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I'll take "It's a hoax" for $500 Alex.
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I'll take "It's a hoax" for $500 Alex. World net Daily? Are they reputable? They have a birth certif at least. |
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Now that I've seen the magnified pic of that document, it DEFINATELY is shopped.
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Quoted: Now that I've seen the magnified pic of that document, it DEFINATELY is shopped. JPEG artifacts. Document [whether forged or not] is a real piece of paper. |
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Now that I've seen the magnified pic of that document, it DEFINATELY is shopped. yea ok? |
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We had a 14? page thread on this yesterday and today that got locked because some asshats still haven't realized that threatening the life of the President is not acceptable behavior
The Kenya document looks very authentic (similar to all the British documents I have seen from the middle third of the 20th century) and the main perceived flaw in it is that it refers to the Republic of Kenya at a time when Kenya was still in the process of transitioning from a dominion to a republic. The date on the document is interesting in that it matches up with when Obama's mother would have needed proof of birth as part of her divorce from Obama's father. Is it real? possibly but probably not, I would like to see the court c ase go forward in order to have the document fully authenticated or debunked. |
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OK.........so they have pictures of both his Hawaii cert and a Kenyan cert on the web........
Which one do you believe ? |
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I'll take "It's a hoax" for $500 Alex. World net Daily? Are they reputable? Why are the not? I don't read their news but have read some books they've published. |
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Quoted: This is a jpeg photograph of the actual document which is retained by Orly Taitz or someoneQuoted: Now that I've seen the magnified pic of that document, it DEFINATELY is shopped. JPEG artifacts. Document [whether forged or not] is a real piece of paper. |
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Quoted: OK.........so they have pictures of both his Hawaii cert and a Kenyan cert on the web........ Which one do you believe ? I believe that there is a record of Obama's birth in Hawaii, the question is was that birth witnessed by medical personnel or was it just a report of the birth made by the mother? If his birth on record in Hawaii is based solely on his mother's word that does not preclude him actually having been born elsewhere. That is what I would like to see investigated further as Obama's refusal to allow the full release of Hawaii records is an affront to the Constitution and it's requirement that the President be a natural-born Citizen. |
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This is a jpeg photograph of the actual document which is retained by Orly Taitz or someone
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Now that I've seen the magnified pic of that document, it DEFINATELY is shopped. JPEG artifacts. Document [whether forged or not] is a real piece of paper. Where there's smoke, there's smoke? |
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Hey Dan, Dan Rather, is this real? Perhaps it is a forgery , but with factual information. What do you say Dan?
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I'll take "It's a hoax" for $500 Alex. World net Daily? Are they reputable? Why are the not? I don't read their news but have read some books they've published. So they are reputable? I really wasn't sure. |
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Hey Dan, Dan Rather, is this real? Perhaps it is a forgery , but with factual information. What do you say Dan? I say I dunno. |
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wont matter even if it is real.. it will go to court which will take forever , then IF it is ruled that obama isnt a natural born then b y the time they get done dragging their politically correct feet on how to impeach the first black president his term of office wil lbe over and it wont matter anyway.. so whats the point other than making a point?
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OK.........so they have pictures of both his Hawaii cert and a Kenyan cert on the web........ Which one do you believe ? I believe that there is a record of Obama's birth in Hawaii, the question is was that birth witnessed by medical personnel or was it just a report of the birth made by the mother? If his birth on record in Hawaii is based solely on his mother's word that does not preclude him actually having been born elsewhere. That is what I would like to see investigated further as Obama's refusal to allow the full release of Hawaii records is an affront to the Constitution and it's requirement that the President be a natural-born Citizen. His mother was known to lie about all kinds of things to mooch services from the state. |
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What happens if you were born somewhere while your parents were on vacation. Say to Canada, and you popped out premature. Would that stop you from being the POTUS, if both your parents were US citizens?
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In on one this time. +1 +2 Best screen name EVER |
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With this kind of evidence, I am sure that obama will be stepping down any day now...
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What happens if you were born somewhere while your parents were on vacation. Say to Canada, and you popped out premature. Would that stop you from being the POTUS, if both your parents were US citizens? A child born to a US citizen has US citizenship conferred upon them by virtue of their parents. They are considered Natural Born. In the case of Obama, his mother was 17 at the time he was born, and therefore, if he was not born on US soil, she was not old enough to confer citizenship upon him. That's the reality of living your life as a leftist radical, on the fringes of society. |
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Its probably fake, but like everybody else, I'd just like this issue cleared up once and for all.
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Kenya wasn't the Republic of Kenya until 1964...
That document cites 1961. Oops. |
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Its probably fake, but like everybody else, I'd just like this issue cleared up once and for all. That was my point all said and done. If its real get his ass out of there, if its fake, show the real one and I will shut the fuck up! |
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What happens if you were born somewhere while your parents were on vacation. Say to Canada, and you popped out premature. Would that stop you from being the POTUS, if both your parents were US citizens? If both your parents were citizens, it wouldn't matter. In BHOs case it would. His mother was a citizen but did not have the US residency requirements for that time period to give birth to a US citizen outside the US. It's complicated to say the least. |
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Something tells me the same people insisting the Hawaii Birth Certificate be literally called a "Birth Certificate" and that the original one on file with the government is all that is acceptable will suddenly change their standards when it comes to documents from a third world African country, where such documents are likely readily available for the right price.
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Its probably fake, but like everybody else, I'd just like this issue cleared up once and for all. The constant obfuscation by the administration is what piqued my interest in the issue. I dismissed it, at first. He's acting like he has something to hide. Which is odd, considering his claims to openness and clarity. |
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I'll take "It's a hoax" for $500 Alex. World net Daily? Are they reputable? They have a birth certif at least. I see what you did there. |
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Something tells me the same people insisting the Hawaii Birth Certificate be literally called a "Birth Certificate" and that the original one on file with the government is all that is acceptable will suddenly change their standards when it comes to documents from a third world African country, where such documents are likely readily available for the right price. They're available from the State of Hawai'i simply by standing in front of an official and saying "I was born here." |
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Well Dave_A told me this one is fake.......
I believe Dave_A................ the STATE* of Hawaii is more credible than Kenya......... STATE* of HAwaii has nothing to gain by lying...... Kenya has everything to gain by lying......... And yes.............. In real life i talk in halting sentences like i've been blasted with Martian Radiation............. * ALL HAIL THE STATE. (what state? any state!) |
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Something tells me the same people insisting the Hawaii Birth Certificate be literally called a "Birth Certificate" and that the original one on file with the government is all that is acceptable will suddenly change their standards when it comes to documents from a third world African country, where such documents are likely readily available for the right price. They're available from the State of Hawai'i simply by standing in front of an official and saying "I was born here." Whereas In Kenya, the government holds much stricter standards, and always has? |
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Kenya wasn't the Republic of Kenya until 1964... That document cites 1961. Oops. it is supposedly a duplicate copy. requested by someone in 1964. it then goes into archives with the original. i had to get one for my honeymoon as i needed it to travel and did not want to risk losing the original. had the birth date on it but also had the issue year as 04. |
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Hey Dan, Dan Rather, is this real? Perhaps it is a forgery , but with factual information. What do you say Dan? |
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This Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro was quite a character. If she was was an anthropologist, are there any of her published writings about something like basket weaving in the Molluccas?
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I reserved judgment in the other thread, but after seeing a close up it is no doubt a Photo shop.
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IOO.... Can we PLEASE let this die? It's just making us look pathetic.
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