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Posted: 5/7/2015 8:27:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GamecockOperator]
Well, with the release of the 1911 Frames last night, i figured i would start a thread about them, that maybe we can get PSA to sticky.
General information : PSA released two versions. The Stainless Steel and the Carbon Steel... both of which were selling for 139.99 each, (origionally 399.99) , with a stated limited release of serial numbers 100-700.. or a total of 600 frames per serial number. General assumption is that the first 100 of each, were either built by PSA, or are being held to be built by PSA, and the ones we saw at shot show in 2013 are within that first 100 serial number run. Stainless Steel 
The description from PSA's Site : Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: SKU: 503830 UPC: 503830 MFR#: 503830 These are pre-production prototype surplus OEM 1911 frames, functional and ready for you to build. Serial numbers range from 100 to 700. Some have checkered front straps. Luck of the draw on checkering and serial numbers. 5" 1911 Frame size Forged Frame 416 Stainless Steel Model 70 Cut for beavertail safety Carbon Steel 
Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: SKU: 503831 UPC: 503831 MFR#: 503831 These are pre-production prototype surplus OEM 1911 frames, functional and ready for you to build. Serial numbers range from 100 to 700. Some may have checkered front straps. Luck of the draw on checkering and serial numbers. 5" 1911 Frame size Forged Frame 4140 Carbon Steel Model 70 style Cut for beavertail safety Known Specs for building purposes : .250 radius grip safety (cut for EGW. Note: EGW does their grip safeties at .245 to fit a .250 frame cut) The rear tang is cut for a commander style grip safety/beavertail, not a GI. A GI will leave a gap. Frame is NOT cut for those who want a ramped barrel. Thus, people wanting to buy a ramped barrel will have to cut the frame if they choose a ramped barrel. Hopefully things here will be informative and helpful to everyone. That being said, My first question to PSA is can we get some photos of the frame's roll marks? Im curious about the way they are marked. 6/2/15 - Info on Feed Ramps added. |
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Posted: 5/19/2015 9:05:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tubee1: I used a Remington beavertail and mainspring housing. The beavertail fit with almost no shaping and the finish is a good match. $37 for both parts from CDNN. http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163659_resized_zpswqayfw3v.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163736_resized_zpswkwqrcsx.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163851_resized_zpsvfubeivy.jpg</a>" /> Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tubee1: Originally Posted By rkwood: Yes, and they run $60 - $65 plus shipping... Has anyone found a nice one that fits well for less money? The PSA ad for the frame on their website lists EGW as the recommended grip safety. I used a Remington beavertail and mainspring housing. The beavertail fit with almost no shaping and the finish is a good match. $37 for both parts from CDNN. http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163659_resized_zpswqayfw3v.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163736_resized_zpswkwqrcsx.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163851_resized_zpsvfubeivy.jpg</a>" /> |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2015 10:46:01 PM EDT
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tubee1, THANK YOU! I just ordered the blued Remington beavertail grip safety with the fine line checkering at the bottom for $16.99... I already picked up the checkered Remington main spring housing last week. I'm building up a two-tone 1911 similar to what Wilson Combat offers and that beavertail will be just the ticket. Sweet!
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SC, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2015 10:59:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tubee1:
I used a Remington beavertail and mainspring housing. The beavertail fit with almost no shaping and the finish is a good match. $37 for both parts from CDNN. http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163659_resized_zpswqayfw3v.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163736_resized_zpswkwqrcsx.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163851_resized_zpsvfubeivy.jpg</a>" /> Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tubee1:
Originally Posted By rkwood:
Yes, and they run $60 - $65 plus shipping... Has anyone found a nice one that fits well for less money? The PSA ad for the frame on their website lists EGW as the recommended grip safety. I used a Remington beavertail and mainspring housing. The beavertail fit with almost no shaping and the finish is a good match. $37 for both parts from CDNN. http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163659_resized_zpswqayfw3v.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163736_resized_zpswkwqrcsx.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163851_resized_zpsvfubeivy.jpg</a>" /> thats awesome!!! Thanks for the photos and tips.. found this, wondered what folks thought of maybe the PSA manufactuer? |
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Posted: 5/20/2015 11:08:45 AM EDT
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Anyone know the firing pin hole size?
