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Posted: 10/31/2003 6:53:49 AM EDT
[#1]
So I guess you will be extending your stay with us????
Welcome to the Board of Refugees......pull up a chair and be part of the family. KF |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 6:57:47 AM EDT
[#2]
Paranoia runs deep.
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Posted: 10/31/2003 7:10:31 AM EDT
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That's what I get for relaying you're message (krinkfreak)to Redstar that you were connected with ORF when he was going to have them build his gun for him after he recovered the parts from some chicken coop in the midwest. He then posted on the board that he was going to have to build it himself. Oh well, I guess the final straw was posting the pic from here of you at ORF getting that AK-74. Who is az-ar anyway. It looked like he got banned pretty fast there, 2 months 17 posts.
I thought they could tell if you had more than one account by your IP? Obviously they are confused as he ain't me and I am not him... |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 7:13:36 AM EDT
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Exactly why I will keep my shit low and close to the ground for a while.
It doesn't cease to amaze me! Welcome refugee! |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 7:38:29 AM EDT
[#5]
Sorry, will see if I can help at all
IM inbound |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 7:45:20 AM EDT
[#6]
That's what happens when monkeys are behind the keyboard.
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Posted: 10/31/2003 8:01:13 AM EDT
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All i hear over there is that they almost never ban anyone, which i am finding harder to believe these days.
is there a list of people who got banned or does someone have a good memory of them? Just curious about what the real head count is. |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 8:05:25 AM EDT
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Damn, that's how they repay you for providing them with information. I wish I could have seen that thread! Too funny!! Guys, it's a discussion board to help others acquire AKs !!! It's not a way of life....It's not a war....It's not about making someone's pockets fat. KF |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 8:13:28 AM EDT
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They'll never figure out what my other account name is.
BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! 
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Posted: 10/31/2003 9:42:28 AM EDT
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Moderators have the ability to see "logged" IP Addresses everytime you post a message. You can take that IP Address, and do a reverse lookup at this website: www.freeality.com/finde.htm Here....do this.....Hit your "start" button, arrow up to "run" and then type in CMD. This will take you to your DOS prompt. Type IPCONFIG and you will see what IP Address you currently have assigned to your PC. Take that IP Address and go to the website above, arrow down to the third block and look for: EONS "Reverse IP Address" Enter your IP Address there....then SEARCH. Your location/address will come up in the Search Results like this: Search results for: 4.4.24.28 OrgName: Genuity OrgID: GNTY Address: Genuity Address: 225 Presidential Way City: Woburn StateProv: MA PostalCode: 01888 Country: US Once you have the address, go to: www.mapquest.com and type in the address. It will then give you a map of the area of their Internet Service Provider, etc.  or Search results for: 66.42.178.106 OrgName: Fuse Internet Access OrgID: FIAI Address: 209 W. Seventh St. Address: MS 121-550 City: Cincinnati StateProv: OH PostalCode: 45202 Country: US  or Search results for: 170.248.94.221 OrgName: Accenture OrgID: ACCENT-10 Address: 1950 Stemmons Freeway, Suite 5002 City: Dallas StateProv: TX PostalCode: 75207 Country: US  So what Admins and Moderators do is check all the posts you made and look for identical "IP Logged" posts by other members. If they see a match, they figure you are someone else..... It's not always correct, but most of the time it is... KF |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 11:28:45 AM EDT
[#11]
mak and AZ-AR amy live real close to each other and use the same ISP.
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Posted: 10/31/2003 11:36:17 AM EDT
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Yep, we're both in Tucson.
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Posted: 10/31/2003 11:44:59 AM EDT
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That's probably what got them. Admins and Moderators have to very careful, and screen all the data before they make a move to ban someone....
KF |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 11:47:30 AM EDT
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Ban em' all and let God sort em' out!
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Posted: 10/31/2003 11:50:25 AM EDT
[#15]
DHCP also means that at one time or another, you may both ahve had the same IP address (buth not at the same time)
You almost assuredly do not have static IP's BTW, my IP is static and is 192.168.1.2! Trace that! 
