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Posted: 10/27/2003 9:05:53 AM EDT
[#1]
I'm a lefty, and the only thing worth putting on your AR15 is the ambi safety that you already did. Adapt your manual of arms to the rifle, not your rifle to you.
I operate the mag release with my right thumb, I usually retain my magazines in a dump pouch so this allows me to do it easier. Personally I hate redi-mags...if you want to carry a spare mag on the gun get one of the buttstock mounted pouches, or the RASE stock. |
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Posted: 10/27/2003 9:24:41 AM EDT
[#2]
"Adapt your manual of arms to the rifle, not your rifle to you."
Interesting thought, but I would have thought it was the other way around. Adapt your rifle to your situation or condition. Wouldn't be prudent to have a rifle that suits your particular needs, than to adapt and make-do to something that is designed for someone else? BTW- enjoyed meeting you at GS and had a blast with your MK.II receiver and hybrid shotgun. Very cool stuff. Next AR will be a lightweight version with one of your new lowers. |
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Posted: 10/27/2003 11:26:02 AM EDT
[#3]
I like the norgon ambi mag dump. $70 brownells.
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Posted: 10/27/2003 1:01:05 PM EDT
[#4]
Adapt your manual-of-arms to the rifle until you can efficiently operate it in order to be able to use any AR-15. Not just one that is adapted to you.
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Posted: 10/27/2003 1:24:29 PM EDT
[#5]
I could see that line of thinking in the military but in the civilian sector chances are you will be using your own rifle. In that case, I would adapt and customize the weapon to suit the intended user. It's a luxury of personally owning firearms rather than having to grab one off a rack when the time comes to utilize it. Why force a square peg into a round hole?
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Posted: 10/27/2003 4:24:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: I could see that line of thinking in the military but in the civilian sector chances are you will be using your own rifle. In that case, I would adapt and customize the weapon to suit the intended user. It's a luxury of personally owning firearms rather than having to grab one off a rack when the time comes to utilize it. Why force a square peg into a round hole? I've never had to borrow guns when I shoot matches, because mine always work, but I have had to loan them to other people to get them through the match. If you are a hunter the same scenerio could apply...your gun goes down, but your buddy has a spare. IMHO the AR15 is one of the most ambidextrous guns out of the box there is. You can learn to effectively operate all the controls from the left handed perspective just as efficiently as someone else can right handed...gadgets will never compensate for practice, but once you have the skill they can improve your perfomance. I've shot enough and done enough mag changes now, that if I put the ambi catch on my rifle it would screw me up...especially if I put it on one of my rifles and not all of them. I have 4 AR style rifles, I don't want to spend $280.00 making them all the same. I'm a firm beleiver in continuem of training...the more you can do to make your competition, hunting, and self defense firearms all basically the same in terms of sight picture, grip, length of pull, and operation the better. This is one of the reasons I designed the SST-870 AR15 stock adapter for the remington 870 shotgun. If you only have one rifle and that is all you ever shoot, this isn't so much of an issue. This is just my personal opinion, a lot of the left handed or ambidextrous stuff on the market I have tried I haven't cared for too much. Dedicated left handed guns are the worst IMHO as they are often adressing a problem that does not exist and you will have a hell of a time selling it later if you want to. |
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Posted: 10/27/2003 5:15:48 PM EDT
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well I've been rather fortunate not to have to borrow someone else's guns. For a self-defense , I consider your primary weapon to be rather personal. The learning curve on weapon customized to your tendecies is alot less steep. I personally don't look at being left-handed as a problem that needs to be corrected nor do I feel that I should learn to use right-handed items when left-handed ones are available. I can spend more time learning many of the other aspects of shooting rather than fumbling through the ackwardness of utilizing gun features that were designed for right-handed people. Heck, the motto I try to follow is, "work smarter, not harder."
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Posted: 10/27/2003 6:25:43 PM EDT
[#8]
Put all the lefty stuff you can on your rifle and the damn righty's will leave it alone.
Put a stock mounted magazine pouch on the left side of your buttstock. Also mount your scopes so one knob is on top and one knob on the left. Personally I'd like to see a sling attachment that is mounted low enough not to interfere with the forward assist. |
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Posted: 10/27/2003 6:45:51 PM EDT
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While I advocate using two fingers to pull the charging handle back, DPMS sells an ambi charging handle latch. Bilbo is selling a left handed upper with LH receiver, bolt, and carrier on the EE board.
