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Posted: 7/31/2017 6:00:11 AM EDT
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The $2000 pre-order price is gone?
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Posted: 7/31/2017 3:07:52 PM EDT
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The $2000 pre-order price is gone? |
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Posted: 7/31/2017 3:55:26 PM EDT
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Well the pictures you have up on your site show that these Colt 203s are newer models with engraved markings. Perhaps the newer 40mm models that Colt is now making also have engraved markings, but all of the USGI Colt 203s I've ever seen (in pictures) have real roll marks. From a collectibility viewpoint, these things are basically worthless if they don't have the authentic roll marks. That won't stop some from paying the premium price just because of the name. But honestly, why would you do that when you can get Title 1 LMT 203s with actual roll marks for $1,200? LMT 203s have been used by the military just the same as Colts. I'm willing to bet a lot of the interest is from people seeing "Title 1 Colt m203" and not looking more closely at the actual product. I imagine many will not be happy to see the change in the markings. "Oh but isn't that just small stuff?" No it isn't, because the only people interested in dropping $2,000-$3,500 on this are going to be the diehard, detail-oriented collectors. $3,500-$5,000 for a real 40mm Colt M203 is worth it because of the roll marks, scarcity, and authenticity to what the military uses. The industry is moving away from the old school roll marking process due to efficiency. KAC does not roll mark. LMT quit doing it. Noveske quit doing it. Your post is fucking retarded. They are real Colt products. |
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Posted: 7/31/2017 6:08:53 PM EDT
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If you have bothered paying attention, all Colt rifles for the past 18 months have come with an engraved serial number and QR code. The industry is moving away from the old school roll marking process due to efficiency. KAC does not roll mark. LMT quit doing it. Noveske quit doing it. Your post is fucking retarded. They are real Colt products. |
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Posted: 7/31/2017 6:51:11 PM EDT
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Absolutely wrong. The nearly dozen M203s that we put out on the market this past year were all engraved and all sold for minimum of $3500 each
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While they are real colt products. They aren't the same ones that have brought top dollar in the past and that AU based the price off of |
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Posted: 8/1/2017 1:56:10 AM EDT
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crickets... I was in at $2000 For $3500 you can keep it. 
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Posted: 8/1/2017 10:22:03 AM EDT
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For the final time, they will be pre-sold at the $2,000 price as promised, just have patience, we have not yet put them in stock or allowed anyone to put a deposit etc
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Posted: 8/1/2017 12:30:49 PM EDT
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I for one will be purchasing one. 2K is a fair price. My only question is when will the pre-order begin.
18Z50......the 40mm solution! |
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Posted: 8/1/2017 1:03:46 PM EDT
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For the final time, they will be pre-sold at the $2,000 price as promised, just have patience, we have not yet put them in stock or allowed anyone to put a deposit etc Apologies if I missed the timeline somewhere. I am in for a 9" model. |
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Posted: 8/1/2017 1:09:05 PM EDT
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Due to overwhelming demand we will be running what we are calling a pre-sale on the launchers for the $2,000 price in the next week or so, all launchers will ship within 30 days of the sale. Once they start shipping price will increase to a higher amount until they are all sold. We have received enough dealer inquiries to sell out the entire lot without retail sales but have decided against that route as we would prefer to give our individual customers the chance to buy a legit Colt M203 without the second hand market price increase. The 40mm models which are identical (except for the tube diameter) sell for no less than $3,500 whenever you can find them and are highly restrictive, real buyers / collectors understand this and the amount of calls/emails we have received exceeded our expectations. Stay tuned.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Due to overwhelming demand we will be running what we are calling a pre-sale on the launchers for the $2,000 price in the next week or so, all launchers will ship within 30 days of the sale. Once they start shipping price will increase to a higher amount until they are all sold. We have received enough dealer inquiries to sell out the entire lot without retail sales but have decided against that route as we would prefer to give our individual customers the chance to buy a legit Colt M203 without the second hand market price increase. The 40mm models which are identical (except for the tube diameter) sell for no less than $3,500 whenever you can find them and are highly restrictive, real buyers / collectors understand this and the amount of calls/emails we have received exceeded our expectations. Stay tuned.... Quoted:
