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Posted: 3/16/2014 2:38:14 AM EDT
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When discussing the Mk 18 / CQBR program, we can divide the history and discussion in to two distinct categories: 1) The weapon system itself / upper receiver supplied and 2) the group of accessories deployed on said weapon systems (SOPMOD).
---------- Mk 18 Mod 0 / CQBR The M4 carbine and M16 are not ideally suited for all missions, so it was proposed that the modularity of the M16 series would allow a user to replace the upper receiver of an existing weapon with one more suitable to the task. One of two proposed special mission receivers that were planned for inclusion into the SOPMOD Block II kit, the CQBR has taken off on its own. Like the proposed Special Purpose Receiver, the Close Quarters Battle Receiver has been more or less taken on by the Naval Surface Warfare Center, Crane Division (often referred to as NSWC-Crane or just "Crane") as its own project following the CQBR's removal from the SOPMOD program. Just as the Special Purpose Receiver morphed into the Special Purpose Rifle, and was type-classified as Mk 12 Mod 0/1, the complete CQBR-equipped carbine has been type-classified as the Mk 18 Mod 0. The purpose of the CQBR remains to provide operators with a weapon of submachine gun size, but firing a rifle cartridge, for scenarios such as VIP protection, urban warfare, and other close quarters battle (CQB) situations. The CQBR is designed to provide improvement over previous AR-15/M16-type weapons in this category. The CQBR is usually issued as a complete weapon system, and not just an upper receiver. The CQBR was once only available to Naval Special Warfare units, but the Mk 18 Mod 0 has become general issue for Visit, Board, Search, and Seizure (VBSS) missions and, as of 2006, for NCIS agents deploying to active combat zones.[citation needed] The Mk 18 is also used by the Coast Guard's Tactical Law Enforcement Teams, Maritime Safety and Security Teams, and Maritime Security Response Team and the United States Navy's Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) Operators. Wikipedia has a good article with sources on the original CQBR/Mk 18 Mod 0 and its development. ---------- SOPMOD The SOPMOD Program Management Office at NSWC Crane, IN, provides standardized, versatile weapons accessories to meet needs across SOF mission scenarios. These accessories increase operator survivability and lethality by enhanced weapon performance, target acquisition, signature suppression, and fire control. The CQBR itself was originally part of the SOPMOD program as an accessory replacement upper receiver for the M4. However it was eventually separated out into its own project. SOPMOD accessories for the M4/CQBR originally included things like the KAC RIS/RAS, SOPMOD stock, KAC M4QD suppressor, AN/PEQ-2 illuminator/laser, ECOS-N red dot, ACOG, etc The SOPMOD program has gone through multiple minor and major evolutions throughout its lifetime. The most significant is commonly defined as "Block II" and included the introduction/replacement of accessories that met the updated needs of operators. The most visually significant "Block II" accessory is probably the replacement of the KAC rail/FSB with the Daniel Defense RIS II free float rail with low-profile gas block. Other updates include things like the Surefire SOCOM sound suppressor, EOTech RDS (553/SU-231 & EXPS 3-0/SU-231a), LA-5/PEQ ATPIAL, etc ---------- Link to docs and photo albums Presentation on CQBR from Crane Operator's Manual for Mk 18 Mod 0 SOPMOD Program Overview presentation from Crane Photo Album of Mk 18 Mod 0 Photo Album of CQBR with SOPMOD Block II accessories ---------- Because of the long history of both the CQBR/Mk 18 and SOPMOD programs, it's common to find weapons with various mixed configurations in the field, all depending on what time and unit the weapon system belongs to. Below are a few examples with descriptions to illustrate this. Example of a Mk 18 Mod 0 in as-issued configuration including: M16A1 surplus lower receiver, SOPMOD buttstock, KAC RIS, KAC M4QD flash hider, Aimpoint Comp M2 in Wilcox mount, LMT rear fixed sight, CQD rear sling plate. NSW Operator CQBRs with original SOPMOD accessories including KAC M4QD sound suppressor and AN/PEQ-2 IR Illuminator/Laser. Member of a Combat Camera team with a CQBR with KAC RAS and M4QD flash