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Posted: 10/31/2003 11:55:30 AM EDT
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Search results for: 192.168.1.2
OrgName: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority OrgID: IANA Address: 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330 City: Marina del Rey StateProv: CA PostalCode: 90292-6695 Country: US |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 11:57:11 AM EDT
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IMed 308 over there telling him the situation.
Looks like milkslug won't last more than 1 post over there. It was such a cool name too. 
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Posted: 10/31/2003 11:57:49 AM EDT
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Mine's better, 127.0.0.1 ... you can even ping it. |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 11:57:54 AM EDT
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Idid a search on my puter at work and guess what I got? ip 192.168.1.52 OrgName: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority OrgID: IANA Address: 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330 City: Marina del Rey StateProv: CA PostalCode: 90292-6695 Country: US |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 11:59:50 AM EDT
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It's still RFC1918 space. |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 12:02:52 PM EDT
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Hey krinkfreak, I'm two states away from you. How can we have the same IP?
I'm on a BellSouth DSL connection. |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 2:20:50 PM EDT
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192.xxx.xxx.xxx
This is a non-routable IP behind a firewall. Network Address Translation You might see my router as it has a public IP but not what's behind it. Protects against just about any hacker short of a Trojan.
People think you are fruitloops back around here. |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 2:37:50 PM EDT
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bwahahahahahaha!
the dorknutz have gone even more nutz! they are asking mods to resign. and mods are resigning...then after resigning the other mods and staph are ganging up on them and asking to ban them!!!!! wtf??? the threats of more bannings and control are hysterical! the witch hunt has begun! and redstar actually stuck up for one of them! methinks even ol' redstar is getting pissed at the morons and hyenas! you should read this crap! they kind of want redstar to tone down his spewing and treat people nicer! bwahahahahaha! hey! maybe if sees how dorky those dudes really are, we can offer him a job over here! hell, once he sees what freedom is really like, he may turn out to be an 'ok' guy! redstar actually sounds kinda frustrated with the dweebmins in his posts! whoulda thunk it!?!?! man! it just gets weirder and weirder! mak, don't feel bad. the implosion is a funny thing to view from the inside, yet it's all so sad and pathetic at the same time. once again, i find myself in disbelief that grown men write stuff like that! absolutely amazing! and ar15com is being made out to be the boogieman? hilarious! i gotta send ed a cd of this crap...he'll be laughing too hard to go deer hunting this season! |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 6:06:16 PM EDT
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I think that Duthorn and his pack of jackals should just ban all of their members, it would save everyone time and trouble.
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Posted: 10/31/2003 6:13:11 PM EDT
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Idid a search on my puter at work and guess what I got?
ip 192.168.1.52 OrgName: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority OrgID: IANA Address: 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330 City: Marina del Rey StateProv: CA PostalCode: 90292-6695 Country: US This is also one that allot of spamers use. |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 6:22:54 PM EDT
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No it is not. IANA assigns ranges of IP address. 192.blah.blah.blah is non-routable and cannot be reached on the internet. It is internal and behind a router. The router does network address translation, I.E. Talk to the hand. It has a publicly assigned IP from a pool of IP's assigned to a public ISP ! It was a trick question.
I was hoping at we had at least one network admin or engineer on board. They would have caught that one easily. |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 6:26:47 PM EDT
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To ban someone for not agreeing with the Administration is one thing.
But to change the context of ones post (or profile) is an entirely different thing (censorship at its absolute worst level!). SAD, as most of the newer members probably wouldn’t know the difference? |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 7:29:43 PM EDT
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Whats worse is to ban someone for something they did not do. In this case this poor fellow was banned by the savages just because he used an ISP similar to someone they don't like. Thats one hell of a way to drive away business.
