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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2019 12:07:30 PM EDT
I'm kind of a buy once cry once guy, but 300 bucks for a hog saddle is a little steep, especially if the pig saddle is just as good. Real world uses would be hunting, slim possiblity of shooting 500 yards standing up, and just scanning. Is it better to get the more robust hog saddle or will the pig saddle fit the bill?
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Posted: 1/21/2019 1:15:31 PM EDT
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I've used them both and own the Hog Saddle. When you put them side by side, You can certainly see the difference in how much more robust the metal of the Hog Saddle is. Having said that, the Pig Saddle is very functional and quite a bit lighter. It may actually be the better choice if you're wanting to shave some weight for a hunting rig.
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Posted: 1/21/2019 1:18:40 PM EDT
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Kopfjager is superior to both.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2019 2:24:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BCV:
Kopfjager is superior to both. |
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Posted: 1/21/2019 3:05:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Demphna2:
I've looked at the reaper rest as well. What makes it superior? |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2019 11:42:32 PM EDT
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I haven’t tried a tripod but it seems like a rail of some sort would be quite a bit cheaper and a sturdy connection. Is there a “budget” connection with a pic rail or mounting a camera style mount that is serviceable to try it out?
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:40:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AKSnowRider]
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Swiss-Arca is better yet, of course you would have to screw a rail to the bottom of your stock or invest in a stock/chassis that uses Swiss-Arca already like MPA...Plus, they are super cheap, widely available in a variety of lengths and styles, extremely light weight and easy to use...You also don't have to keep swapping this for that to use your rifle/spotter/LRRF on the same tripod..
 Attached FileI have a 6" rail I use to mount both my spotter and my LRRF at the same time..works great..  Attached File |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 1/23/2019 11:27:25 AM EDT
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Is that similar to the trapezoidal qd Mount that comes with some tripods?
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Posted: 1/25/2019 8:05:43 PM EDT
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Is there any functional difference between the pig saddle and hog saddle?
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Posted: 1/25/2019 8:21:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSnowRider:
...Swiss-Arca... |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2019 1:40:58 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By right_rudder:
Is there any functional difference between the pig saddle and hog saddle? |
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Posted: 1/27/2019 1:53:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew: This is the correct answer. Really Right Stuff sells an MLOK-Swiss Arca plate for $50. Lighter, cheaper, lower profile, and more stable than any of the saddle options. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/12/2019 11:06:33 PM EDT
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As a few others have stated, if you truly are about buying once and crying once, just get the ARCA system going. If you stay in the game, you'll end up with it at some point, just get it done now.
Check Henderson Precision out. They've got a great product for the cash. |
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Posted: 3/15/2019 6:42:51 PM EDT
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neither, RRS
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/20/2019 1:29:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DevL]
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Have a RRS keymod plate for a gen 1 Ruger Precision. Its horribly sloppy. The rail itself bends and buckles under the plate like an empty coke can so it has very poor stability. You need a longer rail to attach to many points if you want stability and a stiff rail too. MLOK is slightly better than Keymod as the connection has more meat You need 4 bolts mininum to bolt on an ARCA rail to an AR rail system. 3 will not cut it because too much torque will transfer to bolts and warp the rail.
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Posted: 3/20/2019 1:44:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DevL:
Have a RRS keymod plate for a gen 1 Ruger Precision. Its horribly sloppy. The rail itself bends and buckles under the plate like an empty coke can so it has very poor stability. You need a longer rail to attach to many points if you want stability and a stiff rail too. MLOK is slightly better than Keymod as the connection has more meat You need 4 bolts mininum to bolt on an ARCA rail to an AR rail system. 3 will not cut it because too much torque will transfer to bolts and warp the rail.  Attached File Attached Filehttps://masterpiecearms.com/shop/mpa-rat-dovetail-adapter-plate/ |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/25/2019 5:42:37 PM EDT
[#16]
The pig saddle
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Posted: 8/8/2019 1:06:49 PM EDT
[#17]
I like the PIG Saddle. You don't need to make any modifications to your rifle, and your hunting partners can set their rifles in it is as well.