hider but with other updated accessories from the "Block II" SOPMOD kit including SU-231a (EOTech EXPS 3-0), EOTech G33 Magnifier, LA-5/PEQ ATPIAL, Insight WMX-200. Good example of "early" CQBR with SOPMOD Block II accessories including SU-231 (EOTech 553) and SU-233 (Insight M3x weaponlight). Example of a more "modern" CQBR with SOPMOD Block II accessories including the updated SU-231a (EOTech EXPS 3-0) and Insight WMX-200 weaponlight. Many times certain configurations are common within certain branches/groups. Here a Marine Raider is seen with a CQBR with an AN/PEQ-16 (USMC issued vs. the LA-5/PEQ SOCOM issued ATPIAL) and KAC NT4 suppressor (vs. the current Surefire SOCOM suppressor). ---------- Building a clone If you're interested in building a "clone" of a Mk 18 or CQBR equipped M4A1, here is a basic parts list to use as a guide and get you started. This list is not exhaustive and see the * note above regarding personalized accessories. | Mk 18 Mod 0 | M4A1 CQBR Block I | M4A1 CQBR Block II Lower Receiver | Mil-spec forged A1 | Mil-spec forged A2 | Mil-spec forged A2 Stock | Gen 1 SOPMOD (Black) | M4, CAR, SOPMOD, CTR & others | M4, CAR, SOPMOD, CTR & others Pistol Grip | A1 | A2, ERGO & others | A2, ERGO & others Rear Sling Plate | CQD | CQD | CQD Upper Receiver | Mil-spec forged M4 profile | Mil-spec forged M4 profile | Mil-spec forged M4 profile Barrel | 10.3" | 10.3" | 10.3" Rail | KAC RIS | KAC RAS | DD Mk18 RIS II (FDE) Rear BUIS | LMT Fixed | LMT Fixed, MATECH, & others | MATECH, KAC 300m, & others Front Sight | A2 FSB | A2 FSB | KAC 99051 BUIS (Taupe) Front Sling Attachment | FSB Sling Swivel | FSB Sling Swivel | CQD Muzzle Device | KAC M4QD | KAC M4QD | SureFire FH-556-RC Supressor | None | KAC QDSS NT4 | SureFire SOCOM556-RC (FDE) LAM | None | PEQ-2 | LA-5 Weaponlight | SureFire M962 | SureFire M952, M962 | Insight M3X (Tan), Insight WMX200 (Bronze) Optic | Aimpoint Comp M2 in Wilcox Mount | Aimpoint Comp M2 in QRP Mount, ACOG | EOTech 553 (Tan), EOTech EXPS3-0 (Tan), ELCAN 1-4x (FDE) ---------- Link to previous threads Previous Mk 18 / CQBR Thread Part I Previous Mk 18 / CQBR Thread Part II |
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Originally Posted By krdt:
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By krdt:
ETA1: Ack, I really hate to be a prick, but: http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/surefire-m300-mini-scout-500lum-tn/ SF M300C Tan $219 |
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Holy shizznit batman. Ill take 10 of them bitches plz & thx View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By krdt:
ETA1: Ack, I really hate to be a prick, but: http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/surefire-m300-mini-scout-500lum-tn/ SF M300C Tan $219 |
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Originally Posted By krdt:
Got my BRT .070 gas port insert installed last night in the Mod 0. If you've ever wondered if getting an FSB off a painted barrel is a pain in the ass: yes, yes it kinda is. Suppose I'll have to repaint forward of the RAS at some point. Anyway, I haven't shot it yet, but I'm definitely looking forward to trying it out next week sometime. Hopefully it'll finally shoot as soft - maybe even softer - than the CQBR :D. For anyone curious, I measured while I had it apart and the stock Noveske N4 10.5 gas port is right around .080. Kinda annoyed that the Noveske CS rep basically misled me. I called them before I decided to purchase to ask about the gas port size, and while they claimed the info was "proprietary", I asked was it closer to Crane spec .070 or DD .082 and he indicated it was closer to Crane. I also specifically asked, "I know you can't say outright, but it's nothing huge like the DD .082 port, right?" and he said, "Oh, no, no." Sounds like he probably had no clue the size and instead just agreed with whatever he thought I wanted to hear. I would've preferred he just said he didn't know, but whatta-ya-gonna-do? A few pics: .080 vs .070... funny the difference .01 can make: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_6968.JPG Drilling out the gas port between the barrel and gas tube: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_6984.JPG Getting ready to drill the FSB base between the sling swivel ears to clear the tap body: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_6999.JPG Tapping the port for the insert: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_7003.JPGhttp://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_7006.JPG Insert installed and being test fit for gas tube clearance: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_7032.JPG Test fitting FSB for barrel clearance, all is GTG: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_7048.JPG The Magpul BEV block makes a very passable FSB block as well ;p. http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_7056.JPG All done save for reinstalling the RAS and optic :D. http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_7059.