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Posted: 11/7/2018 5:57:41 AM EDT
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Get something with an etched reticle.
I have horrible astigmatism and use a Leupold Prismatic. |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 8:20:01 AM EDT
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Holosun 510c or eotech
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Posted: 11/7/2018 8:49:30 AM EDT
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I have a Vortex Spitfire 1X. It's crystal clear. The Leupold prismatic wasn't available, but that is the one I was looking for.
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Posted: 11/7/2018 8:53:25 AM EDT
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This is what you seek, I now own two of them: https://www.primaryarms.com/pa-1x-compact-prism-scope-with-acss-cyclops-reticle-black
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Posted: 11/7/2018 10:20:11 AM EDT
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OP, I'm in the same boat. Currently converting all of my Aimpoints over to ACOGs.
The ACOGs are prismatic optics with laser etched reticles. While I can shoot just fine with the star-bursty red dots, the ACOG reticles and glass are just super crisp and clear. Literally a night and day difference. For red dot replacements, I highly recommend the TA44 ACSS (red or green is up to you): https://www.primaryarms.com/TA44-C-400307 Sootch has a deal on his Full30 video review of the TA44 ACSS that will give you a free QD mount. I just picked up 2 more of them using his link. It's a great deal. |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 10:21:25 AM EDT
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Primary arms cyclops would be a good option. If you dont mind a little magnification the Trijicon 1.5x with teh ACSS reticle from Primary Arms would be a good options as well. Could always go with a good LPVO like the Stiener P4XI or Burris XTR1-5
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Posted: 11/7/2018 10:25:16 AM EDT
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OP, I'm in the same boat. Currently converting all of my Aimpoints over to ACOGs. The ACOGs are prismatic optics with laser etched reticles. While I can shoot just fine with the star-bursty red dots, the ACOG reticles and glass are just super crisp and clear. Literally a night and day difference. For red dot replacements, I highly recommend the TA44 ACSS (red or green is up to you): https://www.primaryarms.com/TA44-C-400307 Sootch has a deal on his Full30 video review of the TA44 ACSS that will give you a free QD mount. I just picked up 2 more of them using his link. It's a great deal. |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 11:19:46 AM EDT
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Primary Arms also offers their prism sights with acss in 2.5x, 3x and 5x if budget is an issue. That's why I tossed out the TA44 ACOGs. 
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Posted: 11/7/2018 11:22:41 AM EDT
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Suck it up, get LASEK or PRK for your dominant eye, and enjoy crisp red dots, uber crisp scopes, spotters, cameras, and unaided vision. It will be the best money you ever invest in optics.
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Posted: 11/7/2018 11:32:47 AM EDT
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OP, I'm in the same boat. Currently converting all of my Aimpoints over to ACOGs. The ACOGs are prismatic optics with laser etched reticles. While I can shoot just fine with the star-bursty red dots, the ACOG reticles and glass are just super crisp and clear. Literally a night and day difference. For red dot replacements, I highly recommend the TA44 ACSS (red or green is up to you): https://www.primaryarms.com/TA44-C-400307 Sootch has a deal on his Full30 video review of the TA44 ACSS that will give you a free QD mount. I just picked up 2 more of them using his link. It's a great deal. |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 11:35:29 AM EDT
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Suck it up, get LASEK or PRK for your dominant eye, and enjoy crisp red dots, uber crisp scopes, spotters, cameras, and unaided vision. It will be the best money you ever invest in optics. If you wear glasses, I know that the prescription plays a uuuuuge part. I bet that if you wear your up close prescription, the dot is much tighter. I know it improves the shit out of my open sight picture. A procedure isn't an option, until it becomes the only option. Sometimes people don't like the outcome, so choose wisely. |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 11:37:21 AM EDT
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OP, I'm in the same boat. Currently converting all of my Aimpoints over to ACOGs. The ACOGs are prismatic optics with laser etched reticles. While I can shoot just fine with the star-bursty red dots, the ACOG reticles and glass are just super crisp and clear. Literally a night and day difference. For red dot replacements, I highly recommend the TA44 ACSS (red or green is up to you): https://www.primaryarms.com/TA44-C-400307 Sootch has a deal on his Full30 video review of the TA44 ACSS that will give you a free QD mount. I just picked up 2 more of them using his link. It's a great deal.  
