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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:41:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SSOUNN: Where’d you get your hands on the Flash Hider..?? Been looking high and low for one Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SSOUNN: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Tomorrow https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/220444/20200420_182309_jpg-1377807.JPG Where’d you get your hands on the Flash Hider..?? Been looking high and low for one I always buy them from adco. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:43:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: I always buy them from adco. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Originally Posted By SSOUNN: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Tomorrow https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/220444/20200420_182309_jpg-1377807.JPG Where’d you get your hands on the Flash Hider..?? Been looking high and low for one I always buy them from adco. EVERYTIME I check with ADCO, it’s always OOS.. Sucks they don’t have a “Notify me” button 
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:49:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SSOUNN: EVERYTIME I check with ADCO, it’s always OOS.. Sucks they don’t have a “Notify me” button Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SSOUNN: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Originally Posted By SSOUNN: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Tomorrow https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/220444/20200420_182309_jpg-1377807.JPG Where’d you get your hands on the Flash Hider..?? Been looking high and low for one I always buy them from adco. EVERYTIME I check with ADCO, it’s always OOS.. Sucks they don’t have a “Notify me” button I noticed last week they're off the website entirely. I asked Steve what was up but he didn't answer @bigbore |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:55:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013: It’s for sure staying clone from this point on, gonna get the correct optic mount and, if I’m lucky, a RULR one day...  @Dobs031 Ha awesome. Reminds me: is that rifle a clone of a specific gun, or a general NSW recce? |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 6:58:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: I noticed last week they're off the website entirely. I asked Steve what was up but he didn't answer @bigbore Which flash hider? |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:01:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Which flash hider? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: I noticed last week they're off the website entirely. I asked Steve what was up but he didn't answer @bigbore Which flash hider? Aem5 mount a1 or a2 |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:02:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013: You wanna start light and layers with dark. I like using fde skillcraft obliterating compound as a base and then I’ll usually use aervoe or rustoleum over the top to add the patten. Pretty sure you can't give NSW rattle can advice if yours isn't rattle canned. Just sayin'
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:02:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: I noticed last week they're off the website entirely. I asked Steve what was up but he didn't answer @bigbore Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Originally Posted By SSOUNN: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Originally Posted By SSOUNN: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Tomorrow https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/220444/20200420_182309_jpg-1377807.JPG Where’d you get your hands on the Flash Hider..?? Been looking high and low for one I always buy them from adco. EVERYTIME I check with ADCO, it’s always OOS.. Sucks they don’t have a “Notify me” button I noticed last week they're off the website entirely. I asked Steve what was up but he didn't answer @bigbore If you’re talking about the A1 OP/AE Flash Hider there’s 3 in stock.. well 2 now I just put in an Order |
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USA
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:03:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001: Pretty sure you can't give NSW rattle can advice if yours isn't rattle canned. Just sayin' I’ve painted other stuff
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:04:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013: I’ve painted other stuff Just not the right stuff. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:05:46 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By minion42: @Dobs031 Ha awesome. Reminds me: is that rifle a clone of a specific gun, or a general NSW recce? I cloned this rifle... 
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:06:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001: Just not the right stuff. Damnit, I know 
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:08:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013: Originally Posted By minion42: @Dobs031 Ha awesome. Reminds me: is that rifle a clone of a specific gun, or a general NSW recce? I cloned this rifle... https://i.imgur.com/jHziMZF.jpg Shits probably Japanese airsoft bro. Picture taken during their annual penis fest |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:11:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Aem5 mount a1 or a2 My friends and I have played with the flash hider mounts over the last several years and we always come to the same conclusion - they hurt accuracy. Different guns, shooters of a known quality, when we switch from the brakes to the flash hiders the groups ALWAYS open up enough to notice. We have done this too many times to coincidental. Go back 15-20 yrs all the accuracy that OPS/AE came known for was when using the brakes. I'd rather not have AE flash hider mounts, because I think they can only hurt the reputation of AE, so I rather not sell them. I do offer an aftermarket A1 flash hider mount, so when your groups open up you can blame the 3rd party product and not the AE piece. If people really want, I can ask Ron to make more flash hider mounts, but you are better off without them. