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Link Posted: 1/20/2002 8:48:34 PM EDT
[#1]
1) SKS with Rambo wanna-be BS added.  Especially the crappy pistol grip or folding stock.  

2) super $$$$$ 1911 race guns.  I can appreciate the skill involved but still I'd rather have a parkerized plain jane "real world" .45

3) plastic stocked, scope sighted inline muzzle loaders.  New made "tradional" ML are ok.

4)Hi-cap double action 9mm/40s&W autos.  Nothing bad about them but don't really do much for me.  

5) Desert Eagles  Can't really see the point of a 4+lb "pistol" with a grip as big as a 2x4.

6)  Colt SAA  personal taste, I like the Bisley/Remington 1875/cap & ball Colt/S&W top breaks better.  The SAA is the small block Chevy of "cowboy" guns.

7) plastic framed pistols & rifles.  The only plastic framed gun I really like is the Nylon66.



Link Posted: 1/20/2002 9:02:14 PM EDT
[#2]
1911's.
Winchester Model 70's.
S&W's.

[;D]
Link Posted: 1/20/2002 9:27:39 PM EDT
[#3]
Dislikes:

Compensators, dot sights, 20 round mags and other such utter crap mounted on a beloved 1911 frame.  

Ruger and S&W autoloading pistols.

The .22 short.  What's the point?  My slingshot delivers more energy.

Tec-9 and the idiot at the range that holds it by the pistol grip and the bottom of the magazine.

Kimber 1911's, because their owners seem to always feel obligated to let you know it is a Kimber, even when you don't ask.

Glocks other than the 10mm.  Sorry guys, that dreaded plastic frame lives longer than steel with the 10mm.

Laser sights.  Might as well have a neon sign over your head.

Rifled shotguns.  If you are shooting far enough to need a rifled barrel for accuracy, use a rifle.

BOSS or other such crap designed to make a crappy barrel shoot a little better all while peeling paint off shooting benches.  Muzzle breaks on sub-.40 calibers fall into this as well.
Link Posted: 1/20/2002 9:43:22 PM EDT
[#4]
what a shock to see my name above the word member, now this is really a bust.   my name is bob cole also!!!whats the odds of that!
Link Posted: 1/20/2002 9:46:33 PM EDT
[#5]

i second the lasers.
flashlights look stupid too, it's not a swiss army knife it's a rifle.  i know some people like em, that's their deal, just my opinion.  maybe i'll think differently some day.
Link Posted: 1/20/2002 9:47:27 PM EDT
[#6]
A lot of people on this thread are busting S&W and Ruger pistols. I find this very surprising.
Link Posted: 1/20/2002 9:48:10 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Dislikes:



The .22 short.  What's the point?  My slingshot delivers more energy.
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in iowa i can't have a silencer, the stevens single i found on a gravle road and CB shorts is about as loud as a bb gun. neiborhood strays beware


Rifled shotguns.  If you are shooting far enough to need a rifled barrel for accuracy, use a rifle.
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man, the only point of a rifled shotgun is for hunting in states that dont allow rifles. hmm, let me think, yep, dammit, IOWA AGAIN. only shotguns are legal for deer, im sure many hunters would like to opt for a rifle, but the DNR frowns on that.



editied, cause "can" instead of "can't" really makes shit not make sense.
Link Posted: 1/20/2002 9:53:02 PM EDT
[#8]
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A lot of people on this thread are busting S&W and Ruger pistols. I find this very surprising.
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politics man. bill ruger took our hi cap mags, and dont even start the SW thing. and personally, i think ruger centerfire pistols look like steel bricks. also i hate ruger bolt guns, i had one, only gun i had and didnt like ever. its sad, 2 of the greatest non military modern firearms (10/22 and mkll) come from a company that tried, and did fuck us over.

ruger sinks my boat.  
Link Posted: 1/20/2002 10:00:19 PM EDT
[#9]
TC Contender.
Link Posted: 1/20/2002 10:28:29 PM EDT
[#10]
Hmmm...
Personal "gun ban list" Guns to ugly or to poor to have in my collection.

Food stamp specials...
Lorcins, Jennings, Davis...

Ruger(except .22) and S&W semi auto handguns

The New springfield armory handgun (not the 1911's).

Any other polymer framed handgun other than a Glock (why not buy a Glock ?)

Anything with a thumbhole stock

Tec 9's... Worthless

Mini UZI (doofy looking)

Anthing made by Century Arms (cobbled together POS)

AR Pistols (especially the Olympic arms one full of holes)

Most engraved guns (especially engraved winchester 94's) I think too much engraving should lessen the value.

Any gun too valauble to shoot.

Any non firing replica.

Airsoft guns.

Thousand dollar guns with $100 scopes

Remmington Semi auto 30.06, especially with $40 walmart special scope.


