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Posted: 2/12/2009 1:29:19 AM EDT
Young Mfg still has plenty of chrome and parked AR and 16 carriers/assys in stock 2-3 week wait. Why pay $175+ for used.
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They dont come staked. Its not hard to do but is a slight inconvenience to some without the know how.
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Where is the staking thread? I have two I need to stake. Do I need the Red Loctite also?
The Young Mfg. National Match carriers are works of art! AC |
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Don't understand the mystery of staking the key, no biggee. +1 especially when you have a MOACKS! |
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I noticed that they offer an AR-15 National Match Bolt Carrier/ Chrome w/Key and a M-16 National Match Bolt Carrier/ Chrome w/Key.
What's the difference (sorry, newby)? Is it just that the M-16 is manufactured to stand up to full auto mode and the AR-15 is for semi? If so, does the M-16 fit an AR-15? Does it really matter which one I buy? Thanks in advance for your patience with the new guy. |
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How long is it taking people to get these? I ordered a complete chrome bolt and carrier about a week ago. I left a comment to see if they had any in stock to email me. They haven't gotten back to me and haven't taken payment or given me a tracking number.
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I noticed that they offer an AR-15 National Match Bolt Carrier/ Chrome w/Key and a M-16 National Match Bolt Carrier/ Chrome w/Key. What's the difference (sorry, newby)? Is it just that the M-16 is manufactured to stand up to full auto mode and the AR-15 is for semi? If so, does the M-16 fit an AR-15? Does it really matter which one I buy? Thanks in advance for your patience with the new guy. M16 carriers are built a little heavier and yes they fit in an semi. i find that the m16 carriers seem a little smoother feeling to me but no it doesn't really matter which one you buy, but i'm sure that someone will be along to tell me i'm wrong and that you will go to jail for using an m16 carrier. |
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I went with the 16 carrier for the weight. Stoner designed it to work a certain way, not going to mess with how he intended. Plus I wasn't sure if the AR carriers had the shrouded firing pin area.
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I just red loctited my key. No issues at all, although I do check it at every cleaning.
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Order placed on the 11th, I'll post when I get it. When I talked to Steve a few weeks ago he had plenty of carriers, both, in stock.
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The difference between the AR15 bolt carrier and the M16? It is true that the M16 is heavier, but that is because there is a little more material toward the back on the bottom of the M16 carrier to allow it to trip the full auto sear. You can take an M16 carrier and use it in your AR15 with no legal problems as the addition of the M16 carrier by itself does not allow your weapon to fire full auto via the slam fire method. If you put in other fire control parts and use rounds with soft primers, you can get it to fire full auto without the full auto sear. However, it is dangerous to do that. The advantage of using an M16 bolt carrier over an AR15 bolt carrier for some brands such as Colt, is that on Colt's AR15 bolt carriers, they have the firing pin exposed to further interfere with your attempts to convert your weapon to full auto. Having a covered firing pin prevents certain types of stoppages, so with a brand like Colt, you are better off with the M16 bolt carrier not because of the added weight, but because the firing pin is covered. However, the Young Manufacturing bolt carriers have the covered firing pin on both the AR15 carrier and the M16 carrier. So, with Young, you are good to go with either the AR or M16 bolt carrier, but it is true that the M16 does have a little more weight.
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Here's my Young Mfg N/M chrome BCG staked. You can see the chrome kind of cracks a bit arond the staking, but so what... Think theres any chance of the cracked chrome flaking -you know to where it could gouge the upper or charging handle? |
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Where is the staking thread? I have two I need to stake. Do I need the Red Loctite also? The Young Mfg. National Match carriers are works of art! AC here ya go http://www.jobrelatedstuff.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=130&t=160446 one of the very few topics i have subscribed |
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not very good staking
Here's my Young Mfg N/M chrome BCG staked. You can see the chrome kind of cracks a bit arond the staking, but so what... http://www.farturator.com/amg/ar-15/bcg/YM_NM_Staking.jpg http://www.farturator.com/amg/ar-15/bcg/YM_NM_Staking2.jpg |
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Just throwing out there that the young AR carriers DO have shrouded firing pins, and have so little material removed vs. an m16 carrier @ the rear that I'd say it's a negligible weight difference.
If you're not going to be using it in an M16 I really don't see any reason to avoid their AR15 carriers. Like I said, just throwing it out there... I have one of their AR15 phosphate carriers that I really like and I just picked up a chromed one today from YM at the gunshow. Top notch machining. |
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Do they have BCGs in stock?