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Posted: 10/27/2003 6:56:17 PM EDT
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Quoted: Put all the lefty stuff you can on your rifle and the damn righty's will leave it alone. Put a stock mounted magazine pouch on the left side of your buttstock. Also mount your scopes so one knob is on top and one knob on the left. Personally I'd like to see a sling attachment that is mounted low enough not to interfere with the forward assist. The left handed tac slings I use seem to do a good job of that. [:P] |
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Posted: 10/27/2003 7:17:58 PM EDT
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hey you leftys should check this out
[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=173113&page=1[/url] |
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Posted: 10/28/2003 10:01:37 AM EDT
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Quoted: hey you leftys should check this out [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=173113&page=1[/url] Left side charging handles are meant for right handed people. It allows a righty to keep their primary hand on the firing grip while operating the firearm. A right side charging handle like on the AK, M1A, and AR180 is ideal for a left handed person. |
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Posted: 10/28/2003 1:45:06 PM EDT
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I tried the left sided bolt, and it seemed much easier to manipulate with my right hand than trying to use my right hand to pull the charging handle. I could still keep my left hand in a primary fire position. I didn't like the left side so open. While some said it made it easier to oil, I thought it would let in twice as much dirt. I also didn't like the fact the the bolt handle moves during firing. I use a single point sling, and using the technique I learned at Tiger Valley, the bolt handle would dig into my side or catch on something. In a situation where I have to clear a malfunction, I would have to visual inspect the chamber, or most likely, transition to a sidearm. My .02 worth of opinion.
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Posted: 10/28/2003 5:23:18 PM EDT
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Here is my list.
1. Ambi-latch 2. Ambi safety 3. make sure sling is setup well for both left and right 4. learn how to shoot fast from right shoulder. I can already shoot well from the right shoulder, 'bout 80% compared to the left, but my cheek weld feels unnatural and I am kinda slow sometimes, at least compared to left handed. btw, I am a right handed, left eye dominant person, with 2 extra ribs who shoots rifles from both shoulders and handguns just with the right. My highest score with small bore rifle was 94-1X in the prone position and it took a while to beat the previous score. It was a 90-1X from offhand. Some people tell me that I have a lot of wires crossed, so what I might do may not apply to you. |
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Posted: 10/28/2003 6:34:48 PM EDT
[#15]
I'm left handed and the ambi safety is the only lefty oriented mod I have done to my ARs.
I agree with the guys that advise you to adapt to the gun. I'm not a competition shooter or have any formal training, but it seems like good advice to me. I have especially avoided modifying any other rifles or shotguns to suit a lefty. Last thing I want is for myself or a friend to get confused about which way the safety gets pushed on any particular long gun. |
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Posted: 10/28/2003 7:26:17 PM EDT
[#16]
Another lefty here too.
All I did was the ambi safety on my varmint AR. I forgot to order one on the carbine. All the other stuff seems moot. |
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Posted: 10/28/2003 8:15:19 PM EDT
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or we could make this whole debate moot by going ambidextrous with the hardware (which is most of the lefty stuff). you can manipulate the controls from either side. Kind of does away with the "what if someone uses my rifle" train-of-thought. More ergonomic for the lefty owner of the weapon and situation normal for the righty.
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Posted: 11/12/2003 5:32:08 PM EDT
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I built a rifle for my lefty brother using the DPMS "Southpaw" receiver and bolt, an ambi safety, Ergo grip and some other stuff like sling mounts on the right side and so on.
He loves it because he doesn't have to worry about hot brass any more - it goes to his offhand side where it belongs. More than that, he finally has a rifle made the right - uh, correct - way for him and he doesn't have to make do with right-handed equipment this time. |
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Posted: 11/12/2003 5:59:49 PM EDT
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Im a lefty too, and have no left-handed parts on my rifle other than the SOP sling. My first use of the M16A2/AR15 was in MC boot camp. I wasnt about to tell my drill instructors that I needed lefty parts. I adapt and overcome....
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Posted: 11/12/2003 7:25:21 PM EDT
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true, adapting and overcoming is great...what also works in tandem is working smarter and not harder. If conditions permit, go with the parts that are designed to fit you. Remember the m-16 was ergonomically designed for right-handed people. The controls were not put there by random. besides, most lefty controls are ambidextrous and can be accessed with either hand.
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Posted: 11/12/2003 7:38:29 PM EDT
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BILLBO has a lefty M4 upper for sale in the Equipment Exchange. [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=22&t=185058[/url]
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Posted: 11/12/2003 8:02:51 PM EDT
[#22]
As a lefty I like the Extended tactical charging handle, I like the DPMS tactical bolt latch, but it does get in the way when doing hammer pin changes, and in the way when taking the magazine catch out, the Ambi selector is there but I used this type rifle so much without it that my thumb comes over and works it before I remember it's on both sides, The double mags clamped slow a magazine change and are for those who do not want to drop thier empty magazines on the concrete, not for people who want quick mag changes.
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Posted: 11/12/2003 10:06:16 PM EDT
[#23]
Hmmmm I'm a lefty and after seeing how much easier it is for me to operate the AR/M16 rifles all my righty buds now consider the AR's a left handed rifle. Anything you can do right handed you can do quicker and better on it left handed.
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