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Posted: 5/7/2003 12:02:38 PM EDT
Anyone starting checking in to this yet? Is this feasible? Would it be better than the .50 Beowolf or .458 SOCOM?

The obvious advantage I see is having the Ammo manufacturers behind it. We will get a lot more load development and selection.

The round sounds like a real winner.

Greg
Link Posted: 5/7/2003 12:17:35 PM EDT
[#1]
Dont count on it, rimmed cartridges are not the best for autoloaders.
Link Posted: 5/9/2003 1:38:42 PM EDT
[#2]
Now I know I'm prone to memory lapses, but I could have sworn that the picture I saw of the round had a rebated rim.

If not, then you're right about using it in an autoloader.
Link Posted: 5/9/2003 6:14:08 PM EDT
[#3]
I dont know why it would be rimmed. I know .50 AE is, but this is a revolver round. I guess we wait and see.
Link Posted: 5/9/2003 6:19:35 PM EDT
[#4]
I know Corbon is "behind" it but who else?  Hell, Corbon supposebly was behind the 458 SOCOM and they are just now taking it seriously enough to guarantee stock...

I'll take a custom upper from TeppoJutsu or Tromix in 458 SOCOM.

[:)]
Link Posted: 5/9/2003 7:15:44 PM EDT
[#5]
Rimmed, about .025 bigger than the case

Edited to add this...
[url]http://www.cor-bon.com/500casedraw.htm[/url]
Link Posted: 5/9/2003 7:17:29 PM EDT
[#6]
The 500 S&W is indeed a [b]rimmed[/b] round, meant for a new S&W revolver.  It is -gasp- essentially a rimmed version of the 50 Beowulf (it hurt saying that [banghead] )  Not sure how close exactly the dimensions are but they look "prit-near the same".

The [b]rimless[/b] (and rebated) round you saw was likely the aforementioned .50 Beowulf

As to making rimmed cartridges work in the AR, the biggest challenge is finding a magazine that works.  The only man I know that took on this challenge and won was Tony Rumore of Tromix, at one time he built uppers in .44 Magnum.  He has since discontinued those.

In a nutshell - an upper in .500 S&W in unlikely.  Especially with 3 rounds out there that are ballistically within the same ball park.

Marty
Link Posted: 5/9/2003 9:51:31 PM EDT
[#7]
i would like to see this in  a lever action rifle
Link Posted: 5/9/2003 10:17:48 PM EDT
[#8]
One thing you might want to consider before you run out and buy a 500 S&W Magnum. The cost for loaded ammo is right around $3 per round!

I was looking at a couple of the corbon loads today (440 gr SWC and 300 grain Barnes, 36/12 and 38/12 respectively), it's a huge round, but at that price, not one that will see much action.

Link Posted: 5/9/2003 10:25:14 PM EDT
[#9]
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One thing you might want to consider before you run out and buy a 500 S&W Magnum. The cost for loaded ammo is right around $3 per round!

I was looking at a couple of the corbon loads today (440 gr SWC and 300 grain Barnes, 36/12 and 38/12 respectively), it's a huge round, but at that price, not one that will see much action.

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Im sure it can be reloaded for under 75 cents a round
Link Posted: 5/9/2003 10:36:17 PM EDT
[#10]
Can't you clowns just be satisfied with .458 SOCOM and other large, expensive rounds you would never actually use for defensive purposes? Is .223 THAT LAME out of an AR-15? Good grief, get yourself some friggin Match King rounds or something! [whacko]

j/k [;)]
Link Posted: 5/9/2003 10:43:38 PM EDT
[#11]
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Can't you clowns just be satisfied with .458 SOCOM and other large, expensive rounds you would never actually use for defensive purposes? Is .223 THAT LAME out of an AR-15? Good grief, get yourself some friggin Match King rounds or something! [whacko]

j/k [;)]
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I just want the matching Lever Action carbine for when i buy the .500 mag pistol
Link Posted: 5/10/2003 7:02:36 AM EDT
[#12]
Why not approach from the other direction?  You can get revolvers in .45-70, and lever actions in that caliber are easy to find - there's your "matching pair".

Me, I want a lever action in .440 CorBon (it has the same rim size and bore size as the 44 Magnum ....) To match up with a Dessert Eagle (not a typo, I think of them as Dessert ...)

M
Link Posted: 5/10/2003 8:40:50 AM EDT
[#13]
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Why not approach from the other direction?  You can get revolvers in .45-70, and lever actions in that caliber are easy to find - there's your "matching pair".M
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I wasnt aware of 45-70 revolvers.  Who makes them?
Link Posted: 5/10/2003 8:43:04 AM EDT
[#14]
Magnum Research makes one.....there is another one name escapes me.
Link Posted: 5/10/2003 8:57:33 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Why not approach from the other direction?  You can get revolvers in .45-70, and lever actions in that caliber are easy to find - there's your "matching pair".M
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I wasnt aware of 45-70 revolvers.  Who makes them?
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How about the BFR and a Marlin lever action in .450 Marlin... that would be a nice match.
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