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Posted: 5/20/2015 11:15:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tubee1:
I used a Remington beavertail and mainspring housing. The beavertail fit with almost no shaping and the finish is a good match. $37 for both parts from CDNN. http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163659_resized_zpswqayfw3v.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163736_resized_zpswkwqrcsx.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163851_resized_zpsvfubeivy.jpg</a>" /> Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tubee1:
Originally Posted By rkwood:
Yes, and they run $60 - $65 plus shipping... Has anyone found a nice one that fits well for less money? The PSA ad for the frame on their website lists EGW as the recommended grip safety. I used a Remington beavertail and mainspring housing. The beavertail fit with almost no shaping and the finish is a good match. $37 for both parts from CDNN. http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163659_resized_zpswqayfw3v.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163736_resized_zpswkwqrcsx.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150519_163851_resized_zpsvfubeivy.jpg</a>" /> That beavertail is for a commander hammer and not the standard GI hammer, right? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2015 11:21:00 AM EDT
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Correct. Most beavertail grip safeties that I'm familiar with will not work with the standard G.I. type hammer because the spur will physically interfere with the safety. You'll need a bobbed hammer or the skeletonized / commander style.
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IL, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2015 11:23:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: PharetH]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man:
Anyone know the firing pin hole size? I covered this a couple pages back...but here it is again. I'm fairly certain it uses .093" firing pin because my 9mm/38 Super firing pin is loose. I won't know for sure until next week when my .093 pin shows up. |
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Posted: 5/20/2015 11:38:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PharetH:
I covered this a couple pages back...but here it is again. I'm fairly certain it uses .093" firing pin because my 9mm/38 Super firing pin is loose. I won't know for sure until next week when my .093 pin shows up. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PharetH:
Originally Posted By d16man:
Anyone know the firing pin hole size? I covered this a couple pages back...but here it is again. I'm fairly certain it uses .093" firing pin because my 9mm/38 Super firing pin is loose. I won't know for sure until next week when my .093 pin shows up. Missed that....thanks for the update. Hey GCO, can you update your main post with this type of info once it is confirmed? That way if we miss a post we can go there and get it. Already known: .250 radius grip safety (cut for EGW. Note: EGW does their grip safeties at .245 to fit a .250 frame cut) |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2015 12:53:52 PM EDT
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I received my two frames yesterday. I lucked out with both having machined front straps. The checkering count is 25 LPI.
Also, the barrel I received is nicely crowned and rifled, with a fitted bushing. I wished I would have bought another 
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SC, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2015 2:20:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man:
Missed that....thanks for the update. Hey GCO, can you update your main post with this type of info once it is confirmed? That way if we miss a post we can go there and get it. Already known: .250 radius grip safety (cut for EGW. Note: EGW does their grip safeties at .245 to fit a .250 frame cut) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man:
Originally Posted By PharetH:
Originally Posted By d16man:
Anyone know the firing pin hole size? I covered this a couple pages back...but here it is again. I'm fairly certain it uses .093" firing pin because my 9mm/38 Super firing pin is loose. I won't know for sure until next week when my .093 pin shows up. Missed that....thanks for the update. Hey GCO, can you update your main post with this type of info once it is confirmed? That way if we miss a post we can go there and get it. Already known: .250 radius grip safety (cut for EGW. Note: EGW does their grip safeties at .245 to fit a .250 frame cut) yes ultimately that is the goal. I'll add those things to the specs of it now. |
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Posted: 5/20/2015 3:15:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man: Anyone know the firing pin hole size? |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2015 10:48:42 AM EDT
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such was my thoughts.
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Posted: 5/25/2015 1:46:40 PM EDT
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looks like the frames are sold out now, glad I got my mid 200 SN#
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NE, USA
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:49:43 AM EDT
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Picking my frame & slide up today, will a Wilson Combat drop in beavertail gs fit this frame? If not, what would you recommend?