Our answer is we will be running them for $2,000 as we have said the whole time, that price is good for the people who act fast on them and will last a few weeks then we will increase the price. I will announce on here when our sales team puts them in stock on our website, anyone who signed up will be notified by email automatically as well. |
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Posted: 8/2/2017 8:55:56 PM EDT
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If you have bothered paying attention, all Colt rifles for the past 18 months have come with an engraved serial number and QR code. The industry is moving away from the old school roll marking process due to efficiency. KAC does not roll mark. LMT quit doing it. Noveske quit doing it. Your post is fucking retarded. They are real Colt products. LMT uses engravings on their rail-mounted 203s, but they still use roll marks on their barrel-mounted versions. How do I know? I own an LMT barrel-mounted 203. Shut up about what KAC and Noveske are doing. They're not Colt, and I couldn't care less about them. Btw, Colt hasn't completely switched over to engraving their ARs... even they know that would be a bad move. Of course these newly engraved Colt 203s are genuine Colt products. I still stand by my post. From a collector's point of view, the old-school roll marks are more desirable and will always command a higher price. I would not pay $3500 for one of these with the engraving, but so what? Others will, and good for Arms Unlimited--I hope they make a mint on these. |
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Posted: 8/3/2017 10:13:43 AM EDT
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CTHorton: You're the one with the retarded post. I'm well aware that Colt has started partially engraving their AR lowers, you condescending pig-headed motherfucker. I think it's a terribly stupid thing for Colt to do. Efficiency is a BS argument. The roll marks are what make Colt firearms--especially ARs and 203s--so collectible and highly desirable. Engravings are easy to replicate--roll marks are not. LMT uses engravings on their rail-mounted 203s, but they still use roll marks on their barrel-mounted versions. How do I know? I own an LMT barrel-mounted 203. Shut up about what KAC and Noveske are doing. They're not Colt, and I couldn't care less about them. Btw, Colt hasn't completely switched over to engraving their ARs... even they know that would be a bad move. Of course these newly engraved Colt 203s are genuine Colt products. I still stand by my post. From a collector's point of view, the old-school roll marks are more desirable and will always command a higher price. I would not pay $3500 for one of these with the engraving, but so what? Others will, and good for Arms Unlimited--I hope they make a mint on these. Their rifles are no longer roll marked. The era of roll marking is over. Yes people will pay more for them. Arms Unlimited has no control how a manufacture marks their product. |
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Posted: 8/3/2017 4:08:42 PM EDT
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Guess what. I own barrel mounted LMT M203s. Yes LMT is still roll marking barrel mounted launchers. Expect them to move away from roll marks on all production. Their rifles are no longer roll marked. The era of roll marking is over. Yes people will pay more for them. Arms Unlimited has no control how a manufacture marks their product. |
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Posted: 8/3/2017 4:46:08 PM EDT
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CTHorton: You're the one with the retarded post. I'm well aware that Colt has started partially engraving their AR lowers, you condescending pig-headed motherfucker. I think it's a terribly stupid thing for Colt to do. Efficiency is a BS argument. The roll marks are what make Colt firearms--especially ARs and 203s--so collectible and highly desirable. Engravings are easy to replicate--roll marks are not. LMT uses engravings on their rail-mounted 203s, but they still use roll marks on their barrel-mounted versions. How do I know? I own an LMT barrel-mounted 203. Shut up about what KAC and Noveske are doing. They're not Colt, and I couldn't care less about them. Btw, Colt hasn't completely switched over to engraving their ARs... even they know that would be a bad move. Of course these newly engraved Colt 203s are genuine Colt products. I still stand by my post. From a collector's point of view, the old-school roll marks are more desirable and will always command a higher price. I would not pay $3500 for one of these with the engraving, but so what? Others will, and good for Arms Unlimited--I hope they make a mint on these. |
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Posted: 8/3/2017 4:59:34 PM EDT
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Come on pre-order!
