Looking for a BEOWULF stripped lower . Been to website and all that is offered is complete lower assembly .  
My 16in upper is a blast to shoot and a tack driver at 100yds with 350 gr AA factory ammo  .
Just want to get a dedicated 50Beowulf lower without buying it complete due to having all the parts to assemble it .

Call AA and ask them if they will sell you one. They don't have everything up on the site.

Bill

Have already called AA and spoke with them . They wanted to sell me either a complete lower assembly or a Grendel stripped lower .
If I did not want a dedicated lower I would just keep my upper on my RRA 223 lower as it  does work the same .
already have spare comp trigger assy and A1 stock , as I do not care for carbine stocks and A2 is to long for me and uncomfortable .

Check with Lars here.  Mine came from Lars.


http://shop.umlautarms.com/50-Beowulf-Lower-Assemblies_c156.htm

We currently do not supply either stripped uppers or stripped lowers for the Beowulf, nor do we sell barrel and bolt combination's. In our brief experience of attempting to service this market we have found that the Beowulf with its recoil was not forgiving of many components. Rather than lead customers into attempting such builds and ending up with a poor result our approach has been to sell sub assemblies in which we can control the quality and the result.

O K . I understand your concerns . BUT you guys  advertise that you can take any beowulf upper and install on any 556/223 lower and use under combat conditions with no issues .(see discovery channel weapons special ) which is also posted on your website . So is this a false statement ?
 From my understanding there are no differences in the lower and or lower parts kits . Rifle stock and buffer tube are same as A2 and the buffer and spring are also the same . Some people use stronger spring and heavy buffers to reduce recoil . Also aren't bolt carriers the same as 556/223.  
Please correct me if I am wrong .

I have my upper mounted on a RRA 223 lower with a USGI parts kit installed with A1 stock  . I have run aprox 1500-1800 rounds 55gr 223 , and aprox 600-700 50 beowulf 350gr factory AA ammo through it with no issues .

Please dont misunderstand my statements I love my beowulf and I would not give it up for anything . As stated in begining IT WILL STOP ALMOST ANYTHING ! !

Smitty,

A big piece of that "any lower" statement is that it applies to any "mil-spec" lower. If it is, there will be no problems.

Unfortunately, there are a LOT of lowers being built by "Bubba Backlot" with parts that don't necessarily meet that specification.

I suspect that AA, like many AR manufacturers, has been burned with people building their own lowers and then complaining that a company upper won't function correctly on it. For obvious reasons, they have become more conservative about what they recommend. Like many quality manufacturers, they don't like it when their reputation takes a hit because someone complains that their Beo upper won't work on their super, custom lower, built by Bubba, (who knows everything there is to know about AR's because he used to be an armorer for the 1063rd Special Forces Group!)  

It doesn't mean there aren't competent guys out there, including you, who can build a quality lower. It just means that they have to draw the line somewhere, and thats where Alexander Arms chose to do so. It doesn't help that unlicensed builders sometimes put the Beowulf/Grendel logos on stuff and pass it off. It then appears that AA built it, and when it doesn't work, AA takes the hit.

I actually run my Beo on a DPMS lower, and would love to have a Beo marked lower. I just can't justify it, because buying another AA lower would leave me with an assembled, but not used lower. If I could buy the stripped lower, I would do so and move my parts to it. So I'm in the same boat.

Bill

Here's you're link!!
You should find plenty of em here. Stripped also on website

I agree with you 100% . But if AA is selling mil spec lowers it should not  be an issue . Also if that was the real issue why were they willing to sell me a grendel lower for the same purpose ?
I am not going to worry about it , it just would be nice for my wulf to sit on top of an AA lower where it belongs . i've tuned my lower to the upper and it runs perfect as is .

Smitty

Did you check my link I gave you?

Yes , Thank you . I greatly appriciate the link .
Have done business with Lars before on reloading supplies and other items .

There aren't any stripped lowers available at that link.

Yes . There are stripped lowers at the link he left  . They are not AA marked lowers but they are marked 50 beowulf . And from my understanding the are manufactured by the same people that make them for AA .

