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Posted: 4/13/2016 9:29:52 AM EDT
I've been testing out my Aero Precision 16in mid-length with various types of factory loaded ammo to see what's best as I don't reload. So far for match ammo I've used gorilla 69 and 77gr smk, Hornady 75gr otm (which was horrible 2in groups) and asym 68gr otm. The rifle grouped the best with the 69 gorilla and 68gr asym coming in at right at an inch.
So I'm looking to try something other rounds looking hard at the federal gold medal match 223 69gr but then I saw molons review of the Barnes Precision match 85gr Give me some thoughts which should I go with |
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I would try Gold Medal 69 and 77gr. Ive also had pretty good results with Norma Match 77gr.
If you hand load or want to try, I've had good results with 23.5gr Varget under a 77gr SMK from multiple rifles. AeroE's load of 52gr SMK's over 27gr of RE15 also tends to be a good shooter from multiple rifles. |
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FGMM and Fed. 50gr Tipped varmint are pretty consistently accurate out of a variety of AR's.
The Tipped Varmint can be bought for 1/2 the price of FGMM......I have shot it out to 250yds, past that and the wind messes with it more then the 69gr and 77gr. What range are you shooting at ? If 100yds, I would strongly suggest the 50gr Tipped varmint. Much more "bang for your buck".... pun intended. |
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I shoot a decent amount of tipped varmint. It's good for about 1.5MOA in 10 shot groups. Ive done a .836MOA average for the MOA challenge with it.
Excellent for shooting steel at 300 yards. |
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FGMM and Fed. 50gr Tipped varmint are pretty consistently accurate out of a variety of AR's. The Tipped Varmint can be bought for 1/2 the price of FGMM......I have shot it out to 250yds, past that and the wind messes with it more then the 69gr and 77gr. What range are you shooting at ? If 100yds, I would strongly suggest the 50gr Tipped varmint. Much more "bang for your buck".... pun intended. View Quote Can't agree more. |
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Most places seem to be out of the federal gold medal match in 77gr so I'm gonna go with the 69gr
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Most places seem to be out of the federal gold medal match in 77gr so I'm gonna go with the 69gr View Quote 77gr FGMM.... http://ammoseek.com/ammo/223-remington/Federal-rifle-77grains- 69gr FGMM... http://ammoseek.com/ammo/223-remington/Federal-rifle-69grains- 50gr Tipped Varmint.... http://ammoseek.com/ammo/223-remington/Federal-rifle-50grains-?ikw=Tipped |
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Thanks gonna go with a few boxes of each fgmm.
Lax ammo has both in stock are they good to deal with? Never used then |
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LOL thanks Molon for your awesome work I ended up ordering 4 boxes of the 69gr and 4 boxes of the 77gr gold metal match. hopefully lax ammo ships fast and I can go next weekend to the range. Ill try the Barnes 85gr next time
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I can't say enough good thing about Black Hills Blue. It is a lot cheaper because it's reloaded. But it's HIGH QUALITY reloaded. You can also spend the cash and get the red box. They're both good. But I've never felt the need. I have gotten some great groups with Black Hills Blue. I would also recommend the 52 bthp load for just 100 yards and testing for accuracy. Every one of my AR's has liked that bullet. It's magic. But they offer a lot of other bullets too. If yours like the 68's i ASYM, they have the 68's. You could try the 75's but it sounds like maybe yours might not like them. I suppose there could be a difference between hornady and black hills, but the black hills blue in 68 is the hornady bullet.
They also load the sierra bullets. 69 and 77's. My recce likes the 77's but for some reason nothing has like the 69's so far. Not sure why. They also load the hornady vmax 60 grain. If money were not object, I would just buy black hills ammo. It has worked really well for accuracy and the price is reasonable in the blue box. I keep M193 for my stash though because it's reasonable and they don't do an M193 load. |
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Just got a couple of the 69 FPGM today. Maybe next week I can try it out.
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FGMM and Fed. 50gr Tipped varmint are pretty consistently accurate out of a variety of AR's. The Tipped Varmint can be bought for 1/2 the price of FGMM......I have shot it out to 250yds, past that and the wind messes with it more then the 69gr and 77gr. What range are you shooting at ? If 100yds, I would strongly suggest the 50gr Tipped varmint. Much more "bang for your buck".... pun intended. View Quote ++ on the 50 grain ballistic tip. My favorite is Fiocchi but I've had very good results with other brands. It will consistently shoot 1MOA 5 shot groups through my 18" 1:8 Rainier barrel. |
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I focus on varying the weight of the bullets when trying to get a feel for accuracy with a new barrel using factory ammo. I worry less about the manufacturer of the ammo than getting a wide variety of bullet weights.