Most mossberg shotguns, except the 590A1 military model.

Anything chinese with the exception of the polly tech AK and the SKS.


Any inline black powder gun.
Any traditonal looking blackpowder gun with a synthetic stock.
(If your gonna be Daniel Boon, at least have the courtesy to have a traditional looking gun.
Blackpowder is cool because of the smoke 8^))

I loove my UZI, especially with an Israeli issue wooden stock, it makes a great 9mm carbine for indoor ranges. Besides the mags are easy to find and cheap, and the gun is almost indestructable. I do however hate the post ban UZI's glued with a thumbhole stock. They look goofy.


Link Posted: 1/20/2002 10:41:14 PM EDT
[#11]
1)Anything by Lorcin, Jennings, Hi-point[left]2)Ruger mini-14, for obvious reasons[/left][left]3)pistols with no external hammer or safety[/left][left]4)anything (especially a long gun) with a laser "sight"[/left][left]5)The Desert Eagle-dumbest idea for a handgun I have ever seen[/left][left]6)in-line ignition black pwder rifles-uh....why?[/left][left]7)ARs with 10lbs worth of "cool" add-ons[/left][left]8)Single-action Revolvers-they just don't do anything for me, is all[/left][left]9)firearms that never get fired-what's the point in having one if you don't use it? Ya want a paper weight, get a paperweight.[/left][left]10)Anything made by any company that feels they need to charge you extra (SA, and H&K come to mind) just for the privilage of owning their product[/left][left] This is all I can think of at the moment[/left]
Link Posted: 1/20/2002 11:08:25 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:

It's not a bad plinker with the right mags.  I like mine.  I know I am a minority amongst the ranks of AR15 dot commers.

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Try this for in the minority,I think the Mini 14 could be be better that the AR-15
With some good R&D put in to it and you could have the best small arm ever.
It would have all the good things from the the M1(can't brake it) and all the good things about a AR(.223,highcaps,small)

Now I know,here come the replies"my Mini-14 shoots a 10 foot group at 8",bla bla bla........but thats just due to the M1 carbine gas sys.

All in all my Bushmaster shoot 1 3/4" at 100 yards and my mini 14 now("now" after bull barrle,sights and a new gas block)shoots 2" at 100 yards and 3 5/8" at 200 yards
If you can't live with that then you need to pull the cob out.

BTW:You know that thing about the "good" mags? you got there.
No good mag,no good shoot[:(]
Link Posted: 1/21/2002 1:37:15 AM EDT
[#13]
Hello Bomoholzer, I was wondering if you could explain why you don't like SIG bolt actions.  I am not disagreeing at all, I would just like to hear your reasons.

My friend has been thinking about an LSR2 or SSG 3000, and if there are reasons why this is bad, I would like to know so I can tell him.  Thanks.
Link Posted: 1/21/2002 5:24:26 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
anything in 25 acp.
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There's a pawnshop ower in Clearwater FL who'd disagree with you.  He was attacked by a guy with a sword (no kidding).  The initial attack surprised him and forced him away from his desk where he had set his Glock.  After being pursued through his store back into the office, and being unable to reach any other "ready" weapons, the attacker ran him through with the sword.  THEN he remembered his Colt .25 auto in a pants pocket.  Five rounds into the perp's head at point-blank range.  

The .25 ain't much - but if it's what you have, it beats having nothing.  
Link Posted: 1/21/2002 6:17:23 AM EDT
[#15]
Firearms that don't interest me:

Walther PPK

Large-framed revolvers with snubby barrels

Modern replicas of pre-WWII firearms

Compact pistols with steel frames

.22 Magnum handguns

Anything with a dummy suppressor that's almost as long as the barrel

Old military rifles with tiny open sights

Colt revolvers

Hunting firearms with glossy finishes
Link Posted: 1/21/2002 6:29:08 AM EDT
[#16]
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37mm launchers for the AR...What's the point?
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Do you reload? Have you ever seen the 1" flechettes that are sold by the pound?  [}:D]
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Ponyboy, we really gots to hang out!!![devil]
Link Posted: 1/21/2002 7:17:21 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
A lot of people on this thread are busting S&W and Ruger pistols. I find this very surprising.
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politics man. bill ruger took our hi cap mags, and dont even start the SW thing. and personally, i think ruger centerfire pistols look like steel bricks. also i hate ruger bolt guns, i had one, only gun i had and didnt like ever. its sad, 2 of the greatest non military modern firearms (10/22 and mkll) come from a company that tried, and did fuck us over.

ruger sinks my boat.  
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How did bill ruger take our hicap mags ? I read something about this before but it didn't really explain what he did.
Link Posted: 1/21/2002 7:22:55 PM EDT
[#18]
Link Posted: 1/21/2002 7:32:33 PM EDT
[#19]
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Just a word about Glocks. If you've ever had to slap your gun out of its holster with your heart/adrenaline/tunnel vision going and track naturaly on the guys mask and later realize you weren't wondering whether it would work for you, you'd be glad you owned a Glock too. I'm also glad the racoon decided to run the other way because I just knocked it 15 feet out of a tree and it wasn't happy.
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... Oh man, the shits gettin deep[:D]. My Para-Ord P14-45 has NEVER JAMMED.
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Hmmm... Seems glocks are thought out of the ordinary when they jam, and 1911's when they don't.