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Posted: 8/9/2019 11:57:16 AM EDT
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Spoke with a sniper on our team. He has a Pig Saddle and says he loves it. I ordered one today from our Brownells Overlords
 . $129 w/ free shipping. I have a stable tripod to mount it to for use sitting/kneeling/standing. I thought it would be good for my girls to use on their deer hunts out of a blind this fall. (That's how I justified it to Mama anyhow)
I have a Caldwell DeadShot FieldPod MAX and it works good for minute of deer/steel shots out to 2-300, but is a little wobbly for shooting groups. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 2:03:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orangehat762:
Spoke with a sniper on our team. He has a Pig Saddle and says he loves it. I ordered one today from our Brownells Overlords . $129 w/ free shipping. I have a stable tripod to mount it to for use sitting/kneeling/standing. I thought it would be good for my girls to use on their deer hunts out of a blind this fall. (That's how I justified it to Mama anyhow)
I have a Caldwell DeadShot FieldPod MAX and it works good for minute of deer/steel shots out to 2-300, but is a little wobbly for shooting groups. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 5:14:35 PM EDT
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Any of the pod-type products I've seen or purchased in the big box stores have been mediocre at best, total failures normally.
They get sales based on packaging, colors, advertising, and placement in the stores, not performance. As a general rule, save yourself the money and avoid big store, mass-produced garbage that is meant to separate you from your money with a gimmick and not much else. |
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Posted: 9/23/2019 11:16:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BubbasBarNGrill]
[#21]
I’ve tried them all. Pig/hog, knockoff saddle holder. Even shot off tripod with a platform and a game changer. They all suck
Arca Swiss all things. I have switched everything to arca mounts, rifles, spotting scoeps, even binos. Just put a Catalyst arms handguard on one of my RPRs. The whole bottom is arca dovetail. Just waiting on Atlas adapter/barricade stop, and I’ll have everything in arca. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 3:52:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By saabdrifter:
I’ve tried them all. Pig/hog, knockoff saddle holder. Even shot off tripod with a platform and a game changer. They all suck Arca Swiss all things. I have switched everything to arca mounts, rifles, spotting shops, even binos. Just put a Catalyst arms handguard on one of my RPRs. The whole bottom is arca dovetail. Just waiting on Atlas adapter/barricade stop, and I’ll have everything in arca. In fact, I'll be getting my own PIG Saddle due to the versatility of being able to use it on many different long arms without the need for adapters. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 6:01:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew:
I don't know what you're doing wrong, but I get comparable groups- around .6"- with my 6.5CM AR off of my brother's PIG Saddle or using my RRS Arca-Swiss MLOK adapter. In fact, I'll be getting my own PIG Saddle due to the versatility of being able to use it on many different long arms without the need for adapters. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew:
Originally Posted By saabdrifter:
I’ve tried them all. Pig/hog, knockoff saddle holder. Even shot off tripod with a platform and a game changer. They all suck Arca Swiss all things. I have switched everything to arca mounts, rifles, spotting shops, even binos. Just put a Catalyst arms handguard on one of my RPRs. The whole bottom is arca dovetail. Just waiting on Atlas adapter/barricade stop, and I’ll have everything in arca. In fact, I'll be getting my own PIG Saddle due to the versatility of being able to use it on many different long arms without the need for adapters. Every Hog or Pig saddle I have shot off had freeplay. In the mount, or the head itself. Not conducive to precision shooting. For me, using acra system is dead on locked up. Zero freeplay in head, ball or mounting. It's every bit as easy/fast to drop my rifle onto arca mount as it is as saddle type mount. I shoot a few matches a year. One match with over 200 shooters. 4 years ago everyone had a saddle type mount on their tripod. Last two years, no one using them anymore, not one. |
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Posted: 9/25/2019 1:35:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By saabdrifter:
I’ve tried them all. Pig/hog, knockoff saddle holder. Even shot off tripod with a platform and a game changer. They all suck Arca Swiss all things. I have switched everything to arca mounts, rifles, spotting scoeps, even binos. Just put a Catalyst arms handguard on one of my RPRs. The whole bottom is arca dovetail. Just waiting on Atlas adapter/barricade stop, and I’ll have everything in arca. |
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Posted: 9/25/2019 1:46:07 PM EDT
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I'm in the Arca Swiss camp. I've got MDT Mlok Arca Swiss plates for my rifles that I use on the tripods. My laser range finder and spotting scope are also on arca swiss mounts.
