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Link Posted: 2/27/2014 6:32:56 PM EDT
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As always, you have the most awesome badass stuff.

I'm honored to currently be in the same state as you, drinking lone star beer at the Gaylord Texan.
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Gotta spend the money before the kids have a chance to piss it away
Link Posted: 2/27/2014 11:30:45 PM EDT
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http://s6.postimg.org/mm22rj9vl/sgl31_95_2.jpg

SGL31 with zenit accessories,just added B33 rail from ok131583 on gunbroker. The B33 rail is a very tight fit, seems solid.

Still trying to decide between aimpoint or a CAA red dot
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 6:15:53 PM EDT
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Can the lower rail be used with an Ultimak?
Link Posted: 3/1/2014 1:15:48 PM EDT
[#4]
What muzzle break is that werepossum?
Link Posted: 3/1/2014 2:14:49 PM EDT
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What muzzle break is that werepossum?
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ok131583 on gunbroker, I think he is the one people are getting the Zenit gear from, has it llisted as a Zenit made muzzle brake.

Edit: here is a link:  Nope, if he wants it, he can Google it-HM
Link Posted: 3/1/2014 4:51:14 PM EDT
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retracted
Link Posted: 3/1/2014 4:55:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/1/2014 5:41:34 PM EDT
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That muzzle brake is called Zenit DTK-2
Link Posted: 3/1/2014 8:25:39 PM EDT
[#9]
Ok, thanks so much!
Link Posted: 3/2/2014 12:03:44 AM EDT
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That muzzle brake is called Zenit DTK-2
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Did you test it yet?  Thoughts? Looks neat and a little hefty!  

Edit:  Sorry Heavy, don't want to break rules
Link Posted: 3/8/2014 8:32:37 AM EDT
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Also tried out the new Zenit Perst-4 (Russian for finger) got off Gunbroker. This is a very attractive looking co-aligned Red/850nm laser similar in functionality to the LDI CQBL. The 850nm I would estimate at 1mw visually. Both lasers are zeroed using the same two turrets.

http://s6.postimg.org/619nwpq9t/perst2.jpg

This unit adds one key feature, digital dimming controls for the laser, eliminating the need to use filters or rigged up film from floppy disks to avoid blooming. Other features include a small indicator LED on the back of the laser, two on/off buttons, a connector for a remote switch, and a strobe function (press twice for strobe)

http://s6.postimg.org/fzumj6zpd/perst.jpg

The unit has a full aluminum housing, and a glass window protecting the laser emitters. For night time feral hog control, this unit would work wonders.


Also to note, as a test of the Zenit B-33 mount's return to zero capabilities, I sighted in the Aimpoint PRO and Perst to the exact same point using a 6x magnifier, popped open and re-placed the cover, and could see no difference at all. The B-33 is definitely good enough for reflex sights and possibly for magnified optics.

This group was shot at 50 yards with an SGL31 using an AImpoint PRO on the B-33 mount and DTK-2 muzzle brake
http://s6.postimg.org/rdh5uea81/sgl3195_group.jpg

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Did you test it yet?  Thoughts? Looks neat and a little hefty!  

Edit:  Sorry Heavy, don't want to break rules
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That muzzle brake is called Zenit DTK-2


Did you test it yet?  Thoughts? Looks neat and a little hefty!  

Edit:  Sorry Heavy, don't want to break rules


The DTK-2 pretty much eliminates muzzle climb on a semi auto 5.45x39 AK pattern rifle. At 50 yards using an aimpoint, a shot will push the dot several inches to the left or right on the target but not any discernible vertical muzzle climb. I can imagine true AK74Ms used in Russia would be very usable with this brake.
Link Posted: 3/8/2014 1:18:34 PM EDT
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Great info WP, thanks for posting. DTK-2 is something I'd like to test also but I didn't notice them anywhere. Did you get yours from Oleg?



I loaned my B33 rail to Voron so he could take a look but plan on doing magnified optic testing when I get it back. It feels very promising but we will see how it turns out.