Okay, how's that for talkin' smack????[;D]
Link Posted: 1/21/2002 8:35:18 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
A lot of people on this thread are busting S&W and Ruger pistols. I find this very surprising.
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politics man. bill ruger took our hi cap mags, and dont even start the SW thing. and personally, i think ruger centerfire pistols look like steel bricks. also i hate ruger bolt guns, i had one, only gun i had and didnt like ever. its sad, 2 of the greatest non military modern firearms (10/22 and mkll) come from a company that tried, and did fuck us over.

ruger sinks my boat.  
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How did bill ruger take our hicap mags ? I read something about this before but it didn't really explain what he did.
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The 10rd mag limitation for semi-auto's was Bill Ruger's contribution to the '94 Crime Bill.
Link Posted: 1/21/2002 8:50:52 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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Just a word about Glocks. If you've ever had to slap your gun out of its holster with your heart/adrenaline/tunnel vision going and track naturaly on the guys mask and later realize you weren't wondering whether it would work for you, you'd be glad you owned a Glock too. I'm also glad the racoon decided to run the other way because I just knocked it 15 feet out of a tree and it wasn't happy.
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... Oh man, the shits gettin deep[:D]. My Para-Ord P14-45 has NEVER JAMMED.
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Hmmm... Seems glocks are thought out of the ordinary when they jam, and 1911's when they don't.

Okay, how's that for talkin' smack????[;D]
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Thats ok but try this one.......



Only a real butt head would buy a Glock over a 1911,then again only a real butt head would "jam" a 1911 in thew first place.

BTW:I had a Glock,it craked.
A gunsmith can't tune up a craked gun to keep it from craking again but you stop a 1911 from "jamming"
Link Posted: 1/21/2002 9:40:03 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:

The 10rd mag limitation for semi-auto's was Bill Ruger's contribution to the '94 Crime Bill.
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So Bill Ruger suggested the idea of a 10 round limit ? This sounds like bs to me. I mean did he publically announce "yes everyone lets limit magazines to 10 rounds." Even if he did say it, don't you think that the politicians were already thinking of a 10 round limit ?
Link Posted: 1/21/2002 10:15:46 PM EDT
[#23]
So I'm a butthead. Whats new? [:)] A 1911 will be somewhere in the next 10 guns I buy, but so will another Glock or two. Gotta get a 10. I seem to be developing a taste for millimeters.

And to add insult to I told you so-
[url]http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=87411[/url]
Link Posted: 1/21/2002 11:27:14 PM EDT
[#24]
AR pistols & the Para LDA.
Link Posted: 1/22/2002 1:34:53 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Just a word about Glocks. If you've ever had to slap your gun out of its holster with your heart/adrenaline/tunnel vision going and track naturaly on the guys mask and later realize you weren't wondering whether it would work for you, you'd be glad you owned a Glock too. I'm also glad the racoon decided to run the other way because I just knocked it 15 feet out of a tree and it wasn't happy.
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Yeah, bit if I were out target practicing with reloads, I'd be worrying about the thing blowing up in my face. Make mine a SIG.
Link Posted: 1/22/2002 3:51:48 AM EDT
[#26]
AR-15
M-16
AR-10
AR-180
.
.
.


Oh, sorry wrong board.....
Link Posted: 1/22/2002 6:04:10 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
anything in 25 acp.
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There's a pawnshop ower in Clearwater FL who'd disagree with you.  He was attacked by a guy with a sword (no kidding).  The initial attack surprised him and forced him away from his desk where he had set his Glock.  After being pursued through his store back into the office, and being unable to reach any other "ready" weapons, the attacker ran him through with the sword.  THEN he remembered his Colt .25 auto in a pants pocket.  Five rounds into the perp's head at point-blank range.  

The .25 ain't much - but if it's what you have, it beats having nothing.  
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Damn, thats pretty hardcore.

I on the other hand think about my guns way too much to ever forget where they are. [:D]
Link Posted: 1/22/2002 6:40:11 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:

Damn, thats pretty hardcore.