https://www.opticsplanet.com/mdt-arca-swiss-m-lok-rail-adapter.html I keep a Precision Rifle Solutions SSP on an Arca Swiss mount in case I want to use a different rifle or let a friend use the tripod. https://www.precisionriflesolutions.com/apps/webstore/products/show/838250  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 10/9/2019 11:48:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mcbjus]
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Trying to decide between the 2 ( Arca or Pig/Hog ) my self. I have a Nice field Optics Tripod and Pan Head i use for a spotter setup. I think it is an Arca setup as it is. I am not 100% sure hot to confirm. Maybe you guys who know more can help me with that. http://www.fieldopticsresearch.com/shop/Tripods--Accessories/p/MicroLite-FT5017C-x32189672.htmPan Head
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KY, USA
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Posted: 10/9/2019 11:52:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mcbjus]
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http://www.fieldopticsresearch.com/shop/c/p/Pan-Head-FPH230-x32206470.htm
I see they have other heads available, but would the head i have do the job or would i be better off buying a new head all together? I know I would have to have a rail like this to work with whatever head I needed as well if my head would not work. http://www.fieldopticsresearch.com/shop/Weapon-Support-Systems-Tripod-Mounts/p/FM-210-M-LOK-Rail-Mount-x32205583.htm |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 3:02:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcbjus:
http://www.fieldopticsresearch.com/shop/c/p/Pan-Head-FPH230-x32206470.htm I see they have other heads available, but would the head i have do the job or would i be better off buying a new head all together? I know I would have to have a rail like this to work with whatever head I needed as well if my head would not work. http://www.fieldopticsresearch.com/shop/Weapon-Support-Systems-Tripod-Mounts/p/FM-210-M-LOK-Rail-Mount-x32205583.htm https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M4LQ8P6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 5:41:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSnowRider:
What you have should work fine, I think I would replace the pan head with a ballhead(I did on 2 of my tripods), I think the ballhead is much easier to use..But otherwise it looks like it will work...The Swiss-arca rails are just under 1.5" wide, makes it easy to identify them...This is the head I put on mine, rated for 17 pounds, and its been flawless... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M4LQ8P6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 10/10/2019 11:25:30 AM EDT
[#30]
Thanks guys. What about this head that will accept Pic rail or Arca.....head
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Posted: 10/10/2019 1:02:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcbjus:
Thanks guys. What about this head that will accept Pic rail or Arca.....head  Attached FileShould work fine... |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 5:56:50 PM EDT
[#32]
I'd like to try the Arca Swiss system.
Where is the best place to buy it (best as in delivered price and guaranteed its legit product). Would like to try it out on one rifle for now. I have mlok, keymod and pic rails. |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 7:51:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Steamedliver:
I'd like to try the Arca Swiss system. Where is the best place to buy it (best as in delivered price and guaranteed its legit product). Would like to try it out on one rifle for now. I have mlok, keymod and pic rails. |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 9:37:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Steamedliver:
I'd like to try the Arca Swiss system. Where is the best place to buy it (best as in delivered price and guaranteed its legit product). Would like to try it out on one rifle for now. I have mlok, keymod and pic rails. For ArcaSwiss to rails, I screwed an ADM mount to an ArcaSwiss plate I bought off Amazon. I haven't tries adapting it to keymod. |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 9:39:18 PM EDT
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Got to 800 yards today. Unfortunately with the wind bucking around I didn't get hits farther out.
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KY, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2019 10:43:51 AM EDT
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I went ahead and ordered that head. I appreciate the help. Now I wait.... Then order rails ans needed...
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