Not the piont !  If I wanted a different type lower I would just keep it on my 223 mill spec lower .
I can only assume you are replying for AA ? If so why when I called AA they wanted to sell me a stripped Grendel lower ? If there if an issue with assembling a lower to take the recoil of a beowulf why were they willing to sell me a grendel lower in place of the beowulf ?

It has been pointed out to me that Lars at Umlaut Arms did not understand my intent with the above post.

I should make it clear that I never intended to lump Lars or Umlaut Arms into the "Bubba Backlot" category. He has been a large supplier of licensed Grendel and Beowulf parts for years, and certainly doesn't fit in that category in MY mind. I was specifically referring to those who claim vast experience from some former life, (thus the part about the armorer for the 1063rd Special Forces Group, which doesn't exist!)

I was referring to the unlicensed guys who operate without FFL's of any category, (thus the "Backlot") and build rifles with parts that are of dubious quality. Some even offer engraving of Beowulf or Grendel on customers lowers. I am sure some of those lowers are good quality, while I doubt that ALL of them are!

I was in no way referring to the licensed sale of equipment by Lars or any large manufacturer.

Hopefully that clears up the intent.

Bill

It was how you referred to engraved lowers that peaked my interest.  So far as I know, Lars is the only one who has ever sold stripped .50Beowulf lowers with the viking skull logo which is 100% owned by him.  You didn't say it specifically, but it seemed pretty obvious that the intent was there, unless you just had no idea who was coming out with what lowers and such.  Just trying to keep the truth around here.

OK, I'm still not seeing the stripped lowers, but obviously they must be there, and I'm just not navigating the site correctly.

I had to make some phone calls regarding your question about Beo stripped lowers. Most of the reason is historical. Apart from Lars at Umlaut Arms, there has never been a significant demand for BEO lowers individually of any type, stripped or built. AA has not sold BEOWULF stripped lowers historically, so really doesn't have a mechanism in place to do so. It has never been a high demand item, since the vast majority of owners put BEO uppers on their existing lowers, OR they buy complete rifles. Few have bought an upper, then the lower, or wanted to build a BEO specific lower and asked for a BEO stripped lower.

There really hasn't been much demand to sell BEO lowers in one's and two's, so no SKU has been created to do that.

If someone has a quality lower and wants to run a BEO, it should be fine. Rarely, they will run into an issue, and usually we can help the owner sort through it.

Since there really isn't much margin for error, we prefer to build the marked lowers for Beowulfs with our warrantee/guaranty in place.

We appreciate your business, hope you continue to enjoy your Beowulf, and hope that helps!

AA really hasn't a good reason to do so at this point.  

Until I was told about the post on Beyond556, I wasn't aware that Lars had ever had specific lowers made or sold stripped lowers. I thought he stuck to the AA products.

I was referring to those who marked lowers at owners requests, etc. Some of those have been discussed on Lar's forum, and I know of several others as well now.

I'm completely at a loss as to how anyone would believe Lars to fit into the "Bubba Backlot" group, though!

Bill

Yes I will continue to enjoy my beowulf . There is nothing like it at the range . People at the range expect the wimpy pop of the 223 and do not expect the bang of a 50 beowulf .
As stated before I run it on my 223 lower and it works fine but if I could get an AA stripped lower  it would be nice .
I do understand that AA does not offer one but just saying it would be nice if they did.

Please dont get Lars confused with (bubba backlot) I have done business with lars in past and must say that everything I have ever received from him has been top quality stuff .

I have received AA items from Lars when even AA could not get them to me . Go figure that one .

Hey Curley, thanks for e-mail . It was very informative .

I like lars lower.

I like the 50 beo.

Their refusal to release their own lowers sounds like something right there with refusing to release the rights to their brass.

A poor business decision.

A mil-spec lower meets specifications of the DOD from before I was born. Alot of companies make lowers far superior to mil-spec, but they most more. Don't run a 50 beo on a plum-stupid lower. Run a 50 beo on any ar15 lower from anyone who's been making them for more than four years.


Ive put metric shit tons of 458 through my 50 dollar stripped aero lower, that also carried my first two fifty cal beo uppers. Oh, its also run plenty of 50bmgs with a bolt action upper.