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Posted: 4/26/2009 5:29:29 AM EDT

... and this time Beretta, imho opinion, kicked asses!

ARX160

The rifle has been started to be issued to our Army for final refinement field testing and actually is also "working" in Afghanistan. There are a lot of new features, included the chance to change the barrel in SECONDS and ON FIELD and to change instantly the ejection direction...

I wrote a long article for a national distributed gun magazine in Italy, so I am in the deep inside the subject.

Ask whatever you want.

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:33:25 AM EDT

[#1]

Quoted:

... and this time Beretta, imho opinion, kicked asses!

ARX160

The rifle has been started to be issued to our Army for final refinement field testing and actually is also "working" in Afghanistan. There are a lot of new features, included the chance to change the barrel in SECONDS and ON FIELD and to change instantly the ejection direction...

I wrote a long article for a national distributed gun magazine in Italy, so I am in the deep inside the subject.

Ask whatever you want.

Are you Sicilian?
j/k

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:34:55 AM EDT

[#2]

looks like a Masada and a Beretta Storm mated...

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:35:10 AM EDT

[#3]

How much did Beretta pay HK?

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:36:02 AM EDT

[#4]

I like it.

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:36:51 AM EDT

[#5]

It looks like the stock folds, does it Extend?

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:37:18 AM EDT

[#6]

Spiral Interoperability...

I want one!

Grazie, Beretta!

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:37:42 AM EDT

[#7]

The barrel seems rather thin. Is that an illusion?

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:38:44 AM EDT

[#8]

Kinda neat looking rifle

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:38:45 AM EDT

[#9]

The buttstock looks the same, I know. Was tested also by US personnel, and the comments were unanimously good...

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:39:58 AM EDT

[#10]

It kinda looks fat to me. Atleast at the hand guard. Not knocking it, looks pretty cool otherwise.

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:45:22 AM EDT

[#11]

Double action trigger? That sounds simply horrible on a rifle. Is the trigger as bad as it sounds?

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:47:57 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Double action trigger? That sounds simply horrible on a rifle. Is the trigger as bad as it sounds?

I think the double-action trigger is for the grenade launcher only. Note the distance between the rear of the trigger and where the pistol grip begins. On a double-action gun, there is a larger gap there than on a single-action.

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:48:10 AM EDT

[#13]

How many thrust per squeeze does it get?

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:48:28 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Double action trigger? That sounds simply horrible on a rifle. Is the trigger as bad as it sounds?

I think thats the grenade launcher

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:49:40 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:

I like it.

It folds, in a way very close to the one of the SIG rifles, and it extend: buttstock is collapsible, 4 positions...

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:51:12 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
It looks like the stock folds, does it Extend?

t folds, in a way very close to the one of the SIG rifles, and it extend: buttstock is collapsible, 4 positions...

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:52:49 AM EDT

[#17]

Had some time with my first SCAR yesterday...

These new rifles are makin me feel old...I mean an SBR AR is just old school, now.

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:52:55 AM EDT

[#18]

So the Masada did come out...

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:54:35 AM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
The barrel seems rather thin. Is that an illusion?

Barrel on the real thing is thicker than appears on the pics. Little bit more than the classical M16A1 pencil barrel...

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:57:15 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
Double action trigger? That sounds simply horrible on a rifle. Is the trigger as bad as it sounds?

The rifle is single action selective fire (we dropped the three round burst: safe, semiauto, full auto...). The grenade launcher is DAO...

Posted: 4/26/2009 5:59:01 AM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
So the Masada did come out...

completely DIFFERENT gas system from Masada.

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:01:46 AM EDT

[#22]

Did it pass teh drop and harsh stacking test?

j/k Looks like a cool rifle. The most important question is when is the civilian version going to be for sale in the US?

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:03:18 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Double action trigger? That sounds simply horrible on a rifle. Is the trigger as bad as it sounds?

The rifle is single action selective fire (we dropped the three round burst: safe, semiauto, full auto...). The grenade launcher is DAO...

OK, that makes sense. How long until a range report?