I on the other hand think about my guns way too much to ever forget where they are. [:D]
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I would bet nobody's ever chased you with a 36" pig-sticker intent on making you shish-kebab either.  That kinda occupies your complete attention, I'd imagine.  And I was a little wrong, it's Crystal River, not Clearwater FL.  He related the story to rec.guns after he got out of the hospital.  We (the posters there) were pretty worried about him.
Link Posted: 1/22/2002 10:23:30 AM EDT
[#29]
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Damn, thats pretty hardcore.

I on the other hand think about my guns way too much to ever forget where they are. [:D]
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I would bet nobody's ever chased you with a 36" pig-sticker intent on making you shish-kebab either.  That kinda occupies your complete attention, I'd imagine.  And I was a little wrong, it's Crystal River, not Clearwater FL.  He related the story to rec.guns after he got out of the hospital.  We (the posters there) were pretty worried about him.
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Nope they haven't, thank God.  I was making that statement purely tongue-in-cheek.

Did the man recover?

PS - I hope to keep reading you over at DU!  Keep up the good work!
Link Posted: 1/22/2002 10:29:10 AM EDT
[#30]
Any new gun with a new name that tried to be like something it isn't.

And -- any new gun with an unfamiliar name trying to take over where it has no business.
Link Posted: 1/22/2002 12:10:49 PM EDT
[#31]
1. Virtually anything Ruger. Especially the Mini-14.
2. The new HK semi-autos that look like a cross b/t space guns and olympic rifles (can't think of what they're called).
3. Glocks.
4. Short-barrelled M1As with comps on them. Boy, do they look like sh!t on a stick. What a disgrace to the lineage.
5. Uzis.



Having made this list, please enjoy what-ever-the-heck-you-want-to. Firearms are perrty cool.
Link Posted: 1/22/2002 12:21:25 PM EDT
[#32]
.25 automatics, like hardcore pornography, are simply things that a gentleman avoids.  
Link Posted: 1/22/2002 12:30:32 PM EDT
[#33]
1) TC's.  I can see the appeal but the barrels are God-awful expensive.

2) Shotguns.  I just don't like 'em.  Too much recoil.

3) The hyper-expensive decorative guns others have mentioned.  Only Bill Gates would take these out into the field.

4) S&W Sigmas.  Nasty, nasty guns.  I like most of the other S&W centerfire autos but the Sigma is an abomination.

5) Muzzle-loaders that look like modern guns.  Talk about two bad things that go worse together: plastic stocks and Pyrodex.

6) Taurus anything.  Ugly as sin and IMO undependable.  Wouldn't mind having one of their pump .22 rifles though.
Link Posted: 1/23/2002 6:55:02 AM EDT
[#34]
I have a VERY old 1911 with the orig. 7 rd. stacked magazine and the grip feels way too thin to me.  I don't like the single stack 1911.  On the other hand, I have a ParaOrd 14.45 LDA that I put Hogues on and love it.

I also agree about any gun that's too expensive to shoot.  It's like buying an exotic car and never driving it.  It's just wrong.
Link Posted: 1/23/2002 5:04:20 PM EDT
[#35]
Hmmm why is everyone so down on in-line smoke poles? Do some research. First "inlines" were developed in the late 16th century by the french. Way I look at it is, if it loads by the front, uses black powder, then its "primitive".
JMFO anyway. I dont dislike any thing that shoots. Smoke noise and confusion = FUN [peep]
Link Posted: 1/23/2002 5:22:27 PM EDT
[#36]
Lordtrader=Imbroglio

Do I win?  What's the prize?  This isn't a real discussion, so I must be the winner!

Uh, I'll take the "quick pick":
cheap = sh#t
cheap = sh*t
cheap = Lorc*n
cheap = Hi Po**nt

Did I win! [:K]
Link Posted: 1/24/2002 7:45:52 AM EDT
[#37]
Desert Eagles
DAO pistols
Lasers
.30-06(too many people have them and act like they are bad asses)
.30-30(I hate meeting a fellow hunter in the woods and they will always say "all you really need is a 30-30")
commpensated guns, if you can't handle the recoil you shouldn't shoot it.  Plus when you do the blast will scare you shitless


I really don't understand why some here knock on modern muzzleloaders. Mine kicks ass and lets me put an additional deer in the freezer.

As for rifled slug guns, some places will only let you hunt with one.

Also scopes are cool on shotguns too, esp. during turkey season.
Link Posted: 1/24/2002 9:20:50 AM EDT
[#38]
VTHOKIESHOOTER,

I am with you on all that.

You know what really gripes me....

the new Winchester 94's with that stupid lookin safety button on the side! I not a big fan of the 30-30 either but the ole 94 and westerns are a boyhood memory for me and it looks stupid! Chuck Conners did not have a stupid safety button on his.

Any gun that has a built in lock with a key.
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