Is the search feature back up? If so, try a search on Elcan. You will find that baout everyone thinks the glass is great, but those people who want/need an optic usable in field conditions hate the thing. The mounts and adjustments leave a heck of a lot to be desired. If it is a range gun, and a range gun ONLY, I'm sure the Elcan, or almost any other inexpensive optic would be fine. Otherwise... It sure is hard to beat the ACOGs.