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:15:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: My friends and I have played with the flash hider mounts over the last several years and we always come to the same conclusion - they hurt accuracy. Different guns, shooters of a known quality, when we switch from the brakes to the flash hiders the groups ALWAYS open up enough to notice. We have done this too many times to coincidental. Go back 15-20 yrs all the accuracy that OPS/AE came known for was when using the brakes. I'd rather not have AE flash hider mounts, because I think they can only hurt the reputation of AE, so I rather not sell them. I do offer an aftermarket A1 flash hider mount, so when your groups open up you can blame the 3rd party product and not the AE piece. If people really want, I can ask Ron to make more flash hider mounts, but you are better off without them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Aem5 mount a1 or a2 My friends and I have played with the flash hider mounts over the last several years and we always come to the same conclusion - they hurt accuracy. Different guns, shooters of a known quality, when we switch from the brakes to the flash hiders the groups ALWAYS open up enough to notice. We have done this too many times to coincidental. Go back 15-20 yrs all the accuracy that OPS/AE came known for was when using the brakes. I'd rather not have AE flash hider mounts, because I think they can only hurt the reputation of AE, so I rather not sell them. I do offer an aftermarket A1 flash hider mount, so when your groups open up you can blame the 3rd party product and not the AE piece. If people really want, I can ask Ron to make more flash hider mounts, but you are better off without them. Interesting. Do they hurt accuracy with or without the can on? I've only ever run them on shorties so I didn't notice a difference. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:19:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Shits probably Japanese airsoft bro. Picture taken during their annual penis fest Naaahhhhhh, you just talking crazy...Hahahaha |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:19:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Interesting. Do they hurt accuracy with or without the can on? I've only ever run them on shorties so I didn't notice a difference. Never shot them without the can. I definitely would not use the flash hider mount on a shorty. That's a lot of pressure on a blast baffle that is supposed to have a brake in front of it. The guys who run OPS cans on shorties with flash hiders turn that blast baffle from convex to concave. AE/OPS cans were meant to be used with the brake. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:31:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Never shot them without the can. I definitely would not use the flash hider mount on a shorty. That's a lot of pressure on a blast baffle that is supposed to have a brake in front of it. The guys who run OPS cans on shorties with flash hiders turn that blast baffle from convex to concave. AE/OPS cans were meant to be used with the brake. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Interesting. Do they hurt accuracy with or without the can on? I've only ever run them on shorties so I didn't notice a difference. Never shot them without the can. I definitely would not use the flash hider mount on a shorty. That's a lot of pressure on a blast baffle that is supposed to have a brake in front of it. The guys who run OPS cans on shorties with flash hiders turn that blast baffle from convex to concave. AE/OPS cans were meant to be used with the brake. Well shit. And of course you don't have any brakes in stock LOL |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:32:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Well shit. And of course you don't have any brakes in stock LOL Those should be along in a week or so. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:33:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Never shot them without the can. I definitely would not use the flash hider mount on a shorty. That's a lot of pressure on a blast baffle that is supposed to have a brake in front of it. The guys who run OPS cans on shorties with flash hiders turn that blast baffle from convex to concave. AE/OPS cans were meant to be used with the brake. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Interesting. Do they hurt accuracy with or without the can on? I've only ever run them on shorties so I didn't notice a difference. Never shot them without the can. I definitely would not use the flash hider mount on a shorty. That's a lot of pressure on a blast baffle that is supposed to have a brake in front of it. The guys who run OPS cans on shorties with flash hiders turn that blast baffle from convex to concave. AE/OPS cans were meant to be used with the brake. I’ll be mostly shooting 100yrds 95% of the time maybe 300 at most.. Would I see any significant amount with the Flash Hider..?? |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:38:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Into_the_Void]