Thanks! |
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SD, USA
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Posted: 5/27/2015 9:38:18 AM EDT
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Slide and all my parts came yesterday, picking the frame up from my LGS today. I got a commander and normal cut beavertails since there seems to be some conflicting info on what is the correct one, should be able to return the unused one. Too bad I am leaving for 2 weeks for work so I cant start my build damnit.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 9:48:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Raven6:
Picking my frame & slide up today, will a Wilson Combat drop in beavertail gs fit this frame? If not, what would you recommend? Thanks! You want the commander beavertail if your frame matches the picture in the OP, as the rear tang cut will leave a gap if you use a standard beavertail. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 5/27/2015 1:24:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man:
You want the commander beavertail if your frame matches the picture in the OP, as the rear tang cut will leave a gap if you use a standard beavertail. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man:
Originally Posted By Raven6:
Picking my frame & slide up today, will a Wilson Combat drop in beavertail gs fit this frame? If not, what would you recommend? Thanks! You want the commander beavertail if your frame matches the picture in the OP, as the rear tang cut will leave a gap if you use a standard beavertail. this info has been added to the original post. |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 5/28/2015 8:54:22 PM EDT
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So your saying no matter what gs I go with it should be the commander size and not Government? Aren't the frames the same at the rear as long as they are already cut for a .220/.250 radius beavertail? This is my 1st complete build but I own 2 Sig & 1 Springfield 1911's. Thanks for the help!!!
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Posted: 5/28/2015 9:48:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Raven6:
So your saying no matter what gs I go with it should be the commander size and not Government? Aren't the frames the same at the rear as long as they are already cut for a .220/.250 radius beavertail? This is my 1st complete build but I own 2 Sig & 1 Springfield 1911's. Thanks for the help!!! The radius is correct, but the tangs are cut for a commander. |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 5/28/2015 10:48:33 PM EDT
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Does the wilson combat commander size drop in have the correct radius?
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Posted: 5/29/2015 1:34:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man:
The radius is correct, but the tangs are cut for a commander. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man:
Originally Posted By Raven6:
So your saying no matter what gs I go with it should be the commander size and not Government? Aren't the frames the same at the rear as long as they are already cut for a .220/.250 radius beavertail? This is my 1st complete build but I own 2 Sig & 1 Springfield 1911's. Thanks for the help!!! The radius is correct, but the tangs are cut for a commander. The originator of this problem purchased a grip safety for an un-cut government profile beavertail safety and the PSA frame comes pre-cut for.250 radius. Once you cut it (.250, .220) it is no longer government profile... Therefore you will have a hard time finding a "commander" grip safety, because they are listed by radius not style. Bottom line is that .250's will fit best unless you want to radius for .220. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 8:39:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: d16man]
[#22]
Got in my grip safety, ambi thumb safety, and mainspring housing from CDNN. These are all Remington and fit like a glove. They wobble slightly because I haven't put in the springs and pins yet. I am sure they will tighten up once they are properly installed. This was just a dry run and I couldn't be happier, except I wish the thumb safety was a darker black. edit: Since I don't have a checkered frame, I ordered the Wilson Combat front strap that fits under the grips. Gonna see if it works, for $10 I figured it was worth a try.
http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/frame-parts/frame-hardware/front-straps/1911-auto-checkered-front-strap-blued-front-strap-sku965-100-001-16409-36879.aspx 
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/29/2015 11:41:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tubee1]
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All fitted and raring to go! Ed Brown barrel,pins and springs,STI hammer and sear,Wilson extractor,Remington beavertail,thumb safety,slide stop,mainspring housing. Slide needed some work for barrel fitting. Other parts required normal fitting.
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Posted: 5/30/2015 6:59:25 AM EDT
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Nice! Specs?