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Alaska511:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Got my BRT .070 gas port insert installed last night in the Mod 0. If you've ever wondered if getting an FSB off a painted barrel is a pain in the ass: yes, yes it kinda is. Suppose I'll have to repaint forward of the RAS at some point. Anyway, I haven't shot it yet, but I'm definitely looking forward to trying it out next week sometime. Hopefully it'll finally shoot as soft - maybe even softer - than the CQBR :D. For anyone curious, I measured while I had it apart and the stock Noveske N4 10.5 gas port is right around .080. Kinda annoyed that the Noveske CS rep basically misled me. I called them before I decided to purchase to ask about the gas port size, and while they claimed the info was "proprietary", I asked was it closer to Crane spec .070 or DD .082 and he indicated it was closer to Crane. I also specifically asked, "I know you can't say outright, but it's nothing huge like the DD .082 port, right?" and he said, "Oh, no, no." Sounds like he probably had no clue the size and instead just agreed with whatever he thought I wanted to hear. I would've preferred he just said he didn't know, but whatta-ya-gonna-do? A few pics: .080 vs .070... funny the difference .01 can make: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_6968.JPG Drilling out the gas port between the barrel and gas tube: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_6984.JPG Getting ready to drill the FSB base between the sling swivel ears to clear the tap body: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_6999.JPG Tapping the port for the insert: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_7003.JPGhttp://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_7006.JPG Insert installed and being test fit for gas tube clearance: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_7032.JPG Test fitting FSB for barrel clearance, all is GTG: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_7048.JPG The Magpul BEV block makes a very passable FSB block as well ;p. http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_7056.JPG All done save for reinstalling the RAS and optic :D. http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/BRT/IMG_7059.JPG |
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Originally Posted By krdt: No problem. I hesitated even posting it since you already ordered, but figured what the hell, might help someone. BTW: Use the code "TANGO" with IWC and the shipping is free on the M300C. View Quote |
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Maybe I'm crazy, but I've been getting my SR07s from Amazon for $30 shipped.
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Originally Posted By vanquishings:
Maybe I'm crazy, but I've been getting my SR07s from Amazon for $30 shipped. View Quote https://www.amazon.com/Mil-Spec-Activation-Platform-Scoutlight-WeaponLights/dp/B001V2P8X0/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1520812058&sr=1-1&keywords=sr07 |
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I control my guns just fine on my own, thanks.
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Save one for me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By krdt:
ETA1: Ack, I really hate to be a prick, but: http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/surefire-m300-mini-scout-500lum-tn/ SF M300C Tan $219 That shits tempting tho. One day I will be made of money, and one day I will send you one. It may take a while but you know I come through in the end. |
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I'm considering getting a used eotech 'n' cell 511. Is $250 reasonable?
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I control my guns just fine on my own, thanks.