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Those should be along in a week or so. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Well shit. And of course you don't have any brakes in stock LOL Those should be along in a week or so. I just sent an email to Ron to pester him. He never got back to me on my collar request a couple weeks ago. As always, thanks for the great info Steve. I love reading your input on this stuff since you've been in this game for so long. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:39:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SSOUNN: I’ll be mostly shooting 100yrds 95% of the time maybe 300 at most.. Would I see any significant amount with the Flash Hider..?? I don't know how good of a shot you are, but I would notice. Using a flash hider mount at 100yds you'll hit a tennis ball more often than you will hit a golf ball, where using the brake you should be hitting a golf ball every time. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:41:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SSOUNN]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: I don't know how good of a shot you are, but I would notice. Using a flash hider mount at 100yds you'll hit a tennis ball more often than you will hit a golf ball, where using the brake you should be hitting a golf ball every time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By SSOUNN: I’ll be mostly shooting 100yrds 95% of the time maybe 300 at most.. Would I see any significant amount with the Flash Hider..?? I don't know how good of a shot you are, but I would notice. Using a flash hider mount at 100yds you'll hit a tennis ball more often than you will hit a golf ball, where using the brake you should be hitting a golf ball every time. Let’s just say I AINT AT GOLF BALL Level yet.. lmao.. I once did the MOA ALL DAY Challenge I was averaging out at 1-5”-2” so I’m getting there.. I kinda want to do what SDMF_Rebel do. I think he said something about shoot it without cleaning the bore.. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:57:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: I just sent an email to Ron to pester him. He never got back to me on my collar request a couple weeks ago. As always, thanks for the great info Steve. I love reading your input on this stuff since you've been in this game for so long. Back when XM193 was $1.50 a box, we were taking cases out every weekend and making all the different OPS cans glow. The only down side to shooting a brake on a real short 7-8" barrel is it WILL peel out the flanges on the brakes making it impossible to remove the can. A couple cans we cut apart here, and a few I sent back to Ron to rebuild. They never failed, but they were whooped. With at least an 11.5" barrel with a brake mounted can you will never have to worry about anything. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:04:55 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Back when XM193 was $1.50 a box, we were taking cases out every weekend and making all the different OPS cans glow. The only down side to shooting a brake on a real short 7-8" barrel is it WILL peel out the flanges on the brakes making it impossible to remove the can. A couple cans we cut apart here, and a few I sent back to Ron to rebuild. They never failed, but they were whooped. With at least an 11.5" barrel with a brake mounted can you will never have to worry about anything. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: I just sent an email to Ron to pester him. He never got back to me on my collar request a couple weeks ago. As always, thanks for the great info Steve. I love reading your input on this stuff since you've been in this game for so long. Back when XM193 was $1.50 a box, we were taking cases out every weekend and making all the different OPS cans glow. The only down side to shooting a brake on a real short 7-8" barrel is it WILL peel out the flanges on the brakes making it impossible to remove the can. A couple cans we cut apart here, and a few I sent back to Ron to rebuild. They never failed, but they were whooped. With at least an 11.5" barrel with a brake mounted can you will never have to worry about anything. Shortest I go with the aem5 is 12.5 Shoot me a message/email when you get brakes |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:34:36 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: My friends and I have played with the flash hider mounts over the last several years and we always come to the same conclusion - they hurt accuracy. Different guns, shooters of a known quality, when we switch from the brakes to the flash hiders the groups ALWAYS open up enough to notice. We have done this too many times to coincidental. Go back 15-20 yrs all the accuracy that OPS/AE came known for was when using the brakes. I'd rather not have AE flash hider mounts, because I think they can only hurt the reputation of AE, so I rather not sell them. I do offer an aftermarket A1 flash hider mount, so when your groups open up you can blame the 3rd party product and not the AE piece. If people really want, I can ask Ron to make more flash hider mounts, but you are better off without them. I would most certainly be interested in a mount @bigbore Ron got back with me about the SuperCollsr (patent pending ) for the 20" so the dream lives on!
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Posted: 4/20/2020 10:16:10 PM EDT
[#27]
Hearing that about the flash hiders is disappointing. Has me reconsidering using this one on a build
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2020 10:23:50 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2: Hearing that about the flash hiders is disappointing. Has me reconsidering using this one on a build https://i.imgur.com/r0rtHXO.jpg My wife's recce-ish (not a clone just a 16" w/AEM5 mount) uses the Smith Vortex version. I'll be swapping her over to a brake when they're back in stock at Adco. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 10:33:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KGLaw]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Those should be along in a week or so. Collars coming too I assume? Have you ever stocked his 30 cal brakes? |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 10:50:01 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2: Hearing that about the flash hiders is disappointing. Has me reconsidering using this one on a build https://i.imgur.com/r0rtHXO.jpg Send it to me. Can't have cans here anyway. 