Does it come with a mount? What mount are you using? |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 11:57:28 AM EDT
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Anything with an etched reticle and adjustable diopter.
Vortex Spitfire 1x (non AR) or Primary Arms Cyclops prismatics if you're looking for a RDS 1x alternative. |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 12:37:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you sir. I watched scootch & mrgunsgear review & this is the optic I will purchase. After having it for a few months and it really starting to grow on me, I finally made the decision to switch the rest of my Aimpoints over to the TA44 ACSS. Sootch's affiliate link for the free mount makes it a killer deal IMO. |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 12:38:52 PM EDT
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Thanks for this post. It will probably alter the dynamic of my Black Friday purchases.
Does it come with a mount? What mount are you using? I went with the Midwest Industries and have since standardized all of my mounts on them. I really like their rail clamping and latching mechanism. |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 1:29:27 PM EDT
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This
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Posted: 11/7/2018 1:30:12 PM EDT
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Primary Arms also offers their prism sights with acss in 2.5x, 3x and 5x if budget is an issue. |
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Posted: 11/7/2018 1:33:54 PM EDT
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An etched reticle optic will be ideal, something like a 1-4x scope. I have astigmatism and use Aimpoints and Eotechs. Eotechs seem to be a little better but I can use Aimpoints ok as long as I keep the brightness low. Looking at the optic through the rear sight aperture also makes either reticle perfectly clear.
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Posted: 11/7/2018 2:00:13 PM EDT
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That is true. But...he said he wanted at least the same quality as Aimpoint PRO and Trijicon MRO and has a budget of less than $1k. That's why I tossed out the TA44 ACOGs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Primary Arms also offers their prism sights with acss in 2.5x, 3x and 5x if budget is an issue. That's why I tossed out the TA44 ACOGs.
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Posted: 11/7/2018 4:42:48 PM EDT
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I recently purchased two Vortex Spitfire 1x AR prism sights, and I'm pretty impressed with them. One went on a 3-gun AR15 and the other went on a AR15 that I hunt with. Haven't shot anything with the hunting rifle, but I have used the 3-gun AR in two matches. Just as fast close up and a lot more accurate at the longer ranges (out to 165 yards).
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Posted: 11/7/2018 7:01:37 PM EDT
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We published this to our blog a week ago. I was the primary writer on the article, so if you have any questions after reading it, just ping me. Bonus points if you can spot the Fallout video game reference.
Scope University: Red Dots vs. 1x Prism Scopes (and TA44 ACSS too!) 
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Posted: 11/8/2018 2:01:21 PM EDT
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Get a Cyclops
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Posted: 11/8/2018 2:41:01 PM EDT
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Primary Arms also offers their prism sights with acss in 2.5x, 3x and 5x if budget is an issue. |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 4:08:30 PM EDT
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The 5X is pretty heavy though. I have one , didn't think it would be too bad but its gets tiresome and makes the weapon fairly top heavy causing side to side swinging when using it offhand for a while. Resting its great but damn its hefty. Great optic though, wish it were half the weight though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Primary Arms also offers their prism sights with acss in 2.5x, 3x and 5x if budget is an issue.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 7:38:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey, if you think our 5x is heavy, try the Trijicon 5.5x ACOG. That thing is a foot long and 25.6 ounces, so hey, ours is compact dammit! |
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Posted: 11/8/2018 7:50:00 PM EDT
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Same issue here. Anything prismatic i fine. Vortex, Primary Arms, Bushnell, Trijicon, I have no problem with EoTechs.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 8:10:29 PM EDT
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Has anyone had issues with negative magnification with 1x prism scopes? I think my spitfire AR might be defective.
