LMT SOPMOD Buttstock vs RRA Operator Stock Kit

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - LMT SOPMOD Buttstock vs RRA Operator Stock Kit

Posted: 8/2/2009 1:07:50 PM EDT

Has anyone handled these and, can there be that profound difference between the 2
I realize the LMT is mil-spec and RRA is commercial, but up-wards of a $ 130 dollars difference, (complete) Thats
getting a hard pill to swallow. Thanks

Posted: 8/2/2009 1:13:02 PM EDT

[#1]

LMT all day. Worth every penny.

You might want to also consider waiting for Magpul to release the ACS stock. Google it, its probably more of what you are looking for than a CTR or a MOE.

Posted: 8/2/2009 1:24:50 PM EDT

[#2]

I've got 2 SOPMOD stocks, I freaking love them. I've also got an ACS backordered for when they start shipping. If you decide to wait for the MAGPUL since they are supposed to cost less, go ahead and order it, otherwise you'll be left wanting one badly and none will be in stock––then you'll end up overpaying for somebody elses, most likely. The LMT's are worth every penny, though, I promise you.

Posted: 8/2/2009 1:50:55 PM EDT

[#3]

What does the ACS cost?

Posted: 8/2/2009 2:16:20 PM EDT

[#4]

LMT sopmod rocks. I just received one on my new piston gun from LMT and it is really nice. That being said, MAGPUL is GTG. It seems like everything they touch is gold but good luck finding their stuff, especially their stocks.

Posted: 8/2/2009 2:19:11 PM EDT

[#5]

Not that you need another product to look at but the VLTOR EMod is similar might be worth a look here.

Posted: 8/2/2009 2:21:58 PM EDT

[#6]

The $20.00 alternative.

http://dynamicarmament.com/items/ar15-accessories/command-arms-accessories/caa-stock-saddle-caastocksaddle-detail.htm

Posted: 8/2/2009 2:46:33 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
The $20.00 alternative.

http://dynamicarmament.com/images/commandarms/commandarmsaddle.jpg

http://dynamicarmament.com/items/ar15-accessories/command-arms-accessories/caa-stock-saddle-caastocksaddle-detail.htm

and it is still a sloppy fit buttstock with extra crap on it..............and yes I have 2 in my "junk" parts box.

Posted: 8/2/2009 2:54:08 PM EDT

[#8]

LMT SOPMOD is the best stock we own. Worth the money.

Posted: 8/2/2009 3:31:22 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
LMT SOPMOD is the best stock we own. Worth the money.

This without question. After you have a SOPMOD you will not even think about others.

Posted: 8/2/2009 3:46:32 PM EDT

[#10]

LMT Sopmod.

Posted: 8/2/2009 3:50:15 PM EDT

[#11]

Never tried the RRA, but the I've tried most others and keep coming back to the SOPMOD. It's just a damn good stock.

Posted: 8/2/2009 3:50:59 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
I've got 2 SOPMOD stocks, I freaking love them. I've also got an ACS backordered for when they start shipping. If you decide to wait for the MAGPUL since they are supposed to cost less, go ahead and order it, otherwise you'll be left wanting one badly and none will be in stock––then you'll end up overpaying for somebody elses, most likely. The LMT's are worth every penny, though, I promise you.

Where'd you backorder the ACS from as Magpul's site says it's not taking stock orders?

Posted: 8/2/2009 3:55:59 PM EDT

[#13]

I've got 3 SOPMODs. For me it's the best stock out there.

Posted: 8/2/2009 6:47:25 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
I've got 3 SOPMODs. For me it's the best stock out there.

Got you beat. I got 4 and they are the only stock I would put on my ARs besides a CTR and an UBR.

Posted: 8/2/2009 6:56:29 PM EDT

[#15]

I tried several and chose the LMT.I like the cheekweld,fit to my LMT lower,and the $100 price tag wasn't bad either

Posted: 8/2/2009 7:05:15 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:

The $20.00 alternative.

http://dynamicarmament.com/images/commandarms/commandarmsaddle.jpg

http://dynamicarmament.com/items/ar15-accessories/command-arms-accessories/caa-stock-saddle-caastocksaddle-detail.htm

and it is still a sloppy fit buttstock with extra crap on it..............and yes I have 2 in my "junk" parts box.

Works just fine* for what it is ... useless.

Posted: 8/2/2009 7:35:11 PM EDT

[#17]

Do sopmods have a QD hole or do you have to buy some type of adapter?

Posted: 8/2/2009 7:38:54 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
Do sopmods have a QD hole or do you have to buy some type of adapter?

The new style has a push button swivel cup, old style does not.