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Posted: 8/3/2017 6:12:01 PM EDT
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I don't know if he's a condescending pig-headed motherfucker or not. But he's not the one with the locked account. A few words amongst two who are passionate in their positions...why even meddle? Harmless, but direct. |
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Posted: 8/3/2017 7:00:45 PM EDT
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What happened to "he who moderates least, moderates best"? A few words amongst two who are passionate in their positions...why even meddle? Harmless, but direct. |
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Posted: 8/3/2017 7:43:02 PM EDT
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Because this is not GD. Posts that are made here are to be held to a much higher standard. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What happened to "he who moderates least, moderates best"? A few words amongst two who are passionate in their positions...why even meddle? Harmless, but direct. 6) Attacking or insulting a member in an effort to elicit a negative response. You have the right to disagree, but please do so in a respectful manner. |
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Posted: 8/3/2017 9:46:57 PM EDT
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Because this is not GD. Posts that are made here are to be held to a much higher standard. Sometimes the wrong words express the right sentiment and or feeling being conveyed. |
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Posted: 8/3/2017 9:54:28 PM EDT
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If you have bothered paying attention, all Colt rifles for the past 18 months have come with an engraved serial number and QR code. The industry is moving away from the old school roll marking process due to efficiency. KAC does not roll mark. LMT quit doing it. Noveske quit doing it. Your post is fucking retarded. They are real Colt products. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well the pictures you have up on your site show that these Colt 203s are newer models with engraved markings. Perhaps the newer 40mm models that Colt is now making also have engraved markings, but all of the USGI Colt 203s I've ever seen (in pictures) have real roll marks. From a collectibility viewpoint, these things are basically worthless if they don't have the authentic roll marks. That won't stop some from paying the premium price just because of the name. But honestly, why would you do that when you can get Title 1 LMT 203s with actual roll marks for $1,200? LMT 203s have been used by the military just the same as Colts. I'm willing to bet a lot of the interest is from people seeing "Title 1 Colt m203" and not looking more closely at the actual product. I imagine many will not be happy to see the change in the markings. "Oh but isn't that just small stuff?" No it isn't, because the only people interested in dropping $2,000-$3,500 on this are going to be the diehard, detail-oriented collectors. $3,500-$5,000 for a real 40mm Colt M203 is worth it because of the roll marks, scarcity, and authenticity to what the military uses. The industry is moving away from the old school roll marking process due to efficiency. KAC does not roll mark. LMT quit doing it. Noveske quit doing it. Your post is fucking retarded. They are real Colt products. |
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Posted: 8/3/2017 10:00:49 PM EDT
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This thread is now pure fanboy-ish cancer.
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Posted: 8/3/2017 10:21:08 PM EDT
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I havne't seen people troll a thread in Industry quite this hard in a while.
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Posted: 8/3/2017 10:34:09 PM EDT
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his thread is now pure fanboy-ish cancer. |
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Posted: 8/4/2017 10:33:39 AM EDT
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Time to bring this thread back on track!
Colt is making a Title 1 40mm marked M203A1 in 37mm. I never thought I'd see the day Colt would start making such items readily available to mere mortals! Truly these are the Golden years for the gun collecting and shooting community! 18Z50....the HE solution! |
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Posted: 8/4/2017 11:25:06 AM EDT
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Time to bring this thread back on track! Colt is making a Title 1 40mm marked M203A1 in 37mm. I never thought I'd see the day Colt would start making such items readily available to mere mortals! Truly these are the Golden years for the gun collecting and shooting community! 18Z50....the HE solution! |
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Posted: 8/4/2017 11:34:56 AM EDT
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You are correct...fan boyish describes most of what this thread is. Any dissenting opinion is met by fan boyish bandwagon thought. Any one asking a legitimate question or not knowing how the NFA applies to this glorified flare launcher is castrated on the spot...what ever happened to being informed and getting information from those in the know? Most posts are met with derogatory answers or sarcasm. Read thru what has been posted on this thread and tell me I am wrong... You guys act like hysterical girls if anyone raises a concern...no fan boys here...just fan girls. It should have been expected that these were going to be engraved, not roll marked. It is widely known these transfer on a 4473 as a non NFA firearm. |
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Posted: 8/4/2017 11:44:49 AM EDT