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:03:59 AM EDT

[#24]

Whats the height over the bore of the iron sights and the optic rail?

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:05:08 AM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Double action trigger? That sounds simply horrible on a rifle. Is the trigger as bad as it sounds?

The rifle is single action selective fire (we dropped the three round burst: safe, semiauto, full auto...). The grenade launcher is DAO...

OK, that makes sense. How long until a range report?

I am scheduled to test it, including the grenade launcher... very soon. I'll keep you updated.

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:06:34 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Double action trigger? That sounds simply horrible on a rifle. Is the trigger as bad as it sounds?

The rifle is single action selective fire (we dropped the three round burst: safe, semiauto, full auto...). The grenade launcher is DAO...

OK, that makes sense. How long until a range report?

I am scheduled to test it, including the grenade launcher... very soon. I'll keep you updated.

We want pics.....no, we WANT VIDEO!!

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:09:42 AM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
Whats the height over the bore of the iron sights and the optic rail?

good question. AFAI the design keeps the sights very low on the receiver, EI uses a special version of Aimpoint M2 called "acies" that has lower mount.

Next time I will handle the rifle I'll measure it...

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:14:28 AM EDT

[#28]

Very interesting design. It definitely reminds me of the XM8 project in some ways.

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:14:29 AM EDT

[#29]

Awesome rifle!

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:15:51 AM EDT

[#30]

I would take one................if Beretta would import

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:17:51 AM EDT

[#31]

Tell us more about the optics.

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:20:57 AM EDT

[#32]

Where can I get 10 stripped lowers?

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:21:22 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
Tell us about the optic.

Which one? The rifle is the platform for the "Future Soldier" implementation.

But will be delivered with Aimpoint M2 Acies, a version of your M2/M68 sight to be adapted for Beretta 70/90. I saw also a display with ARX160 and Burris XTR135... I don't know if this will be issued.

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:22:51 AM EDT

[#34]

I'll take 3, address to follow.

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:24:03 AM EDT

[#35]

Looks like a Storm/SCAR and SIG 556 all had sex together.

i'll buy one

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:24:30 AM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:
I would take one................if Beretta would import

Never say never... but for the .mil people.

I already asked for a semiauto version, but at the moment is not in any plan.

The gun can easily shot other calibers, including 7,62 soviet, 6.8 grendel. Just change barrel, lower (because of the magwell), bolt.

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:24:51 AM EDT

[#37]

Too Scaresque for my liking!

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:25:15 AM EDT

[#38]

I need a few hundred for extended abuse, err... testing, that is.

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:26:04 AM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:
Looks like a Storm/SCAR and SIG 556 all had sex together.

i'll buy one

LOL!!!

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:27:29 AM EDT

[#40]

Pretty cool. I like it.

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:29:07 AM EDT

[#41]

looks like if you dropped it in the mud you would have to take it to the car wash to get the dirt out of that Kawasaki fender well on the front..

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:29:51 AM EDT

[#42]

Piston driven and folding stock....
Mikhail had that figured out long ago.

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:42:26 AM EDT

[#43]

The magazine well looks kind of deep. Can this rifle use 20 round magazines ? What about polymer magazines, like Magpul PMAGS and the like ?

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:44:04 AM EDT

[#44]

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:50:51 AM EDT

[#45]

Nice.

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:56:31 AM EDT

[#46]

Very nice.

Not to change the subject, but what are the gun laws like in Italy? Is it difficult to own an AR?

Just curious, I'm not moving there.

Yet.

Posted: 4/26/2009 6:58:08 AM EDT

[#47]

The receiver on that sucker is HUGE!!!! What's up with that!?

Posted: 4/26/2009 7:00:50 AM EDT

[#48]

Is this the mythical Beretta RX ?

Are we going to see this stateside with the other X's

is it still going to be in multiple calibers like the other X models?

Posted: 4/26/2009 7:02:49 AM EDT

[#49]

Some guy on facebook has been recommending this for the US military's new assault rifle. I always said, nah, they'll never pick it up.

Surprised the Italian army went with it.