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Posted: 4/30/2004 6:20:45 PM EDT
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KKF and DPMS are both first rate, the CZ is a step down I think
Either of the first two should outlast your interest in firearms and maybe your kids' as well. |
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Posted: 4/30/2004 6:56:41 PM EDT
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I've been researching this and I'm planning to buy a DPMS as soon as Cheaperthandirt has them in stock at the advertised $399 price. Looks like the best combination of quality and value. I'm hoping it will run with the M261 magazines, of which I already have several.
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Posted: 5/1/2004 4:04:06 AM EDT
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Also take a look at the uppers made by Rick Kuehl. I have two that run super. He uses a modified Ciener kit, so 30 rnd mags are readily available (but expensive at ~$110 each). 10 round mags cost ~$25. These uppers can be had with full auto capability if you ever get there. Also, he recesses the barrel in the receiver so a 16" barrel looks more like the 14.5" - that if you go for the M4 look alike. The only problem I've had with the Ciener is with some used mags I bought that needed the feed lips adjusted. It won't work if these are bent.
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Posted: 5/1/2004 5:36:21 AM EDT
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I second the Kuehl upper. You may want to consider it also. Here's a pic of it.
Dan 
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Posted: 5/1/2004 6:47:01 AM EDT
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Thanks for the replies folks!
I forgot all about Kuehl Precision. Boy, that is a good price on the DPMS unit at CTD. That's cheaper than Brownells with an FFL/C&R discount. No wonder they are sold out. That's a beautiful 22LR M4, Dan0341! |
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Posted: 5/1/2004 2:13:04 PM EDT
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Can't get KKF's stuff over here in the UK, but had a look at the CZ and DPMS M4. CZ is ok, but looks like any other .22 rifle (side cocking bolt). It will use Ciener 30 round mags though.
Went with a pre-ban DPMS M4 carbine in the end, real quality and its the 'real deal' M4. 10 round mags are a bummer, but Southern Gun Co here in UK will be selling a 25 round mag shortly. It's stuck in customs at Chicago Intl at the moment waiting for Feb export papers,(come on guys it's been 3 weeks  )Will post a better review with pics when i get my hands on it. Andy |
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Posted: 5/2/2004 5:16:37 AM EDT
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You can't go wrong with Kuehl. I've got one listed on the equipment exchange for a very resonable price.
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Posted: 5/3/2004 12:50:20 AM EDT
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Kuehl rules! 30rd mags are expensive, but after the AWB sunset the prices should drop back down again. His work is great, he tests for fit and function - even the magazines. I had him make me a semiauto M4gery and a full auto SD upper. Luckily I had a bunch of 30rd mags I got before the ban, and spare suppressor lying around. I'm a happy camper.
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Posted: 5/3/2004 4:03:21 AM EDT
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Anyone have a link for Keuhl uppers? TIA!
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Posted: 5/3/2004 6:48:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/3/2004 4:43:58 PM EDT
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I chose the Kuehl in part because only the finest materals are used and you are getting a personal hand built upper. FN uppers and highest grade match barrels with match tolerences are employed. Not a mass produced upper but a truly hand made upper.
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Posted: 5/4/2004 7:36:51 AM EDT
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Brownell's carries these...they have the flat top bull barrel one for $349 dealer price...get that C&R TODAY!! They also carry M4 and CMP versions, but they cost more. |
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