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
But then I'd need 11..... That shits tempting tho. One day I will be made of money, and one day I will send you one. It may take a while but you know I come through in the end. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By krdt:
ETA1: Ack, I really hate to be a prick, but: http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/surefire-m300-mini-scout-500lum-tn/ SF M300C Tan $219 That shits tempting tho. One day I will be made of money, and one day I will send you one. It may take a while but you know I come through in the end. Mmm, 500 lumens of Surefire lighty goodness and almost 2oz lighter than the M600 you have now at 200 lumens. *whispers* Do it... doooo it. |
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
But then I'd need 11..... That shits tempting tho. One day I will be made of money, and one day I will send you one. It may take a while but you know I come through in the end. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By krdt:
ETA1: Ack, I really hate to be a prick, but: http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/surefire-m300-mini-scout-500lum-tn/ SF M300C Tan $219 That shits tempting tho. One day I will be made of money, and one day I will send you one. It may take a while but you know I come through in the end. |
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I would say thats the max I'd pay. I would try to be at 200 tho View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By krdt: You sure you're not thinking of the ST07? Only SR07 I can find on Amazon is $97. https://www.amazon.com/Mil-Spec-Activation-Platform-Scoutlight-WeaponLights/dp/B001V2P8X0/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1520812058&sr=1-1&keywords=sr07 View Quote |
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Originally Posted By vanquishings:
I'll see myself out.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By vanquishings:
Originally Posted By krdt: You sure you're not thinking of the ST07? Only SR07 I can find on Amazon is $97. https://www.amazon.com/Mil-Spec-Activation-Platform-Scoutlight-WeaponLights/dp/B001V2P8X0/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1520812058&sr=1-1&keywords=sr07 |
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Originally Posted By krdt: Lol... for a brief moment I hoped you'd found the pressure switch promised land. A fabled land where a man can drink his fill and buy pressure switches for 65% off :p. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By vanquishings:
A place where you can find insight dual switches for nothing. A place where they make streamlight dual switches. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By vanquishings:
Originally Posted By krdt: Lol... for a brief moment I hoped you'd found the pressure switch promised land. A fabled land where a man can drink his fill and buy pressure switches for 65% off :p. |
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Originally Posted By krdt: I don't know how that post turned into a mini installation guide. I originally was just going to post the .080 to .070 comparison and the shot of the insert installed, but then I started going through all the pictures I took and things took a turn, lol. View Quote |
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I control my guns just fine on my own, thanks.
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Originally Posted By TigerHawk:
You all are not good influences for my wallet. have these two builds off to a good start. Getting them sighted in while I save for the other accessories. Anyone have a KAC 99051 Taupe front sight they would sell? looking for one of the darker chocolate brown sights. Thanks. https://i.imgur.com/vJqopKw.jpg View Quote |
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I bought one of those IWC M300C's - good deal but be prepared to wait, took almost two weeks to get it. I guess that's not the end of the world but when your used to 2 or 3 day shipping these days waiting that long was annoying lol.