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..I also think what would be fair to all involved would be if the Dealer would post side by side an actual picture of the Origional roll marks along side of the actual m203 that will be for sale so people can make an informed purchase The same thing happened with Colt barrels marked with a C versus the cage code 13629 People want the C marked barrel. The dealer is not going to get stuck with inventory because a customer doesn't like how its marked from the factory. The dealer cannot go back to Colt and ask for an adjustment because they didn't arrive from Colt the way people wanted. |
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Posted: 8/4/2017 11:58:37 AM EDT
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Nearly every post by dissenters in this thread borders on accusing Colt/AI of wrongdoing, when there is no wrongdoing. It should have been expected that these were going to be engraved, not roll marked. It is widely known these transfer on a 4473 as a non NFA firearm. They said if I decided to go ahead with this purchase, it would be a good idea to get something in writing from Colt on these units. UA was a bit selective in the dissemination of information. That is what I have issue with. Being involved in many group buys, I have learned to get the info out right the first time. |
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Posted: 8/4/2017 12:04:46 PM EDT
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Disagree. The same thing happened with Colt barrels marked with a C versus the cage code 13629 People want the C marked barrel. The dealer is not going to get stuck with inventory because a customer doesn't like how its marked from the factory. The dealer cannot go back to Colt and ask for an adjustment because they didn't arrive from Colt the way people wanted. |
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Posted: 8/4/2017 12:31:23 PM EDT
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Before commenting on this thread I spoke with a Colt distributor regarding these so called M203 launchers...they had more questions for me than I had answers. They were just as concerned about these Colt M203 launchers being marked for 40mm and coming with 37mm tubes. They also expressed concern about the registry of these receivers...whether or not they were listed on the registry to begin with. If they were, they indicated it was next to impossible to remove that many. They said if I decided to go ahead with this purchase, it would be a good idea to get something in writing from Colt on these units. UA was a bit selective in the dissemination of information. That is what I have issue with. Being involved in many group buys, I have learned to get the info out right the first time. These are no different than (and transfer the same as) any of the LMT 40mm barrel-less receivers that are regularly sold on the market today, except that these launchers also happen to include COMPLETELY LEGAL 37mm smoothbore tubes on them. Perhaps your "feels" would be better appeased if UA simply had the 37mm tubes packaged separately from the receiver? Either way though, it wouldn't change their status as (perfectly legal to purchase & own here in Florida) title 1 weapons. |
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Posted: 8/4/2017 12:57:34 PM EDT
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So,unless I misunderstand you.....You don't think Collectors should be able to make an informed purchase and see what they are buying....A clear picture of the markings would help everybody |
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Posted: 8/4/2017 2:34:08 PM EDT
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So,unless I misunderstand you.....You don't think Collectors should be able to make an informed purchase and see what they are buying....A clear picture of the markings would help everybody |
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Posted: 8/4/2017 2:50:40 PM EDT
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A colt collector that knows what he is doing already knows how these are marked. |
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Posted: 8/5/2017 10:19:34 AM EDT
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A colt collector that knows what he is doing already knows how these are marked. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 9:52:29 PM EDT
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Were these sold already?
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Posted: 8/16/2017 11:20:10 PM EDT
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Were these sold already? |
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Posted: 8/29/2017 11:34:35 PM EDT
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Any updates to this? Are they being released soon?
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Posted: 9/6/2017 8:27:45 PM EDT
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Just checking in... don't want to miss out !
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Posted: 9/6/2017 8:33:29 PM EDT
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Just checking in... don't want to miss out ! Oh wait. Maybe they meant September |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:42:50 PM EDT
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Management has not given me a definite release date. There are other items they are releasing first, I believe more AR15A3 lightweight stripped lowers and some camo color stripped uppers
In the meantime the launchers are sitting in our warehouse, sounds like end of September or start of October, they want to drop them closer to holiday time |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 12:51:18 AM EDT
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Management has not given me a definite release date. There are other items they are releasing first, I believe more AR15A3 lightweight stripped lowers and some camo color stripped uppers In the meantime the launchers are sitting in our warehouse, sounds like end of September or start of October, they want to drop them closer to holiday time Cheers! 