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Posted: 10/31/2003 8:02:47 PM EDT
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I agree. I got banned two days ago for posting a link to kvar's website and the email letter I received with all the mag specials. I wanted to give the other members a heads up, but the powers to be werent having it. The super mods changed my post like nothing ever happened then banned me. They truly practice communism over there. You follow the state or get the boot. Oh well no big lose, I'll just create another account for the classified section. 3-7infantry |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 8:37:15 PM EDT
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Received IM from moderator on the other site and tag-line is gone. Denying changing my profile, but says this....
"Re: az-ar Well then, I appologize for the mistake. It seems az-ar has a hardon for a few of us here including me. Just thought you might be him based upon the tone of some of your comments. BTW, what are you referring to as "changing your profile"? I don't know anything about that nor would I do so." But....Someone did it then deleted the information that was entered and the moderator 308 sent me the original bye-bye az-ar PM. |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 8:46:57 PM EDT
[#31]
I woulda caught it .... but I was too late getting here ;) |
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Posted: 10/31/2003 8:48:56 PM EDT
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It sounds like business as usual over there.
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Posted: 10/31/2003 8:53:32 PM EDT
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All is well again in the land of nutz.
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Posted: 10/31/2003 9:35:16 PM EDT
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I get 3 to 4 spam e-mails a day that come thru IANA
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Posted: 10/31/2003 9:44:13 PM EDT
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A MODS POSTS GET DELETED AT DOTNUTZ? |
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Posted: 11/1/2003 12:00:48 AM EDT
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My Ip is 10.11.4.26
I wont tell you what that translates to at the router though |
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Posted: 11/1/2003 12:37:17 AM EDT
[#37]
I'm going to sleep like a baby tonight.
Fucking morons banned friends of mine. they weren't creating any problems. Redstar is truly going to fry for the inproprieties, now that the Gunsnutz lawyer decided to take Bowjob off the job. I want to see that board burn in hell!!!!! |
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Posted: 11/1/2003 12:38:53 AM EDT
[#38]
I'm going to sleep like a baby tonight.
Fucking morons banned friends of mine. they weren't creating any problems. Redstar is truly going to fry for the inproprieties, now that the Gunsnutz lawyer decided to take Bowjob off the job. I want to see that board burn in hell!!!!! |
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Posted: 11/1/2003 12:39:49 AM EDT
[#39]
Wow, it appears I'm so volatile that I can't even post here.
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Posted: 11/1/2003 3:35:22 AM EDT
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huh? you double tapped on the previous post. Are you on dail up? |
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Posted: 11/1/2003 6:49:37 AM EDT
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Uh. We only have their word that CumBubble was retired to other duties. Judgeing by the spelling and grammer of some of the responses he is alive and well in another persona.
To change the subject; Is it me or does the drama playing out over there remind anyone else of "The Cain Mutiny" |
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Posted: 11/1/2003 7:05:28 AM EDT
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To change the subject; Is it me or does the drama playing out over there remind anyone else of "The Cain Mutiny"
it reminds me of a soap opera in which all the characters are portrayed by inbred mongoloids. yes, i find it amazing they are too stooopid to realize that duh-thorn, ho dung, rusty. petey, chrissie and the whole pack of hyenas is the problem. the harder they try to apply the brakes the faster the wagon zooms out of control...and this time the wheels have fallen off. that bunch has finally figured out the formula for wrecking a site in record time. at least i'll give them credit for that. more so the "the cain mutiny", i find this reminds me of "bagdad bob's reports on the war". "the invaders are committing suicide at the gates!" translates into: we are completely in control and are running a kindler, gentler dorknutz. "we have routed the infidels and they are drowning in the tigris river!" translates into: we have crushed all opposition and order has been restored in the ranks. the party line WILL be upheld! |
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Posted: 11/1/2003 6:50:55 PM EDT
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Spoofed 'I.E. Counterfit' headers. Not really coming from IANA. |
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Posted: 11/1/2003 10:05:55 PM EDT
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Mak, before i was banned over there myself i read up on the problems with that az-ar character. He was accused of commiting MULTIPLE frauds on the board to the point of really ripping off a number of people. Id hate to get mixed up with that guy as i think some people are looking to take legal actions. Id try to set the straight if i were you.