Posted: 8/2/2009 7:40:33 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Do sopmods have a QD hole or do you have to buy some type of adapter?

The new style has a push button swivel cup, old style does not.

So Vltor QD HD swivels will plug right in?

Posted: 8/2/2009 7:42:26 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Do sopmods have a QD hole or do you have to buy some type of adapter?

The new style has a push button swivel cup, old style does not.

So Vltor QD HD swivels will plug right in?

If they're the push button type.

Posted: 8/2/2009 7:47:07 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Do sopmods have a QD hole or do you have to buy some type of adapter?

The new style has a push button swivel cup, old style does not.

So Vltor QD HD swivels will plug right in?

If they're the push button type.

they are. thanks for the help

Posted: 8/2/2009 7:50:04 PM EDT

[#22]

No problem. I snapped a quick pic of mine for you:

Posted: 8/2/2009 8:22:20 PM EDT

[#23]

SOPMOD FTW.

If you didn't know, it's made by none other than Knight's Armament (or Knight's Mfg?) for LMT.

Posted: 8/2/2009 8:27:29 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
No problem. I snapped a quick pic of mine for you:

http://i32.tinypic.com/211p001.jpg

sweet! Thanks again!

Posted: 8/2/2009 8:31:05 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
What does the ACS cost?

I believe it's going to be around $165.

Posted: 8/2/2009 9:12:19 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
SOPMOD FTW.

If you didn't know, it's made by none other than Knight's Armament (or Knight's Mfg?) for LMT.

You sure about that? Isn't it the other way around? All the SOPMODs I've seen are sold under the LMT brand besides the ones that come with KAC factory rifles. Either way, I agree that the SOPMOD has hands down the best in comfort and looks. It locks tight on most tubes and the only negative about it is that it's not as streamlined as the standard Gen II or CTR stocks when a single point is installed (due to sloping cheekpad). The ACR looks to be promising too (plus at a lower price) but who knows how long that's going to take. A mil-spec tube is required to use the SOPMOD. It sure is pricey but worth getting at least one for your most-used AR. Buy used on the EE (less chance of getting a fake by checking feedback) if money is an issue.

Posted: 8/3/2009 5:02:37 AM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What does the ACS cost?

I believe it's going to be around $165.

Thanks!

Posted: 8/3/2009 5:18:37 AM EDT

[#28]

Does anyone have an Operator to give the OP (and myself) an opinion on? They look solid
but if they rattle like a cheap, plastic collapsible it would be a deal breaker.

Posted: 8/3/2009 5:21:10 AM EDT

[#29]

The Sopmod is fairly priced when included with a defender lower ($100 extra vs the standard M4 stock). Buy itself I feel it is over priced.

BUT...while the check weld has a VERY nice feel to it, due to my NTCH, half my check was still on the extention tube.

Posted: 8/3/2009 6:50:18 AM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:
LMT SOPMOD is the best stock we own. Worth the money.

I have tried the Magpul UBR, CTR, MOE and the Vltor EMOD and yet nothing will ever replace the SOPMOD for me. It is by far my favorite stock, with the CTR being a distant second.

It truly makes the RRA look like a turd in comparison.

Posted: 8/3/2009 1:02:47 PM EDT

[#31]

I'm no AR expert,only a casual AR shooter so opted to go with the RRA operator. Until I just read this thread,I did'nt know what a SOPMOD is or half the other things I see abbreviated on this site

.
I'm sure there are better stock options out there but for what I need this one will work just fine.
Of the 4 adjustable stocks I now have,this one is the tightest and most comfortable to shoulder but I have yet to shoot this rifle. The others are just factory units,a Colt(AR15),Armalite(AR10) and DPMS(AP4 308). The DPMS stock is by far the worst piece of junk I've ever handled. If I even keep that rifle I'll eventually swap it out. The Colt and Armalite have some play but nothing that bothers me. This new RRA operator does have some play but much less than my others. I would say if your looking for a stock that has absolute zero play and is butt hole tight

then this is probably not the one you want.
I guess from what I read the RRA tube is commercial vs milspec? I assume this is a bad thing but again,I'm no expert. It will do what I need it too.

Posted: 8/3/2009 1:15:07 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
SOPMOD FTW.

If you didn't know, it's made by none other than Knight's Armament (or Knight's Mfg?) for LMT.

You sure about that? Isn't it the other way around? All the SOPMODs I've seen are sold under the LMT brand besides the ones that come with KAC factory rifles. Either way, I agree that the SOPMOD has hands down the best in comfort and looks. It locks tight on most tubes and the only negative about it is that it's not as streamlined as the standard Gen II or CTR stocks when a single point is installed (due to sloping cheekpad). The ACR looks to be promising too (plus at a lower price) but who knows how long that's going to take. A mil-spec tube is required to use the SOPMOD. It sure is pricey but worth getting at least one for your most-used AR. Buy used on the EE (less chance of getting a fake by checking feedback) if money is an issue.