I have a TWS gen 2 that I never got around to installing and am leaning towards picking up another AKARS to do a three way test on. I wasn't impressed with AKARS on the firsr go around but maybe I'll have better luck this time.
Link Posted: 3/8/2014 1:58:01 PM EDT
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What type of flash hider is that and how much does it weight compared to the AK-74 brake?
Link Posted: 3/8/2014 2:10:59 PM EDT
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Also tried out the new Zenit Perst-4 (Russian for finger) got off Gunbroker. This is a very attractive looking co-aligned Red/850nm laser similar in functionality to the LDI CQBL. The 850nm I would estimate at 1mw visually. Both lasers are zeroed using the same two turrets.

http://s6.postimg.org/619nwpq9t/perst2.jpg

This unit adds one key feature, digital dimming controls for the laser, eliminating the need to use filters or rigged up film from floppy disks to avoid blooming. Other features include a small indicator LED on the back of the laser, two on/off buttons, a connector for a remote switch, and a strobe function (press twice for strobe)

http://s6.postimg.org/fzumj6zpd/perst.jpg

The unit has a full aluminum housing, and a glass window protecting the laser emitters. For night time feral hog control, this unit would work wonders.


Also to note, as a test of the Zenit B-33 mount's return to zero capabilities, I sighted in the Aimpoint PRO and Perst to the exact same point using a 6x magnifier, popped open and re-placed the cover, and could see no difference at all. The B-33 is definitely good enough for reflex sights and possibly for magnified optics.

This group was shot at 50 yards with an SGL31 using an AImpoint PRO on the B-33 mount and DTK-2 muzzle brake
http://s6.postimg.org/rdh5uea81/sgl3195_group.jpg



The DTK-2 pretty much eliminates muzzle climb on a semi auto 5.45x39 AK pattern rifle. At 50 yards using an aimpoint, a shot will push the dot several inches to the left or right on the target but not any discernible vertical muzzle climb. I can imagine true AK74Ms used in Russia would be very usable with this brake.
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Also tried out the new Zenit Perst-4 (Russian for finger) got off Gunbroker. This is a very attractive looking co-aligned Red/850nm laser similar in functionality to the LDI CQBL. The 850nm I would estimate at 1mw visually. Both lasers are zeroed using the same two turrets.

http://s6.postimg.org/619nwpq9t/perst2.jpg

This unit adds one key feature, digital dimming controls for the laser, eliminating the need to use filters or rigged up film from floppy disks to avoid blooming. Other features include a small indicator LED on the back of the laser, two on/off buttons, a connector for a remote switch, and a strobe function (press twice for strobe)

http://s6.postimg.org/fzumj6zpd/perst.jpg

The unit has a full aluminum housing, and a glass window protecting the laser emitters. For night time feral hog control, this unit would work wonders.


Also to note, as a test of the Zenit B-33 mount's return to zero capabilities, I sighted in the Aimpoint PRO and Perst to the exact same point using a 6x magnifier, popped open and re-placed the cover, and could see no difference at all. The B-33 is definitely good enough for reflex sights and possibly for magnified optics.

This group was shot at 50 yards with an SGL31 using an AImpoint PRO on the B-33 mount and DTK-2 muzzle brake
http://s6.postimg.org/rdh5uea81/sgl3195_group.jpg

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That muzzle brake is called Zenit DTK-2


Did you test it yet?  Thoughts? Looks neat and a little hefty!  

Edit:  Sorry Heavy, don't want to break rules


The DTK-2 pretty much eliminates muzzle climb on a semi auto 5.45x39 AK pattern rifle. At 50 yards using an aimpoint, a shot will push the dot several inches to the left or right on the target but not any discernible vertical muzzle climb. I can imagine true AK74Ms used in Russia would be very usable with this brake.


what NVG are you using with the IR?
Link Posted: 3/8/2014 4:19:48 PM EDT
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Also tried out the new Zenit Perst-4 (Russian for finger) got off Gunbroker. This is a very attractive looking co-aligned Red/850nm laser similar in functionality to the LDI CQBL. The 850nm I would estimate at 1mw visually. Both lasers are zeroed using the same two turrets.

http://s6.postimg.org/619nwpq9t/perst2.jpg

This unit adds one key feature, digital dimming controls for the laser, eliminating the need to use filters or rigged up film from floppy disks to avoid blooming. Other features include a small indicator LED on the back of the laser, two on/off buttons, a connector for a remote switch, and a strobe function (press twice for strobe)

http://s6.postimg.org/fzumj6zpd/perst.jpg

The unit has a full aluminum housing, and a glass window protecting the laser emitters. For night time feral hog control, this unit would work wonders.


Also to note, as a test of the Zenit B-33 mount's return to zero capabilities, I sighted in the Aimpoint PRO and Perst to the exact same point using a 6x magnifier, popped open and re-placed the cover, and could see no difference at all. The B-33 is definitely good enough for reflex sights and possibly for magnified optics.

