I tried another officers the other day and they were like a second skin and were very grippy. I found out yesterday that they were Damascus Stealth X with Airprene. So I ordered a pair from Galls today. They were very good gloves with great dexterity, like a said a second skin. They were only $24 so I won't be to dissappointed if they don;t last a whole year. Anyway, they are perfect for shooting or patrol, ect, where you need to be able to do everything you would normally do without gloves. Damascus has a very good warranty also. Thanks for the help though everyone.