Yup. LMT has the license from Crane, but KAC makes them for LMT and themselves, per Kevin Boland.

Posted: 8/3/2009 6:19:43 PM EDT

[#33]

Ok I get that the LMT is the next coming of Jesus, but how is it compared to a a RRA operator and is it worth an extra cash, I mean $ 130 Dollars. Is there a side by side comparison. I wish that the manufacture would provide more pictures of their product to be able to compare oranges to oranges (like NewEgg for computers provideing 5 to 10 Pics to allow you to look more at their porducts). Considering the cost of such products for the ar now days.

Posted: 8/3/2009 6:29:19 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:
I'm no AR expert,only a casual AR shooter so opted to go with the RRA operator. Until I just read this thread,I did'nt know what a SOPMOD is or half the other things I see abbreviated on this site

.
I'm sure there are better stock options out there but for what I need this one will work just fine.
Of the 4 adjustable stocks I now have,this one is the tightest and most comfortable to shoulder but I have yet to shoot this rifle. The others are just factory units,a Colt(AR15),Armalite(AR10) and DPMS(AP4 308). The DPMS stock is by far the worst piece of junk I've ever handled. If I even keep that rifle I'll eventually swap it out. The Colt and Armalite have some play but nothing that bothers me. This new RRA operator does have some play but much less than my others. I would say if your looking for a stock that has absolute zero play and is butt hole tight

then this is probably not the one you want.
I guess from what I read the RRA tube is commercial vs milspec? I assume this is a bad thing but again,I'm no expert. It will do what I need it too.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/M1Riflenut/gun%20pics/P1080816.jpg?t=1249332069

Nice looking weapon. No expertise needed to know what you like. I am happy with the SOPMOD, you seem to be just as happy with the RRA. It would be a boring world if everyone liked brunettes and no one dug redheads.

Posted: 8/3/2009 6:39:09 PM EDT

[#35]

Thanks catman2. i would like a comparison, anybody out their with a RRA operator that would like to way-in. Thanks

Posted: 8/3/2009 6:39:38 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:
I'm no AR expert,only a casual AR shooter so opted to go with the RRA operator. Until I just read this thread,I did'nt know what a SOPMOD is or half the other things I see abbreviated on this site

.
I'm sure there are better stock options out there but for what I need this one will work just fine.
Of the 4 adjustable stocks I now have,this one is the tightest and most comfortable to shoulder but I have yet to shoot this rifle. The others are just factory units,a Colt(AR15),Armalite(AR10) and DPMS(AP4 308). The DPMS stock is by far the worst piece of junk I've ever handled. If I even keep that rifle I'll eventually swap it out. The Colt and Armalite have some play but nothing that bothers me. This new RRA operator does have some play but much less than my others. I would say if your looking for a stock that has absolute zero play and is butt hole tight

then this is probably not the one you want.
I guess from what I read the RRA tube is commercial vs milspec? I assume this is a bad thing but again,I'm no expert. It will do what I need it too.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/M1Riflenut/gun%20pics/P1080816.jpg?t=1249332069

No. Its not a bad thing.

Posted: 8/3/2009 6:39:45 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:
LMT all day. Worth every penny.

You might want to also consider waiting for Magpul to release the ACS stock. Google it, its probably more of what you are looking for than a CTR or a MOE.

If their performance with the UBR stock is any indicator he'll be mounting that on a phaser. They can't even get any UBR stocks out the door and at least those are supposedly being produced.

Posted: 8/3/2009 6:55:58 PM EDT

[#38]

That's great but have you dealt with, touched, handled a RRA operator, that's all I'm asking. I have not dealt with either LMT or a RRA Operator, Is there a $130 difference in the product?
Doesn't that seem like alot ?

Posted: 8/3/2009 7:33:46 PM EDT

[#39]

for $130 difference i will be getting the operator. when rra first put it out it was $170 complete. after a couple of weeks it dropped $40.

here is the same thing that you are finding gunmetalgray. the lmt guys sure love their stocks.

linkabillaty.

Posted: 8/3/2009 8:05:47 PM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:
That's great but have you dealt with, touched, handled a RRA operator, that's all I'm asking. I have not dealt with either LMT or a RRA Operator, Is there a $130 difference in the product?
Doesn't that seem like alot ?

Some people know the price of everything and the value of nothing. I hope you find someone to tell you the RRA is 95% as good for only 30% of the price. I'll get one in desert tan.