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Posted: 4/21/2020 6:39:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bigbore]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex: Collars coming too I assume? Have you ever stocked his 30 cal brakes? Collars were ordered with the brakes. https://adcofirearms.com/shop/categories/silencers/aemb-mount-30/ |
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Posted: 4/21/2020 6:51:55 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2: Hearing that about the flash hiders is disappointing. Has me reconsidering using this one on a build https://i.imgur.com/r0rtHXO.jpg Ha, that's cool that you still have my old upper @cjwwd2 Remember, without the flash hider mount, you'll get a few less turns on the can. The flash hider has more thread than the brake. That's one of the tricks that made that setup work. |
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Posted: 4/21/2020 7:39:04 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Collars were ordered with the brakes. https://adcofirearms.com/shop/categories/silencers/aemb-mount-30/ Now how have I missed that? Thanks for the link. |
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Posted: 4/21/2020 12:25:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Ha, that's cool that you still have my old upper @cjwwd2 Remember, without the flash hider mount, you'll get a few less turns on the can. The flash hider has more thread than the brake. That's one of the tricks that made that setup work. I'm so behind on putting all my builds together, it's crazy I'll remember that. In reality the suppressor would still be seated at the same spot, just less thread engagement, right? Or am I not thinking correctly |
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Posted: 4/21/2020 12:37:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2: I'm so behind on putting all my builds together, it's crazy I'll remember that. In reality the suppressor would still be seated at the same spot, just less thread engagement, right? Or am I not thinking correctly Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Ha, that's cool that you still have my old upper @cjwwd2 Remember, without the flash hider mount, you'll get a few less turns on the can. The flash hider has more thread than the brake. That's one of the tricks that made that setup work. I'm so behind on putting all my builds together, it's crazy I'll remember that. In reality the suppressor would still be seated at the same spot, just less thread engagement, right? Or am I not thinking correctly You got it right. That was a bastard setup that shouldn't have worked. Combo of custom collar, BA fucking up the step location, and running a flash hider w/ the extended threads AND spacer from aemb mount. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2020 2:42:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MS556]
[#36]
What about the flash hider mount for KAC’s QDSS-NT4 can? Does this combo degrade accuracy? I believe they are clone correct for NSW SEAL Recce.
 I’m not clone correct in other respects at this point, but the Lilja barrel and the KAC M4Q5 FH produce stunning accuracy. Got the FH because I’m interested in the NT4. Was planning to put one in jail until this thread. |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 3:22:29 PM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 4/22/2020 3:42:56 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/220444/20200422_151932_jpg-1380926.JPG Yes!! I still think you need another mod 1
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Posted: 4/22/2020 4:47:12 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013: Yes!! I still think you need another mod 1 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/220444/20200422_151932_jpg-1380926.JPG Yes!! I still think you need another mod 1 Two is enough lol |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 4:52:54 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Two is enough lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Originally Posted By Dobs013: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/220444/20200422_151932_jpg-1380926.JPG Yes!! I still think you need another mod 1 Two is enough lol Try telling me that about Mod 0s.  Maybe it'll stick someday. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2020 3:05:17 PM EDT
[#41]
Page 3 bump
She's getting there 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2020 2:24:06 PM EDT
[#42]
Does anyone have pics of optics setups on MRE sticks other than Horrigan's? Gonna play around with it a little.
 
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Posted: 5/3/2020 12:47:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/3/2020 12:53:29 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49850401578_ca3e129b45_h.jpg Majestic AF. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/3/2020 8:51:53 PM EDT
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2020 1:51:31 PM EDT
[#46]
Finally got to Zero the NSW after the D. Wilson Chop and Range finally ReOpened..
Started off Zeroing with the WOLF GOLD @100yrds   Then first Shots ( IN WHITE ) MagTech 77gr, then Black Hill 77gr, last was from the IMI Razor Core 77gr  Wolf Gold was from the MK12 Mod 1 before I finally got to changed out to a new target.. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2020 2:33:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SSOUNN: Finally got to Zero the NSW after the D. Wilson Chop and Range finally ReOpened.. Started off Zeroing with the WOLF GOLD @100yrds https://i.postimg.cc/NFCZpbhP/11-EEFF5-E-56-B5-49-FF-8-A12-CC21730-F6-F35.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/RVfjc7sG/8819-F69-F-7134-41-EC-9-E22-13-D9-D24-BB6-A4.jpg Then first Shots ( IN WHITE ) MagTech 77gr, then Black Hill 77gr, last was from the IMI Razor Core 77gr https://i.postimg.cc/05hTMWfb/C07-B5382-2512-462-F-86-AA-A2-AC278-FFAF9.jpg Wolf Gold was from the MK12 Mod 1 before I finally got to changed out to a new target.. Mag tech always seems to shoot better than the other two and has a substantially better vertical spread, which usually means low SD. I personally have never seen BH shoot decent. It's fast yes, but it's not always the most accurate. Always wonder why people hold it to such a high standard. |
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Posted: 5/5/2020 2:36:41 PM EDT
[#48]
Those are some dickass groups except for the IMI.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2020 2:46:24 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Those are some dickass groups except for the IMI. Yeah I’m not a great shoot either.. lol But with the MagTech I was Zeroing in after the fact I was already on paper with the Wolf Gold.. I just never did another 10shot group with it before I swapped to the MK12 Mod 1.. Now that I somewhat got it Zeroed I’ll do an accuracy test maybe over the weekend.. @EyeKhan yeah for some reason BH 77gr never shot well with both rifles.. IMI in the other hand did WONDERS right out the box.. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2020 12:27:14 PM EDT
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Can anyone with a 16” NSW style Recce give me weights with and/or without optic and AEM5?
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