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Posted: 11/8/2018 8:35:04 PM EDT
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Anything with an etched reticle and adjustable diopter. Vortex Spitfire 1x (non AR) or Primary Arms Cyclops prismatics if you're looking for a RDS 1x alternative. |
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Posted: 11/9/2018 12:28:03 PM EDT
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Has anyone had issues with negative magnification with 1x prism scopes? I think my spitfire AR might be defective. |
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Posted: 11/9/2018 1:09:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @VortexOptics can address this better than I can, but the Spitfire has a really solid rep. You might want to take another shot at adjusting the ocular, for most people when they get that diopter ring set properly the apparent magnification (or negative mag) goes away unless you are looking at stuff crazy close, like playing with the rifle on your couch and looking at a picture on the wall 10 feet away. Indeed this is absolutely related to the diopter setting. A prism scope is more closely related to a traditional riflescope than it is a red dot - even when you get a fixed 1x model. Just like a low power variable that has a true 1x on the low end, if your diopter is not set properly, it can give you a slightly negative or positive magnification feel around true 1x and cause some distortion. When you're outside or in a large open space, look through the optic and pan back and forth, adjusting the diopter slightly every time you pan. Take your eye away from the optic to rest before going back to look at it again after a small adjustment. Looking with both eyes open, once your eye that is not behind the optic and the eye that is looking through the optic appear to be seeing the exact same thing, then you're set and you can just leave the diopter there and never worry about it again unless it gets adjusted somehow. Hope this helps! If that doesn't seem to solve it then give us a call 1-800-426-0048 - Jimmy H |
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Posted: 11/9/2018 9:03:02 PM EDT
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for some reason triangular dots don't seem to cause issues with astigmatism. One of my local RO's has astigmatism and uses a Leupold Deltapoint, I have astigmatism and use a Meprolight M21. Triangle is clear and perfectly crisp, whereas a dot type reticle gives me a grape cluster approx 20MOA across. I use the tip of the triangle for precision shooting, and for fast stuff I just put the dot on top and let er rip.
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Posted: 11/9/2018 11:27:58 PM EDT
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I have trouble with red dots and started getting rid of them.
Current stuff I am using that is working for me: ACOG 1.5 with ACSS green, got rid of the red one as it was too bright for me and bloomed. Trijicon TR24G PA 5x prism. They should all do the trick. Used to be fine with Eotechs, but it and the Vortex version don't work for me anymore either. |
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Posted: 11/10/2018 1:22:52 PM EDT
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I struggle badly with astigmatism myself. I have been transitioning away from any type of RDS or holographic sight. I have two LPVOs, which are a Trijicon AccuPower 1-8 and a Vortex Viper PST 1-4, and I'm loving both of them so far. I also have a Vortex Spitfire 1x (predecessor to the Spitfire AR) and I love it as well.
The Primary Arms Cyclops looks really interesting as well. How bright is its illumination? |
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Posted: 11/10/2018 2:09:14 PM EDT
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Several years back a ran a leupold prismatic on an ak. I really liked it.
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Posted: 11/14/2018 10:03:55 AM EDT
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I struggle badly with astigmatism myself. I have been transitioning away from any type of RDS or holographic sight. I have two LPVOs, which are a Trijicon AccuPower 1-8 and a Vortex Viper PST 1-4, and I'm loving both of them so far. I also have a Vortex Spitfire 1x (predecessor to the Spitfire AR) and I love it as well. The Primary Arms Cyclops looks really interesting as well. How bright is its illumination? |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 8:20:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Very. I rate as daylight bright. @fireman325 |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 5:25:46 PM EDT
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for some reason triangular dots don't seem to cause issues with astigmatism. One of my local RO's has astigmatism and uses a Leupold Deltapoint, I have astigmatism and use a Meprolight M21. Triangle is clear and perfectly crisp, whereas a dot type reticle gives me a grape cluster approx 20MOA across. I use the tip of the triangle for precision shooting, and for fast stuff I just put the dot on top and let er rip. For OP, a simple solution that costs nothing, might be worth considering. Raise your rear aperture sight and look through it while using your existing red dot sight. Tell us if that helps. Chances are good that it will. For some reason, this really sharpens the image for most people with astigmatism. If you can live with this solution it costs nothing. Some people run a low profile fixed rear sight behind their red dot for this very reason. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 8:30:04 PM EDT
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I just got a PA 2.5X Prism sight, and the reticle is perfectly crisp, clear and easy to see.
Way better than a projected dot for me, to be honest. Larry |
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