How long have wait times been for people so far? |
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Quoted: Do they have BCGs in stock? How long have wait times been for people so far? I ordered two parked M16 bolt carriers 2/1. They haven't charged my card yet. I'm at least 2 weeks so far. I had an email from them 2/2 which said "We thought you'd like to know that the status of your order has been changed from New Order to In Progress." Haven't heard anything else yet, but I'm still within the time quoted on the website. I'm hoping they ship this week! |
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Rainier Arms still has LMT M16 & AR15 BCG's in stock. They are pricey, but one of the best out there and
suited for 14.5" uppers and larger... http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=527 AC |
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Do they have BCGs in stock? How long have wait times been for people so far? i ordered one saturday morning.and right in the header of the email, it says"expect 3 weeks to ship" |
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Quoted: Quoted: Do they have BCGs in stock? How long have wait times been for people so far? i ordered one saturday morning.and right in the header of the email, it says"expect 3 weeks to ship" Sounds like their wait times are increasing. I just checked my emails from 2/1 and 2/2. I didn't have anything about shipping in mine. (I did expect 2 - 3 weeks, and probably closer to 3 than 2.) |
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All I received was an email that my order had switched to "in progress." They haven't billed me or sent me a tracking order. It has been almost a solid week know, but I don't really care because I still need to find a Noveske Afgan in stock.
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All I received was an email that my order had switched to "in progress." They haven't billed me or sent me a tracking order. It has been almost a solid week know, but I don't really care because I still need to find a Noveske Afgan in stock. i just got an "in progress"email |
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Are these complete with the bolt or are they just the carrier?
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Do they have BCGs in stock? How long have wait times been for people so far? i ordered one saturday morning.and right in the header of the email, it says"expect 3 weeks to ship" Sounds like their wait times are increasing. I just checked my emails from 2/1 and 2/2. I didn't have anything about shipping in mine. (I did expect 2 - 3 weeks, and probably closer to 3 than 2.) Poking around and found this tread. I ordered a bolt carrier from Young on 26 Jan and got the order status change email next day as well. I haven't been charged yet either. Hope that helps guys figure out where they stand... |
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just got a shipping notice.but mind you,i only ordered a m16 carrier w/key.still i was expecting another week or so
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just got a shipping notice.but mind you,i only ordered a m16 carrier w/key.still i was expecting another week or so I ordered a YM National Match M16 chromed carrier and key on Tuesday last week and it shipped today... AC |
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Quoted: just got a shipping notice.but mind you,i only ordered a m16 carrier w/key.still i was expecting another week or so That sucks! I ordered mine just over 3 weeks ago. They haven't charged my card & I haven't received a shipping notice. |
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just got a shipping notice.but mind you,i only ordered a m16 carrier w/key.still i was expecting another week or so That sucks! I ordered mine just over 3 weeks ago. They haven't charged my card & I haven't received a shipping notice. In the same boat. |
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Took about a week and a half.
Staked it on Friday with a buddy who has bench vice.We had at least 8 beers and it still turned out nice! Wasnt cracked at all-althogh we did ding the back of the gas key where ith shop towel wasn't rolled up thick enough |
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I ordered mine today (M16 NM w/ key). I'll update when it arrives. I'm in no huge rush as long as I get it within a month's time.
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I ordered 2 bolt/carrier groups on Feb 11th. Later that day got another email saying it was upgraded to "in-progress". Waiting for further shipping info. Still in the 2 to 3 weeks as they suggested. 2 to 3 weeks is nothing compared to waiting for CMP! ;-)
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I got an email yesterday. Mine are supposed to be on the way w/ an ETA of Wednesday.
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Quoted: when did you order? I ordered on 2/6/09. I ordered 2/1. |
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Holy shit, I ordered my M16 NM carrier w/ key and a chrome cam pin on Friday. I just got the UPS tracking number! I guess I caught the latest batch.
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Holy shit, I ordered my M16 NM carrier w/ key and a chrome cam pin on Friday. I just got the UPS tracking number! I guess I caught the latest batch. Excellent. I should have either bought the NM instead of the regular chrome or possibly not ordered on Friday the 13th! Actually, my three weeks are not up until Friday, but I'm glad that you got your's so quickly! |
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Three weeks have come and gone since ordering and no tracking number yet....
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Three weeks have come and gone since ordering and no tracking number yet.... Waiting on a bolt? |
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Three weeks have come and gone since ordering and no tracking number yet.... Waiting on a bolt? Yep. AR-15 chrome complete (not NM). |
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I'm still waiting on the chrome 16 carrier. I emailed earlier this week to see if I'm close in the queue. No answer yet.
Maybe I should jump on a used one from the EE. |
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Whoo Hoo! Finally got a shipping notice today for my 2 chrome bolt carrier groups.
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I got mine in about seven days from placing the order to my door!
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How is the quality of these bolts compared to LMT or BCM for example? I have some LMT's on order, but am thinking about purchasing one of these for use in the meantime.
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update: Hell Yes! order being shipped as we speak. Complete chrome bolt and carrier, only took over a month!, all I need is the noveske and it's done.
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FYI-
Received mine and it is FINE. It IS staked. They did state three weeks to ship in e-mail confirmation and beat that considerably which is underpromising and overdelivering in my book. Good for them. Order date March 11, 2009 CC Charged March 19, 2009 BCG Received March 25, 2009 Phosphate BCG with CMT Bolt $155.00 plus shipping, two weeks computer to door- Way better than paying the "pirates" and sharks 200 for God-knows-what on the EE. F-em. RatSass |
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AR-15 NM BCG Chrome Complete:
Order Date: 28Feb09 Charged Date: 19Mar09 UPS delivered Date: 26Mar09 Thanks YM! |
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