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Posted: 12/24/2019 11:19:22 AM EDT
I currently own no bolt guns and have only had a basic 700 .308 previously. Taking a long range 2 day class in March and need something more appropriate than my DPMS Recon 16” .308
I’m a huge semi auto fan and have many battle rifles and AR’s. Trying to decide between a 6.5cr bolt gun and a 6.5cr AR10. I will be running suppressed so 18-22 inch barrels is what I’m thinking. SR25/DPMS mags are preferred because I have a bunch. I have industry pricing setup from most of the companies I will mention: The Fix by Q - love the looks and cool design. Might be too light. I’ve ready of heavy bolt lift, but this thing is sweet. Only comes with a 16” barrel now but Q said I can choose proof research or another barrel length and they will work with me Christensen Arms Modern Precision Rifle - very high quality, great trigger, carbon barrel available. Not as cool as The Fix. POF Revolution AR10 direct impingement - many amazing features that no other AR manufacturer offers. 20” fluted barrel is perfect and a great trigger. Christensen Arms Modern Sporting Rifle AR10 - can get a carbon barrel, don’t know much about their accuracy Modern Outfitters/Brace Built MC7 AR10 - can’t find too much info about this one, but looks great and has a carbon barrel option. Suggest any others I should consider. |
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Also interested
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[#2]
https://masterpiecearms.com/shop/mpa-6-5ba-creedmoor-bolt-action-rifle/
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[#3]
I lusted for a Fix the minute I saw a picture. Then I shot one. I chose an RPR over the Fix, and am very happy I did.
While it looks cool, it's not a good choice for what you want to do. It would be a good light hunting rifle. It's too light. Bolt lift and feeding issues are real. Find a factory MPA rifle. Then go shoot I'm on to my next project, Defiance, MPA build |
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I owned a Fix and sold it. Don’t regret it. Not that it was a bad gun, it wasn’t, it just didn’t suit my style of shooting. If I was humping a rifle up a mountain to shoot a deer or elk, then it’s a great rifle. But for bench and prone shooting, it’s not.
I would suggest you look at a Seekins Havak or a Bergara HMR Pro, then use the extra money on glass. My HMR Pro shot better than my fix. Attached File |
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IG @Venoindustries
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[#5]
Originally Posted By Demphna2:
https://masterpiecearms.com/shop/mpa-6-5ba-creedmoor-bolt-action-rifle/ View Quote Then I built my end-all be-all semi-auto in 6.5cm. OP really should get both. |
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"History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives."-Abba Eban
"I like it both ways, but still mainly mouth it" -gonzo_beyondo |
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See the pattern on Fix owners? Cool is only good for a little while.
Look here for a rifle. Buy a good solid bolt gun. You will save money. https://forum.snipershide.com/forums/firearms-buy-sell-trade/ |
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http://www.teamblaster.net
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If you go the bolt route, I challenge you to find an unhappy tikka tac a1 owner,I love mine.As far as SA, have you looked at JP ?
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Originally Posted By rob78: This is what I got and have been tickled shitless with the results. Just a great rifle and the Spencer barrels they're putting on them are excellent. I've got 2,200 rounds threw mine and it just keeps shooting knots. Then I built my end-all be-all semi-auto in 6.5cm. OP really should get both. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By hartzpad:
Are you going to tell us what your end-all be-all semi auto is? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By hartzpad:
Originally Posted By rob78: This is what I got and have been tickled shitless with the results. Just a great rifle and the Spencer barrels they're putting on them are excellent. I've got 2,200 rounds threw mine and it just keeps shooting knots. Then I built my end-all be-all semi-auto in 6.5cm. OP really should get both. Mega matched upper and lower. SLR handguard JP FMOS BCG Geissele HSNM Kreiger 22" barrel (6.5cm) SLR adjustable block PWS brake UBR (now a PRS) stock Miad grip Slash Heavy Buffer Titanium take down pins (don't recall mfg) Tubbs Flatwire spring Atlas PSR bipod. S&B PMII 5-25x56 It's a heavy bitch, but it shoots well. I'll shoot it when I'm letting my barrel cool on my bolt gun. |
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"History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives."-Abba Eban
"I like it both ways, but still mainly mouth it" -gonzo_beyondo |
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[#10]
Originally Posted By hartzpad:
I currently own no bolt guns and have only had a basic 700 .308 previously. Taking a long range 2 day class in March and need something more appropriate than my DPMS Recon 16” .308 I’m a huge semi auto fan and have many battle rifles and AR’s. Trying to decide between a 6.5cr bolt gun and a 6.5cr AR10. I will be running suppressed so 18-22 inch barrels is what I’m thinking. SR25/DPMS mags are preferred because I have a bunch. I have industry pricing setup from most of the companies I will mention: The Fix by Q - love the looks and cool design. Might be too light. I’ve ready of heavy bolt lift, but this thing is sweet. Only comes with a 16” barrel now but Q said I can choose proof research or another barrel length and they will work with me Christensen Arms Modern Precision Rifle - very high quality, great trigger, carbon barrel available. Not as cool as The Fix. POF Revolution AR10 direct impingement - many amazing features that no other AR manufacturer offers. 20” fluted barrel is perfect and a great trigger. Christensen Arms Modern Sporting Rifle AR10 - can get a carbon barrel, don’t know much about their accuracy Modern Outfitters/Brace Built MC7 AR10 - can’t find too much info about this one, but looks great and has a carbon barrel option. Suggest any others I should consider. View Quote you seem to be drawn towards to carbon barrels. while they have proven to be as accurate as a traditional barrel, I am not sure how shootable they are for longer strings of fire or how they are in terms of recoil management. Maybe Consider a Tikka t3x dropped into a chassis |
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[#11]
I have this vision in my head:
Fix in 6.5 Nightforce NX8 in a Geissele mount Atlas or KAC bipod And I want this set up and yet stopping me are these post....and correct, mostly read about Fix owners liking for a while and then selling.... Never see and "fantastic" or "excellent rifle" comments.... I see more of the Fix is the answer to a nonexistent problem... I was actually going to buy one this weekend 77 |
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[#13]
If you really dig the fix take a look at the sig cross save u $$$
But I 3rd the mpa rifle or a jp 308 if u don't build one |
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[#14]
Buy an MPA, you will love the damn thing...I built mine, but if I had the money I would buy in a heartbeat...