I also found at my LGS an lightly used original M300 Tan the same day my M300C arrived, and I believe I prefer the original. Sure the new one is 500 vs 300, but the 300 actually seems to light up better/more natural. The 500 is just kind of a small spot of bright light, while the 300 opens up a bit more and not as "white". Plus the older one is not all jackson pollack tan lol. Anyway the older one I put on my BKII, the newer one I guess I'll use on my Mk18's or something. I also have a black M600 I use on my "standard" run of the mill BCM/Centurian setup AR as well. Or, maybe I swap the 600 and new one around, 600 probably better for the longer MK12's. Anyway there's a good thread on the differences here - AR15.com thread on 500 vs 300 M300 - But I think it might just boil down to inside old version is better/outside new version is better, generally speaking. Original Tan New 500 Lumen Tan M600 |
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
There are a considerable amount of things in this world that give me a chub. One of them is that FSP 14.5, and another is that block 2 CQBR. View Quote |
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Can somebody please repost the picture from the first page of the topic
"Member of a Combat Camera team with a CQBR with KAC RAS and M4QD flash hider but with other updated accessories from the "Block II" SOPMOD kit including SU-231a (EOTech EXPS 3-0), EOTech G33 Magnifier, LA-5/PEQ ATPIAL, Insight WMX-200." |
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Originally Posted By Macpw:
Can somebody please repost the picture from the first page of the topic "Member of a Combat Camera team with a CQBR with KAC RAS and M4QD flash hider but with other updated accessories from the "Block II" SOPMOD kit including SU-231a (EOTech EXPS 3-0), EOTech G33 Magnifier, LA-5/PEQ ATPIAL, Insight WMX-200." View Quote Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By cjwwd2: Probably these. One of my favorite setups. I have one with a FF RAS https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/272939/XIEYH7n-479966.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/272939/TtBobB2-479967.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/272939/SxuJp2H-479969.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By cjwwd2: Probably these. One of my favorite setups. I have one with a FF RAS https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/272939/XIEYH7n-479966.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/272939/TtBobB2-479967.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/272939/SxuJp2H-479969.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Outrider: Always been a fan of that set of pictures. View Quote Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By cjwwd2: Me too. I think these are a couple more https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/272939/hhY7brB-480065.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/272939/lRibhvj-480066.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By mzincamo:
My post count is still too low to embed pictures I think but I updated a little bit here. Got the Colt upper on there now and in the long wait for the SBR stamp to come back...hard enough in Illinois as it is, lol. Need to decide on a flashlight...liking the Surefires but not sure how common they are. https://i.imgur.com/UwNTKSS.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Outrider:
Block 2 accessories on a block 1 is most excellent. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Outrider:
Originally Posted By cjwwd2: Me too. I think these are a couple more https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/272939/hhY7brB-480065.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/272939/lRibhvj-480066.JPG |
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Need to hit the range. Shown with two Mk16 SCAR mags loaded with Mk262 Mod 1 77gr OTM. Scope is off a RCL here
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Need to hit the range. Shown with two Mk16 SCAR mags loaded with Mk262 Mod 1 77gr OTM. Scope is off a RCL here https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_4802-480957.JPG CD View Quote Whos the manufacturer of that scope? How is the eye relief on that thing? |
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Originally Posted By NickOTime:
I love the look of non issued issued parts on Sopmod guns. Also now I don't feel so bad rocking an ECOS calibrated for a 14.5 gun on my 10.3. Whos the manufacturer of that scope? How is the eye relief on that thing? View Quote CD |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Its a Swedish manufacture I believe. Scope been in SF inventory since the early 90s, just not part of the SOPMOD program. Eye relief is short. CD View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
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I love the look of non issued issued parts on Sopmod guns. Also now I don't feel so bad rocking an ECOS calibrated for a 14.5 gun on my 10.3. Whos the manufacturer of that scope? How is the eye relief on that thing? CD It is speaking to me. |
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I control my guns just fine on my own, thanks.
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
3x https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/Carl_G_mod_demo-481007.JPG CD View Quote |
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I thought that thing looked familiar, yet very out of place View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
3x https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/Carl_G_mod_demo-481007.JPG CD |
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Love this rifle. My favorite build for sure. Where are you guys finding good deals on the exps 3-0? Is like to put the correct eotech on her. If anybody has a lead on a tan, Msg or tag me thanks.
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I control my guns just fine on my own, thanks.
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Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
I was curious about the ti-7 stock. Have these been spotted in the wild like vltor IMODs or magpul ctr's? Any itw pics around? And what are your thoughts on it/ how does it compare to a b5 or lmt sopmod? Ex. Length of pull, angle of cheek rest, weight...etc. thank u in advance. http://i.imgur.com/Zn7aDR4.jpg View Quote |
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I have the B5, the LMT sopmod, and that stock above. It's amazing. By far on par or better than the aforementioned. I'd post pics but photo buckets sucks cocks now and I'm lazy. Do it.
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^Nice. That coyote has an orange hue to it. The price point isn't bad either ($70). I may check one out to see how it feels. Thank you.
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