OK guys, check this out. It doesn't really do much for me in the AR-15, but in the M1 Carbine it's quite a powerhouse. Originally designed by Robin Church at Cloud Mountain Armory, the cartridge is a 50AE with a 7.62x39 head. Ho, Hum....a short Beowulf. But the Beowulf is too long for the M1 Carbine, and the rim on the 50AE is a bit large for the M1 Carbine. Robin puts it in an AR, but I think it's more appropriate in an M1 Carbine.
This is a Universal M1 carbine which I modified to run the 502 Thunder Sabre. I have a small run of brass now, but Cloud Mountain should have 50,000 cases from Starline by Christmas.
You can still get Universal carbines for about $300 bucks, so this conversion should come in less than an AR and still give you plenty of power to drop those pesky deer.
Yes, I know LeMag did the 45 WinMag in years past, but that conversion is gone now.
If you want the 502 in the AR-15, Robin's website is www.bigborecanyon.com I'll stick with the 50AE in the AR myself.
Tony Rumore
Tromix Corp
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