. You spend good money and time machining a lower that you can't pass on to anyone, and has to be surrendered upon your demise. That doesn't seem intelligent. Why waste good time and money on something you can buy and keep in the family forever? There's some irony in your UN and post. LOL... I missed that. Good catch. |
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Quoted:I've bought Glocks in private sales (and sold some in private sales) and there's no record of me doing so. Also I get a factory gun out of it vs some unknown hunk of plastic that I have to finish myself. I guess you're in IL so you don't have much of a choice, but in most of the country, it seems like way too much work for an inferior result. View Quote I have too, but for all I know that guy could've saved my number and the gun could still be traced to me. |
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I have too, but for all I know that guy could've saved my number and the gun could still be traced to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:I've bought Glocks in private sales (and sold some in private sales) and there's no record of me doing so. Also I get a factory gun out of it vs some unknown hunk of plastic that I have to finish myself. I guess you're in IL so you don't have much of a choice, but in most of the country, it seems like way too much work for an inferior result. I have too, but for all I know that guy could've saved my number and the gun could still be traced to me. If you're that worried, there's any number of ways to get a temporary phone number that are free or very low cost. But if you're going to be paranoid, I'd worry more about using your credit card to buy an 80% frame. |
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NSA records won't be used in routine criminal convictions...
They need a subpoena to look at your bank records... and the gov. aren't going to waste their money going after someone making 80% receivers UNLESS this is a guy making it, and then immediately giving it to others who used it in the commission of a crime. Actually chances are it won't be the ATF but the local police doing the investigation and arresting, and they won't have access to NSA records either. Just think about how much intelligence would be compromised if they use NSA records in a court case (where it is public). It costs the government at least a million dollar to investigate, try, and convict someone. For every dollar you spend on legal defense the gov. is spending at least 30 dollars, not to mention the 50,000 a year the gov. must spend to lock you up. They may seem like they have unlimited resources but they don't. When resources are finite they are going to prioritize their police resource. If you're really paranoid, do everything in cash or postal money order, and have the stuff delivered to some abandoned place. |
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Pics?
We've got three threads about these Specter frames in this subforum and not a single pic. |
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I don't understand the logic of 80% lowers. You spend good money and time machining a lower that you can't pass on to anyone, and has to be surrendered upon your demise. That doesn't seem intelligent. Why waste good time and money on something you can buy and keep in the family forever? View Quote Holy misinformed know it all Batman. You may want to do a little more research. Your information is slightly off, OK completely and totally off in every way. See the M1919A7 my little boy is shooting in my avatar? Built from an 80% Semi receiver and internals modified appropriately. Completely legal for me to sell this gun to anyone who can legally own a firearm and completely legal for me to pass down to my children. |
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Got a shipping notification yesterday. Should be here by the 2nd!
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so has anybody taken the time to comprise a parts list of THE aftermarket parts needed to complete one of these?
I'm not looking for a list of the most expensive parts per se, but a list of the most gun for the $$ spent and mine's most likely going to be set up as a .40S&W with a .22LR conversion, but haven't totally ruled out the 357Sig |
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My cost breakdown:
9mm G17 slide from Ebay: around 350-400 dollars (complete slide with barrel and everything) Glock frame part kit http://www.glockmeister.com/Complete-Receiver-Replacement-Parts-Kit-For-3-Pin-G17/productinfo/G17RECKIT3/ Unfortunately they don't make ones without locking block... So total cost minus frame seems to be around 500 or so. More expensive than a glock but you know... ghost gun and all. |
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Quoted: As far as anonymity... don't count on it. The NSA records what websites you go to and your credit card transactions, as well as your YouTube viewing history while you're looking for guides on finishing it. It's not unbelievable that they would share that data with the ATF, who, should the day come, would use parallel construction to make an investigation against you for possessing it. The NSA did as much already with the DEA for drug cases. View Quote Lol loosen you tinfoil there Sparky. Unless you are involved with a terrorist group/organization, organization who is planning seditious acts, or an owner of a foreign corporation you aren't being spied on by the NSA. USSID 18 /SP0018 covers this very clearly. If you don't trust the link from a gov entity you can look at the same document on the ACLU website. OP keep us updated on your build. I almost bought into these frames but held off to see how the first release holds up. |
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So total cost minus frame seems to be around 500 or so. More expensive than a glock but you know... ghost gun and all. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
So total cost minus frame seems to be around 500 or so. More expensive than a glock but you know... ghost gun and all. Yeah that's why I don't think there's really a point unless you're going for mostly upgraded parts. Quoted:
OP keep us updated on your build. I almost bought into these frames but held off to see how the first release holds up. Will do! I was gonna wait too, but I figured hey someone's gotta do it! |
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Also, I read somewhere on arf that Glock sells complete slides directly if you call them to order it. This could be an economical way to put together a longslide gun, depending on the exact pricing.
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Day 47. Pics? Also, I read somewhere on arf that Glock sells complete slides directly if you call them to order it. This could be an economical way to put together a longslide gun, depending on the exact pricing. View Quote Sorry, a combination of FedEx having stupid policies and my buddy's landlord being a moron held up the package for a bit. Should be here by the end of the week. I'll see if I can find any info on getting slides straight from Glock. Thanks for the tip! |
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Haven't researched these too much but will probably pick one up to play with. Wonder if the grip angle is Glock like or 1911 like.
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It is interesting that there are no new posts on their Facebook page after they asked for range reports. One has to wonder that there must be issues?
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It is interesting that there are no new posts on their Facebook page after they asked for range reports. One has to wonder that there must be issues? View Quote I didn't see any range reports, but there were plenty of pictures of user submissions after that post. Still, range reports would be nice. |
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My order will be shipped on day 3. View Quote Still nothing. I ordered end of January. Here is latest e-mail: We have 2200 pre-orders left, and over 4000 locking blocks scheduled to arrive over the next 2 weeks. We are committed to get as many packages out as possible and hope to have the bulk of the pre-orders completed in 2 weeks, with the latest batch (those ordered end of March/begining of April) potentially shipped on week 3. Eta Got my notice 87 seconds ago (5/12/16 1245). I am day 3 |
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For anyone that has one, can you post detailed picks? This thread lacks pics !
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