This group was shot at 50 yards with an SGL31 using an AImpoint PRO on the B-33 mount and DTK-2 muzzle brake
http://s6.postimg.org/rdh5uea81/sgl3195_group.jpg



The DTK-2 pretty much eliminates muzzle climb on a semi auto 5.45x39 AK pattern rifle. At 50 yards using an aimpoint, a shot will push the dot several inches to the left or right on the target but not any discernible vertical muzzle climb. I can imagine true AK74Ms used in Russia would be very usable with this brake.
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Also tried out the new Zenit Perst-4 (Russian for finger) got off Gunbroker. This is a very attractive looking co-aligned Red/850nm laser similar in functionality to the LDI CQBL. The 850nm I would estimate at 1mw visually. Both lasers are zeroed using the same two turrets.

http://s6.postimg.org/619nwpq9t/perst2.jpg

This unit adds one key feature, digital dimming controls for the laser, eliminating the need to use filters or rigged up film from floppy disks to avoid blooming. Other features include a small indicator LED on the back of the laser, two on/off buttons, a connector for a remote switch, and a strobe function (press twice for strobe)

http://s6.postimg.org/fzumj6zpd/perst.jpg

The unit has a full aluminum housing, and a glass window protecting the laser emitters. For night time feral hog control, this unit would work wonders.


Also to note, as a test of the Zenit B-33 mount's return to zero capabilities, I sighted in the Aimpoint PRO and Perst to the exact same point using a 6x magnifier, popped open and re-placed the cover, and could see no difference at all. The B-33 is definitely good enough for reflex sights and possibly for magnified optics.

This group was shot at 50 yards with an SGL31 using an AImpoint PRO on the B-33 mount and DTK-2 muzzle brake
http://s6.postimg.org/rdh5uea81/sgl3195_group.jpg

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That muzzle brake is called Zenit DTK-2


Did you test it yet?  Thoughts? Looks neat and a little hefty!  

Edit:  Sorry Heavy, don't want to break rules


The DTK-2 pretty much eliminates muzzle climb on a semi auto 5.45x39 AK pattern rifle. At 50 yards using an aimpoint, a shot will push the dot several inches to the left or right on the target but not any discernible vertical muzzle climb. I can imagine true AK74Ms used in Russia would be very usable with this brake.


Regarding the B-33, can you tell us more about how the rear recoil button works?  Is it just like the Parabellum mount?

Also, how low does the B-33 sit compared to, say, the TWS Dogleg?
Link Posted: 3/8/2014 4:20:34 PM EDT
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Great info WP, thanks for posting. DTK-2 is something I'd like to test also but I didn't notice them anywhere. Did you get yours from Oleg?



I loaned my B33 rail to Voron so he could take a look but plan on doing magnified optic testing when I get it back. It feels very promising but we will see how it turns out.

I have a TWS gen 2 that I never got around to installing and am leaning towards picking up another AKARS to do a three way test on. I wasn't impressed with AKARS on the firsr go around but maybe I'll have better luck this time.
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I'd love to see all three side by side.  In fact, I've never seen a thorough side by side comparison of the TWS vs. the AKARS.
Link Posted: 3/8/2014 9:48:48 PM EDT
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This thread is already skating on thin ice.  I don't want to lock it but I will.  VA Gunnut has already cleaned-up some gunbroker links.

You have the sellers name,  I could have removed that too.  It is easy enough to find his listings.  Super-easy.

Again, this thread is on the thinnest of ice.
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Moderators!
What is wrong with you people?
Up until this thread was published there was virtually NOTHING coming up in google when you punch in ZenitCo. Now, that some of these items found its way to the good ole US of A and as people are able to play with them, it is absolutely natural for them to want to share their thoughts and give head's up to others. Questions of "where do I get these things" or "how much" or "I saw it cheaper there" are only natural and most people don't consider this as “product endorsement” when they post a direct link or especially when they just mention sellers name or talk about their experience while obtaining these items. I am sorry, but threatening to remove this whole thread is a bit too much. A sheer volume of reads of this thread should tell you that this discussion is in demand and many people were in fact searching for the information disclosed and discussed here. I mean, as of right now this thread's statistics show 3700+ reads. Mind you, this is only since Feb. 16th, when it was published. In the same “AK discussions” category, average thread of this age gets few tens or may be few hundreds reads at most. To me this is telling that many people were looking for this info, they are interested in technology discussed here, and they are sharing it with others (by forwarding hyperlinks to this topic to their friends).
So, rather than threatening to deprive people of this resource of valuable information, why don't just do what you supposed to, just remove or edit those posts that do not adhere to the forum's rules. This way everyone will be happy.

P.S. Frankly, I don't think some of my posts were edited on fair grounds, but hey, life's B. sometimes...
Link Posted: 3/9/2014 6:49:25 PM EDT
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