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Posted: 9/7/2017 6:27:38 PM EDT
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Management has not given me a definite release date. There are other items they are releasing first, I believe more AR15A3 lightweight stripped lowers and some camo color stripped uppers In the meantime the launchers are sitting in our warehouse, sounds like end of September or start of October, they want to drop them closer to holiday time Can we get a pic of them sitting in their crates |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 7:04:36 PM EDT
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Management has not given me a definite release date. There are other items they are releasing first, I believe more AR15A3 lightweight stripped lowers and some camo color stripped uppers In the meantime the launchers are sitting in our warehouse, sounds like end of September or start of October, they want to drop them closer to holiday time Considering the higher cost on these items, why would you sell lower cost goods ahead of time? Sounds like someone is telling a fib. |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 8:17:48 PM EDT
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What are the odds these are not sold to those who think they are getting them? In your case - Here's to hoping that probability is 100%.
Considering the higher cost on these items, why would you sell lower cost goods ahead of time? Sounds like someone is telling a fib. 
Considering how much you have trolled against this item since it's original announcement, as well as your current insinuation that AU must now deliberately be making some kind of false statement(s) about it, the real wonder is why one of the industry mods haven't yet blocked you from your continued troll-posting in this forum...
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Posted: 9/7/2017 8:46:49 PM EDT
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Considering how much you have trolled against this item since it's original announcement, as well as your current insinuation that AU must now deliberately be making some kind of false statement(s) about it, the real wonder is why one of the industry mods haven't yet blocked you from your continued troll-posting in this forum... AU has said many things and not followed thru on others. They misrepresented the offering to begin with and then when myself and others asked for clarification, all of the fan boys jumped all over us. They changed the delivery date, did not communicate the delay until someone noticed the offering was changed to reflect a higher price. AU has been on the reactive side of communicating rather than the proactive side. I am not the only one to ask questions, and rightfully so. Things did not add up for me from the get go and the same with others. It seems that sentiment is still with me and shared by others. The late release has only added to the frustration many are feeling about this deal. I simply have chosen to be a little more vocal about it than others. If the mods want to flag me or close down my account for my actions, so be it. |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 9:02:15 PM EDT
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We've said things and not followed through on others? What do you mean like releasing rare Colt items such as SCW stocks, stripped receivers, commandos, cutaways, etc
Misrepresented? Please tell me more, because I issue statements on what is going on behind the scenes merely as a courtesy to the AR15.com members, not taking money making excuses and failing to deliver Pricing is going to be where we've said, we have always been fair on pricing throughout our site, just because someone noticed a change before anything was put in stock and immediately reported it does not mean anything, when you are able to click BUY and add the M203 to your cart that is when you can complain about pricing if you still have any complaints at that time We have not heard any frustration from anyone on waiting for the release of these, they've waited 40+ years to be able to buy one as a Title1, we doubt a few more weeks is an issue You continue to shop with us despite all your criticism, in god we trust, all others pay cash and the cash register never lies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
You must be one of the sheep... AU has said many things and not followed thru on others. They misrepresented the offering to begin with and then when myself and others asked for clarification, all of the fan boys jumped all over us. They changed the delivery date, did not communicate the delay until someone noticed the offering was changed to reflect a higher price. AU has been on the reactive side of communicating rather than the proactive side. I am not the only one to ask questions, and rightfully so. Things did not add up for me from the get go and the same with others. It seems that sentiment is still with me and shared by others. The late release has only added to the frustration many are feeling about this deal. I simply have chosen to be a little more vocal about it than others. If the mods want to flag me or close down my account for my actions, so be it. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 11:22:28 AM EDT
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I have to agree. Something doesn't sound right here. None of this makes any business sense. Sitting on the inventory and wanting to pre-sale? Not shipping right away? No pics?
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Posted: 9/15/2017 11:54:20 AM EDT
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I have to agree. Something doesn't sound right here. None of this makes any business sense. Sitting on the inventory and wanting to pre-sale? Not shipping right away? No pics? 
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Posted: 9/16/2017 12:36:14 AM EDT
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I have to agree. Something doesn't sound right here. None of this makes any business sense. Sitting on the inventory and wanting to pre-sale? Not shipping right away? No pics? |
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Posted: 9/16/2017 8:25:33 AM EDT
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I have to agree. Something doesn't sound right here. None of this makes any business sense. Sitting on the inventory and wanting to pre-sale? Not shipping right away? No pics? Just noticed there's supposed to be 300 units. Isn't that the number required for colt to do a special run of something. Maybe they are behind on orders |
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