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Posted: 5/30/2015 9:36:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man: go order the remington, it is only $17 IIRC. Then sell your other one. profit. literally. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man: Originally Posted By panzersergeant: Originally Posted By d16man: Got in my grip safety, ambi thumb safety, and mainspring housing from CDNN. These are all Remington and fit like a glove. They wobble slightly because I haven't put in the springs and pins yet. I am sure they will tighten up once they are properly installed. This was just a dry run and I couldn't be happier, except I wish the thumb safety was a darker black. edit: Since I don't have a checkered frame, I ordered the Wilson Combat front strap that fits under the grips. Gonna see if it works, for $10 I figured it was worth a try. http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/frame-parts/frame-hardware/front-straps/1911-auto-checkered-front-strap-blued-front-strap-sku965-100-001-16409-36879.aspx https://scontent-atl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/11202114_10101973663839007_757314554264058546_n.jpg?oh=c951a4a459b61bf64ff2a471fcec566b&oe=55BEC4EC https://scontent-atl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/11390117_10101973663634417_4484003521335257490_n.jpg?oh=c8e2cce4e74e22d41fee12b285d5c767&oe=55C340CB https://scontent-atl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/18885_10101973663584517_81185825539503949_n.jpg?oh=b1bf678921551178a1d5d8cc95c0eaec&oe=55FDFB2B https://scontent-atl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/11390003_10101973663569547_2968898041591158155_n.jpg?oh=5f18433cc70f23b15150b19137acc346&oe=560464D8 https://scontent-atl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/1908131_10101973663544597_8954063310657023973_n.jpg?oh=774fcae8a3ee0a86ab66dd03cb098b4e&oe=55C4068C Very nice.  I wish my beavertail fit as good as yours. go order the remington, it is only $17 IIRC. Then sell your other one. profit. literally. here is the barrel its on sale right now |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/30/2015 10:42:37 AM EDT
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Added some specs to original post.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/30/2015 1:13:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GamecockOperator:
thats what i was told as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GamecockOperator:
Originally Posted By d16man:
Originally Posted By Bandit-2211:
Will there be any carbon steel slides available anytime soon? I was told no on that one.... thats what i was told as well. Well, they have 4140 listed now, LOL 4140 M1911 Slide PSA |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2015 10:26:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lotz6996]
[#30]
Ordered mine Friday morning. I should have it wednesday |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2015 8:13:39 AM EDT
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updated origional post with information about ramped barrels and the fram.e
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GA, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2015 5:41:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tubee1:
All fitted and raring to go! Ed Brown barrel,pins and springs,STI hammer and sear,Wilson extractor,Remington beavertail,thumb safety,slide stop,mainspring housing. Slide needed some work for barrel fitting. Other parts required normal fitting.
What rear sight are you using? I'd like to go with an adjustable rear sight as well. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2015 10:38:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-TRVLR:
What rear sight are you using? I'd like to go with an adjustable rear sight as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-TRVLR:
Originally Posted By tubee1:
All fitted and raring to go! Ed Brown barrel,pins and springs,STI hammer and sear,Wilson extractor,Remington beavertail,thumb safety,slide stop,mainspring housing. Slide needed some work for barrel fitting. Other parts required normal fitting. http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/tubee11/20150529_231531_resized_zpsfi4gn6p5.jpg What rear sight are you using? I'd like to go with an adjustable rear sight as well. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/721189/springfield-armory-adjustable-rear-sight-1911-novak-cut-steel-blue |
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Posted: 6/6/2015 8:20:31 PM EDT
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got my barrel fitted, recoil spring, ejector, what a PIA the roll pin was to get in, anyone else have a problem? waiting on some parts to show up so I can finish up some other stuff.
looks like my slide will need to be blended as my extractor, ejector, frame and slide are all at different levels. I am glad it ended up that way, I can use a stone to try and smooth it all out. I will try to get pics up later tomorrow. damn frame is sharp, I keep getting myself on the edges of the back. I didnt think it was going to be this difficult but once I get something done it feels pretty good, the barrel took me 4 days to fit, probably a long time compared to most but I did a little at a time. |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 6/6/2015 10:49:25 PM EDT
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My2dogs...what barrel did you install?