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[#15]
Just my 2 cents, but I'd go with a 260 if going with a gas gun, or if you're going with a bolt rifle I'd go with a 6.5 PRC or 6.5 SAUM.
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Wait for awhile, new Sig Cross is coming out for half the price.
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[#18]
I owned a Q and do not think it worth the coin.
Id pass on the AR10 as well. Put a chassis on a Tikka t3x ctr Or just buy the tac A1 and you will have the most for your money. |
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"Or just buy the tac A1 and you will have the most for your money. "
that is my suggestion owning two Tikkas and ended up dropping them both into a chassis. just do it right the first time and don't look back |
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[#20]
What about a Sako TRG in 6.5?
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[#21]
Originally Posted By BCV:
I owned a Fix and sold it. Don’t regret it. Not that it was a bad gun, it wasn’t, it just didn’t suit my style of shooting. If I was humping a rifle up a mountain to shoot a deer or elk, then it’s a great rifle. But for bench and prone shooting, it’s not. I would suggest you look at a Seekins Havak or a Bergara HMR Pro, then use the extra money on glass. My HMR Pro shot better than my fix. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/275881/1D8882B4-C47D-41C2-8CD1-4FDFC26BFF16_jpeg-1207554.JPG View Quote |
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[#22]
I’m sure the masterpiece is awesome but I couldn’t drop that amount of money on a rifle made by the company that also makes mac10 clones
Be like buying a precision rifle from keltec |
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If you decide to buy a Fix, make sure you have a can for it to mitigate the recoil since it’s such a light gun. I have one of the first that hit the market with the Bartlein barrels and the gun is extremely accurate. The ones hitting the stores today have Green Mountain barrels and from what I’ve seen are good, but maybe not quite as good. As for the feeding issues, I have not experienced a single issue so I’m not sure how to comment on that. YMMV.
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Stumbling on the stepstool of mediocracy...
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Originally Posted By glocktalk:
I’m sure the masterpiece is awesome but I couldn’t drop that amount of money on a rifle made by the company that also makes mac10 clones Be like buying a precision rifle from keltec View Quote https://precisionrifleblog.com/2019/01/12/best-rifle-chassis-stocks/ |
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Originally Posted By glocktalk:
I’m sure the masterpiece is awesome but I couldn’t drop that amount of money on a rifle made by the company that also makes mac10 clones Be like buying a precision rifle from keltec View Quote |
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"History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives."-Abba Eban
"I like it both ways, but still mainly mouth it" -gonzo_beyondo |
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Originally Posted By rugster: Masterpiece Arms, it’s a no brainer. https://i.loli.net/2020/01/04/IpFzjK9qgfDuw6t.jpg View Quote For what? Punching holes in paper? That thing must be close to 30lbs |
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AEKDB
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Originally Posted By Hunter8793: For what? Punching holes in paper? That thing must be close to 30lbs View Quote LOL..you should do some research, they actually build one of the lightest chassis on the market at 2.5 pds, complete...Even the chassis pictured can be as light as 3 pounds, depending on configuration... My MPA chassis bolt rifle is a pig at 15 pounds, but it has as much to do with barrel profile(28" medium Palma Bartlein), the gen 2 razor 4.5-27-56 scope, and a few other choices I made specifically for it's intended use, and I could have easily selected similar components from the same makers and had it under 10 pounds...MPA builds some very very nice stuff at very reasonable prices... |
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[#28]
Check out a Sako TRG 22 in 6.5 creed at europtic. Great rifle out of the box.
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[#29]
At $2500-3000 it is hard to beat a TRG for a general use precision rifle. They are not heavy compared to others, have a lot of adjustability while remaining very streamlined and easy to carry. Magazines also accommodate very long loaded OALs.
The MPA above is a pretty good suggestion if you want something more optimized for PRS/NRL matches. |
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A Sako TRG or my fav, a Tikka Tactical in any decent caliber will do very nicely for me.
I did run across a guy w/ a new FIX 6.5 and after admiring it mighty hard and examining a lot of the 'neat' features (and there's a few, to be sure) he was gracious enough to let me, a complete stranger, shoot his new baby. Oh my it was nice; that trigger is almost a religious experience but from a piece costing around 6K w/ glass, I'd expect no less. Having had a week or so to consider, as cool as it is, I think I concur w/ the statement that it would be a very tough pkg to beat for real high country long shots. Sadly my knees won't get me to altitude anymore so I'm going to put $$$ into more components and shoot what I have. I've never owned anything as cool as this and likely never will but truthfully there's a lot of rifles which will shoot just as well, maybe better and, .at a better price point which is something I really identify with. Yes, I'm cheap. |
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[#31]
Knights.
While I like Q's offerings, I don't really feel like doing business with them and while their stuff is cool, you get a lot more benefit from knights for the $ spent. |
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Originally Posted By HullBreach: Nah I bought a gun because stabbing people with bullets just doesn't carry the same message of "Get the fuck out of my house"
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