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Posted: 11/1/2003 10:23:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/1/2003 10:31:21 PM EDT
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That is a pretty strong accusation about a member. Do you have proof like maybe a link or something. Multiple frauds? Like doctor evil says: riiigghht. |
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Posted: 11/2/2003 12:10:22 AM EDT
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Remember, this is gunsnet.
Here's a translation for those who are newbies: "Ripped people off", "Multiple Frauds", "bad businessmen" === An ethical competitor to one of their sponsors, such as any smith but garry gucciano and KVAR, Red Star Arms, etc. "Best gunsmith ever", "dozens of happy customers" === apparently fraudulent, in trouble with the Kansas attorney general, thousands of dollars taken for work never done and even more money demanded to return the parts kits after sitting on them for years, types of actions from Gary Gucciano (or whatever his name is.) Over there night is day, up is down, and reality is apparently what the mods decide it is... certainly as reflected on the board, cause if you say anything in disagreement with their jack-off fantasy view of hte world, your posts are changed, and you're kicked off the system. Never online have a met as many unethical and downright DISHONEST people as when I met the people running that board-- and its fortunate that being honest is an absolute defense against libel-- I welcome their cease and desist letter! They are dishonest-- they have changed my posts, and lied in their changes, and then banned me. An honest man can tolerate difference of opinion, even when the difference is over something thats actually fact, and not opinion. IF you believe them when they say someones committed fraudulent activity, then you're the victim of the scam! |
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Posted: 11/2/2003 4:30:43 AM EDT
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redmenace,
what you have posted about az-ar is very serious. can you provide proof of such a charge? az-ar seems to enjoy an unblemished record over here. |
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Posted: 11/2/2003 4:36:36 AM EDT
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I didnt make the accusation and i have no idea who did. It was one of the last things i read there before i was banned so i cant get any kind of links or anything. Considering the BS content that is prevalent over there i wouldnt be suprised if it was a pile of crap. I didnt even know that AZ posted here (oh creepy dude look at your post number for that one). I just figured that it was relevant to the discussion that OVER THERE this is what they were saying. I never said it was true. Im just passing it on. I wouldnt make any kind of accusation unless i was PERSONALLY effected. I appologize if i wasnt supposed to pass stuff like this on.
edited for clarity |
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Posted: 11/2/2003 6:54:10 AM EDT
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I read almost all of az-ar's posts on AK-47.nutz (those that hadn't been deleted). His 17 posts seemed pretty mild to me except like myself he made a comment about deleted posts critical of covering up GG/SAI and a comment about Joeken. Just as I had.
We are both from Tucson, AZ but have never met. I have worked in a Federal Law enforcement field for 17 years and have 4 more years of gov't service in the military. I did a search of AK-47.nutz and found nothing concerning az-ar having done anything to anyone under that name. Now if it is up to gunsnutz moderators to pin something on him with their investigative abilities, I wouldn't put a bit of trust in what they think of him. They were going to ban me just because some of our posts were similiar and we are both from Tucson, AZ. My IP shows that I use cox.net as an ISP. I don't know what service az-ar uses. Even the super-moderator 308 merely stated that az-ar seemed to have a hard-on for some people there. Funny, I couldn't find any remaining posts like that but my belief is that all posts that don't follow the party line there disappear within 2 days. That is why I posted that ORF had some nice rifles and posted a picture in the review section. Shit, Redstar asked if anyone knew anything about Ohio Rapidfire so I gave a review (with Krinkfreak's picture holding an AK-74 which was a tribute for his service?). Lasted 2 days before they figured out what it was. Poof, gone... Oh, by the way. 308 was no long listed as a super-moderator when I checked, I'll have to check when he is online ...now something listing him as "foreign administrator"? I had never even posted to a thread he was on as far as I know. Now, since I worked all night, I gotta jump in the shower and see what kinda deals I can get out at the Pima county fairgrounds where a gunshow is going on. |
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