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SC, USA
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Posted: 6/7/2015 9:21:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By my2Dogs:
got my barrel fitted, recoil spring, ejector, what a PIA the roll pin was to get in, anyone else have a problem? waiting on some parts to show up so I can finish up some other stuff. looks like my slide will need to be blended as my extractor, ejector, frame and slide are all at different levels. I am glad it ended up that way, I can use a stone to try and smooth it all out. I will try to get pics up later tomorrow. damn frame is sharp, I keep getting myself on the edges of the back. I didnt think it was going to be this difficult but once I get something done it feels pretty good, the barrel took me 4 days to fit, probably a long time compared to most but I did a little at a time. wow sounds like your getting a lot done. where'd you get your ceramic stones? and where are the photos? |
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Posted: 6/7/2015 9:23:49 AM EDT
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http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/barrel-parts/barrels/1911-auto-drop-in-match-barrels-prod1360.aspx
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Raven6: My2dogs...what barrel did you install? |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 6/7/2015 4:15:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By my2Dogs:
what a PIA the roll pin was to get in, anyone else have a problem? The only problem I had with the ejector was seating the roll pin flush with the frame. I used the Remington ejector because it was already notched for the pin. I did not want to take a chance with the drill drifting if I did the drilling myself. The roll pin started easily using a roll pin punch but I did not have the correct drift punch to seat the pin flush I used a smaller drift but it would skip off the pin. I was almost able to seat the pin flush but the slide would hang on the pin a little filing made the pin fit flush. |
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Posted: 6/7/2015 6:40:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: my2Dogs]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GamecockOperator: wow sounds like your getting a lot done. where'd you get your ceramic stones? and where are the photos? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GamecockOperator: Originally Posted By my2Dogs: got my barrel fitted, recoil spring, ejector, what a PIA the roll pin was to get in, anyone else have a problem? waiting on some parts to show up so I can finish up some other stuff. looks like my slide will need to be blended as my extractor, ejector, frame and slide are all at different levels. I am glad it ended up that way, I can use a stone to try and smooth it all out. I will try to get pics up later tomorrow. damn frame is sharp, I keep getting myself on the edges of the back. I didnt think it was going to be this difficult but once I get something done it feels pretty good, the barrel took me 4 days to fit, probably a long time compared to most but I did a little at a time. wow sounds like your getting a lot done. where'd you get your ceramic stones? and where are the photos?     all that dark stuff is aeroshell, I lubed the hell out of it while fitting the barrel, it locks up tight, you can push down on it and no movement, I need to polish up the barrel and take all the sharpie off it and the frame, I have some parts showing up next week, so far its been a fun challenge, cant wait to get to shoot this thing one day......... I have not purchased a stone for the back yet, I want to get it all assembled and shoot it to make sure the barrel link is good, that will make the rear of the slide change if I have to adjust it. I need the tool to install the tube, if anyone has one I can borrow, I have a bunch of files I picked up from lowes, I would be glad to loan them out once I get mine done. |
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Posted: 6/7/2015 7:02:08 PM EDT
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I have a barrel and a tube stake tool on order, should be in this week. Where are you in SC?
I ordered a storm lake black isonite threaded barrel...mine is going to be a suppressor host. 
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Posted: 6/7/2015 7:14:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man: I have a barrel and a tube stake tool on order, should be in this week. Where are you in SC? I ordered a storm lake black isonite threaded barrel...mine is going to be a suppressor host.  JK, I really think I may order another frame before PSA gets wise and starts charging what other companies are for the frames. I saw a YT video where a guy had one and they moved the SN from where mine is to where the PSA roll mark is. I think I may want to get one that has checkering on the front ......... |
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Posted: 6/7/2015 8:31:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By my2Dogs:
I have the pleasure to live near rock hill, JK,
I really think I may order another frame before PSA gets wise and starts charging what other companies are for the frames. I saw a YT video where a guy had one and they moved the SN from where mine is to where the PSA roll mark is. I think I may want to get one that has checkering on the front ......... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By my2Dogs:
Originally Posted By d16man:
I have a barrel and a tube stake tool on order, should be in this week. Where are you in SC? I ordered a storm lake black isonite threaded barrel...mine is going to be a suppressor host. JK,
I really think I may order another frame before PSA gets wise and starts charging what other companies are for the frames. I saw a YT video where a guy had one and they moved the SN from where mine is to where the PSA roll mark is. I think I may want to get one that has checkering on the front ......... GCO's serial is at the rollmark. Mine is out towards the muzzle. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 6/7/2015 8:52:54 PM EDT
[#43]
I have a frame with a serial number slightly lower than my2Dogs' and the serial is under Columbia, SC. The frame is checkered and the manufacture etc appears to be machined into the frame.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 6/7/2015 9:02:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DarkDrifter]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By autoxer240:
The originator of this problem purchased a grip safety for an un-cut government profile beavertail safety and the PSA frame comes pre-cut for.250 radius. Once you cut it (.250, .220) it is no longer government profile... Therefore you will have a hard time finding a "commander" grip safety, because they are listed by radius not style. Bottom line is that .250's will fit best unless you want to radius for .220. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By autoxer240:
Originally Posted By d16man:
Originally Posted By Raven6:
So your saying no matter what gs I go with it should be the commander size and not Government? Aren't the frames the same at the rear as long as they are already cut for a .220/.250 radius beavertail? This is my 1st complete build but I own 2 Sig & 1 Springfield 1911's. Thanks for the help!!! The radius is correct, but the tangs are cut for a commander. The originator of this problem purchased a grip safety for an un-cut government profile beavertail safety and the PSA frame comes pre-cut for.250 radius. Once you cut it (.250, .220) it is no longer government profile... Therefore you will have a hard time finding a "commander" grip safety, because they are listed by radius not style. Bottom line is that .250's will fit best unless you want to radius for .220. Judging by posts I am seeing here and at the 1911 forum, some people are very confused on this point, and the OP has been edited to be very misleading to a 1911 newbie. Some may have already bought the wrong GS if they were hunting a "commander beaver tail". There is NO SUCH THING as a .250 radius "commander style" beaver tail. Those buying "commander style" are likely buying a "Drop-in" beaver tail which is completely unnecessary. The drop-in beaver tail is designed for a Commander framed pistol WITH UNCUT COMMANDER STYLE TANGS. It is so you do not have to modify the frame tangs. Same with GI "drop-in". They are made with a bunch of added clearance as anyone can see. 
From top left then down: 1. GI Tangs w/ GI grip safety, Spur Hammer 2. GI Tangs w/ DROP-IN "Duck bill" grip safety, Spur Hammer Middle: 3. Commander Tangs w/ Std Cmdr grip safety, Rowel/Commander Hammer 4. Commander Tangs w/ DROP-IN "Beaver tail" grip safety, Rowel/Commander Hammer Right: 5. Bare Frame with .250"R tang cut 6. .250" Radius frame with "Beaver Tail" grip safety, Skeletonized/Commander Hammer |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 6/7/2015 9:08:13 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By my2Dogs:
I have the pleasure to live near rock hill, JK,
I really think I may order another frame before PSA gets wise and starts charging what other companies are for the frames. I saw a YT video where a guy had one and they moved the SN from where mine is to where the PSA roll mark is. I think I may want to get one that has checkering on the front ......... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By my2Dogs:
Originally Posted By d16man:
I have a barrel and a tube stake tool on order, should be in this week. Where are you in SC? I ordered a storm lake black isonite threaded barrel...mine is going to be a suppressor host. JK,
I really think I may order another frame before PSA gets wise and starts charging what other companies are for the frames. I saw a YT video where a guy had one and they moved the SN from where mine is to where the PSA roll mark is. I think I may want to get one that has checkering on the front ......... I was told the other day that the checkering is on serial # 225 or 250 and below (can't remember the exact number). I got extremely lucky and was able to grab the only one with checkering that wasn't promised out. To top that off it has a serial # less than 100. |