Also, too many AR shooters narrowly focus on heavy bullets for accuracy. Heavy bullets have advantages with wind drift past 200 yards, but there is no reason light bullets can't excel at 200 yards and in. Over time, I've learned my good AR likes 50 grain bullets best, followed by 75 grain. It will shoot some 55 grain loads well. 77 grain is OK, but not as good as 75. It does not like 69 grain bullets at all. Keep experimenting. |
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Well, that was disappointing....Last time out I was near .80 moa @ 100yards with some old reloads with Varget and an unknown/not remembered HPBT.
I tried out 2 - 10 round groups with 69gr FGMM. It was 2-3moa...... On to the next one. If only I had the time, I'd roll some of my own...... |
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There's something about those 69's.... Some people's rifles have good luck with them though.
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Ammo is coming in today. Cleaned you rifles last night really well. Going out Sunday to the range. Need to get my new scope zeroed first with some cheap stuff I'll bore snake it and start on the good stuff
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Ammo is coming in today. Cleaned you rifles last night really well. Going out Sunday to the range. Need to get my new scope zeroed first with some cheap stuff I'll bore snake it and start on the good stuff View Quote IMHO, no need to clean in between ammo. Most barrels group better a little dirty. In my experience. |
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FYI... this is last weeks ( The best of the groups ) Fed 50gr Tipped Varmint at 100yds, benched scoped 14x power 20" Kreiger. Just wanted to show it off.... https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/13006571_1156687337685365_7699710325671128241_n.jpg?oh=cfd0d627c1deec8444c8398741c2d8ad&oe=57AB4CBC View Quote All the quarters of the world, WATCH OUT!!!!! Great shooting. |
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Quoted: FYI... this is last weeks ( The best of the groups ) Fed 50gr Tipped Varmint at 100yds, benched scoped 14x power 20" Kreiger. Just wanted to show it off.... https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/13006571_1156687337685365_7699710325671128241_n.jpg?oh=cfd0d627c1deec8444c8398741c2d8ad&oe=57AB4CBC View Quote Nice shooting. I need to pick up some of these Fed 50gr Varmints to try. So far, for me and my rifles, ADI's 55gr BlitzKing load has been awesome. You can find it for $10-11/box of 20, under the "Australian Outback" label. It's kills ground hogs and prairie dogs real good too |
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Nice shooting. I need to pick up some of these Fed 50gr Varmints to try. So far, for me and my rifles, ADI's 55gr BlitzKing load has been awesome. You can find it for $10-11/box of 20, under the "Australian Outback" label. It's kills ground hogs and prairie dogs real good too View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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FYI... this is last weeks ( The best of the groups ) Fed 50gr Tipped Varmint at 100yds, benched scoped 14x power 20" Kreiger. Just wanted to show it off.... https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/13006571_1156687337685365_7699710325671128241_n.jpg?oh=cfd0d627c1deec8444c8398741c2d8ad&oe=57AB4CBC Nice shooting. I need to pick up some of these Fed 50gr Varmints to try. So far, for me and my rifles, ADI's 55gr BlitzKing load has been awesome. You can find it for $10-11/box of 20, under the "Australian Outback" label. It's kills ground hogs and prairie dogs real good too Best part about the Fed. 50gr Tipped Varmint .. was the price, cheapest I have gotten it was $5.79 / 20rd box.... ( Currently $10 / 20rd box. )... should have bought 10 cases.... |
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Quoted: Best part about the Fed. 50gr Tipped Varmint .. was the price, cheapest I have gotten it was $5.79 / 20rd box.... ( Currently $10 / 20rd box. )... should have bought 10 cases.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: FYI... this is last weeks ( The best of the groups ) Fed 50gr Tipped Varmint at 100yds, benched scoped 14x power 20" Kreiger. Just wanted to show it off.... https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/13006571_1156687337685365_7699710325671128241_n.jpg?oh=cfd0d627c1deec8444c8398741c2d8ad&oe=57AB4CBC Nice shooting. I need to pick up some of these Fed 50gr Varmints to try. So far, for me and my rifles, ADI's 55gr BlitzKing load has been awesome. You can find it for $10-11/box of 20, under the "Australian Outback" label. It's kills ground hogs and prairie dogs real good too Best part about the Fed. 50gr Tipped Varmint .. was the price, cheapest I have gotten it was $5.79 / 20rd box.... ( Currently $10 / 20rd box. )... should have bought 10 cases.... Dang! That's cheap. I'll have to get some. I bet it works well on whistle pigs, too. |
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Where do you guys find these deals? Geeez that's cheap. Last "good" deal I got was 6.99 of XM193 from PSA. Shipped for free. Well actually if I'm honest, I added a BX-25 mag to my order and I didn't get free shipping any more. I should've left it off.
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