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Posted: 6/7/2015 9:31:45 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCLex:
I was told the other day that the checkering is on serial # 225 or 250 and below (can't remember the exact number). I got extremely lucky and was able to grab the only one with checkering that wasn't promised out. To top that off it has a serial # less than 100. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCLex:
Originally Posted By my2Dogs:
Originally Posted By d16man:
I have a barrel and a tube stake tool on order, should be in this week. Where are you in SC? I ordered a storm lake black isonite threaded barrel...mine is going to be a suppressor host. JK,
I really think I may order another frame before PSA gets wise and starts charging what other companies are for the frames. I saw a YT video where a guy had one and they moved the SN from where mine is to where the PSA roll mark is. I think I may want to get one that has checkering on the front ......... I was told the other day that the checkering is on serial # 225 or 250 and below (can't remember the exact number). I got extremely lucky and was able to grab the only one with checkering that wasn't promised out. To top that off it has a serial # less than 100. nice, I went with the carbon steel, my serial is in the 600s. I don't really care about the serial number, I just wanted a PSA 1911. I ordered the Wilson Combat front checkered strap to see how I would like it. I figured for $10 it wouldn't be a big deal if it didn't work or I didn't like it. I have a pretty big paw and having the extra there wont hurt. |
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Posted: 6/7/2015 9:36:16 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkDrifter:
Judging by posts I am seeing here and at the 1911 forum, some people are very confused on this point, and the OP has been edited to be very misleading to a 1911 newbie. Some may have already bought the wrong GS if they were hunting a "commander beaver tail". There is NO SUCH THING as a .250 radius "commander style" beaver tail. Those buying "commander style" are likely buying a "Drop-in" beaver tail which is completely unnecessary. The drop-in beaver tail is designed for a Commander framed pistol WITH UNCUT COMMANDER STYLE TANGS. It is so you do not have to modify the frame tangs. Same with GI "drop-in". They are made with a bunch of added clearance as anyone can see. http://i.imgur.com/Los2zOb.jpg From top left then down: 1. GI Tangs w/ GI grip safety, Spur Hammer 2. GI Tangs w/ DROP-IN "Duck bill" grip safety, Spur Hammer Middle: 3. Commander Tangs w/ Std Cmdr grip safety, Rowel/Commander Hammer 4. Commander Tangs w/ DROP-IN "Beaver tail" grip safety, Rowel/Commander Hammer Right: 5. Bare Frame with .250"R tang cut 6. .250" Radius frame with "Beaver Tail" grip safety, Skeletonized/Commander Hammer Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkDrifter:
Originally Posted By autoxer240:
Originally Posted By d16man:
Originally Posted By Raven6:
So your saying no matter what gs I go with it should be the commander size and not Government? Aren't the frames the same at the rear as long as they are already cut for a .220/.250 radius beavertail? This is my 1st complete build but I own 2 Sig & 1 Springfield 1911's. Thanks for the help!!! The radius is correct, but the tangs are cut for a commander. The originator of this problem purchased a grip safety for an un-cut government profile beavertail safety and the PSA frame comes pre-cut for.250 radius. Once you cut it (.250, .220) it is no longer government profile... Therefore you will have a hard time finding a "commander" grip safety, because they are listed by radius not style. Bottom line is that .250's will fit best unless you want to radius for .220. Judging by posts I am seeing here and at the 1911 forum, some people are very confused on this point, and the OP has been edited to be very misleading to a 1911 newbie. Some may have already bought the wrong GS if they were hunting a "commander beaver tail". There is NO SUCH THING as a .250 radius "commander style" beaver tail. Those buying "commander style" are likely buying a "Drop-in" beaver tail which is completely unnecessary. The drop-in beaver tail is designed for a Commander framed pistol WITH UNCUT COMMANDER STYLE TANGS. It is so you do not have to modify the frame tangs. Same with GI "drop-in". They are made with a bunch of added clearance as anyone can see. http://i.imgur.com/Los2zOb.jpg From top left then down: 1. GI Tangs w/ GI grip safety, Spur Hammer 2. GI Tangs w/ DROP-IN "Duck bill" grip safety, Spur Hammer Middle: 3. Commander Tangs w/ Std Cmdr grip safety, Rowel/Commander Hammer 4. Commander Tangs w/ DROP-IN "Beaver tail" grip safety, Rowel/Commander Hammer Right: 5. Bare Frame with .250"R tang cut 6. .250" Radius frame with "Beaver Tail" grip safety, Skeletonized/Commander Hammer perhaps using the word "drop in" is the issue...whatever the case, we know the remingtons work. As for GI vs. Commander, even Wilson specifies a difference: http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/safety-parts/safeties/1911-auto-drop-in-beavertail-grip-safety-prod16464.aspx?avs|Make_3=1911&avs|Manufacturer_1=wilson%20combat The "drop in" style is considered a commander, and the "grip" style is considered GI, at least as brownells has it listed. Panzer used a "grip" style IIRC. |
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Posted: 6/7/2015 9:42:47 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCLex:
I was told the other day that the checkering is on serial # 225 or 250 and below (can't remember the exact number). I got extremely lucky and was able to grab the only one with checkering that wasn't promised out. To top that off it has a serial # less than 100. I have a SN lower than 250 so it must be ones under 225 with checkering. |
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Posted: 6/7/2015 10:02:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DarkDrifter]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man:
perhaps using the word "drop in" is the issue...whatever the case, we know the remingtons work. As for GI vs. Commander, even Wilson specifies a difference: http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/safety-parts/safeties/1911-auto-drop-in-beavertail-grip-safety-prod16464.aspx?avs|Make_3=1911&avs|Manufacturer_1=wilson%20combat The "drop in" style is considered a commander, and the "grip" style is considered GI, at least as brownells has it listed. Panzer used a "grip" style IIRC. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man:
perhaps using the word "drop in" is the issue...whatever the case, we know the remingtons work. As for GI vs. Commander, even Wilson specifies a difference: http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/safety-parts/safeties/1911-auto-drop-in-beavertail-grip-safety-prod16464.aspx?avs|Make_3=1911&avs|Manufacturer_1=wilson%20combat The "drop in" style is considered a commander, and the "grip" style is considered GI, at least as brownells has it listed. Panzer used a "grip" style IIRC. You are very confused. Calling it COMMANDER beaver tail is the issue. Look at my picture again. #2 GI DROP IN. This is a Duck bill version, Panzer used a beaver tail version. #4 COMMANDER DROP IN, Wilson #429BC & #429SC. There are "commander" and "government" drop in. There are NOT a "commander" .250" radius beaver tails. The "Style" on the Brownell's web page is just how they populated the description. It means nothing. You can buy them direct from Wilson. They are Drop In. "Grip" means grip safety... still a drop in. Always has been. Wilson Combat DROP IN GOV'T SAFETY Our drop-in beavertail grip safety provides better control of your pistol while eliminating the discomfort and hammer bite that are possible with stock grip safeties. To return your gun to stock condition, simply re-install the factory part. The drop-in safety is designed to work with a commander style hammer or a bobbed spur hammer. Due to variations from one pistol to the next, slight modifications to the beavertail's trigger engagement area may be required for proper operation.
Compatible with the following pistols: Auto Ordnance 1911A1 Auto Ordnance Pit Bull Colt 1991A1 Colt Government Model Colt Gold Cup Ithaca 1911A1 Military Issue 1911A1 Norinco 1911 Para-Ordnance GI Expert Para-Ordnance P-12 Para-Ordnance P-13 Para-Ordnance P-14 Remington R1 Rock Island Armory Full-Size 1911 Rock River 1911 Springfield Armory Mil-Spec 1911 Wilson Combat DROP IN CMDR SAFETY Our drop-in beavertail grip safety provides better control of your pistol while eliminating the discomfort and hammer bite that are possible with stock grip safeties. To return your gun to stock condition, simply re-install the factory part. The drop-in safety is designed to work with a commander style hammer or a bobbed spur hammer. Due to variations from one pistol to the next, slight modifications to the beavertail's trigger engagement area may be required for proper operation.
Compatible with the following pistols: Colt Commander Model Colt Officer's Model Colt Enhanced Government Model Colt Enhanced Gold Cup ETA: It is probably further confusing by the fact that Wilson Combat does not make a .250" radius beaver tail.. that is because they only make BTs with the Wilson/Clark frame cut. http://shopwilsoncombat.com/Full-Fit-Grip-Safeties/products/37/ |
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Posted: 6/7/2015 11:31:09 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCLex:
I was told the other day that the checkering is on serial # 225 or 250 and below (can't remember the exact number). I got extremely lucky and was able to grab the only one with checkering that wasn't promised out. To top that off it has a serial # less than 100. this is not necessarily true... I have an OVER 250 serial number, albeit not m uch over that, but i have front strap checkering. |
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