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Posted: 7/18/2008 11:13:14 AM EDT






The Camaro will come in LS, LT and full-on SS specs and be available with 6-speed manual and auto transmissions. Under the bonnet sit fuel-efficient 296bhp 3.6-liter V6 and 416bhp 6.2-liter V8 engines, which can run on fewer cylinders to improve economy.

It shouldn't just be a burnout king either, handling should be pretty good thanks to an all-independent suspension setup and a StabiliTrak stability control system. 4-pot Brembo brakes front and rear shed the speed on the SS. Weight balance is split 52/48 front/rear too, but the Camaro is a porker, weighing in at more than 1,700kgs.

The interior gets cool LED lighting, leather seats on posher models and dials and gauges inspired by 1969 Camaros. The US gets the car in early 2009, while we'll get it some time after that. Super.



jalopnik.com/398828/production-2010-chevy-camaro-revealed
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:14:29 AM EDT
[#1]
Will GM be around long enough to produce it?

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:14:55 AM EDT
[#2]
rental fleets will love 'em
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:15:07 AM EDT
[#3]
I might be willing to trade my Trans am for that...maybe.

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:15:29 AM EDT
[#4]
Will it availble at around $20-25K?  Or will they take Driges line of thinking and charge $60K.

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:16:59 AM EDT
[#5]
From the Dead Milkmen album Big Lizard In My Backyard


Bitchin' Camaro, Bitchin' Camaro!
I ran over my neighbors
Bitchin' Camaro, Bitchin' Camaro!
Now I'm in all the papers

My folks bought me a bitchin' Camaro
With no insurance to match
So if I happen to run you down
Please don't leave a scratch

I ran over some old lady
One night at the county fair
And I didn't get arrested
Because my dad's the mayor

Bitchin' Camaro, Bitchin' Camaro!
Donuts on your lawn
Bitchin' Camaro, Bitchin' Camaro!
Tony Orlando and Dawn

When I drive past the kids
They all spit and cuss
Cause I've got a bitchin' Camaro
And they have to ride the bus

So you'd better get out of my way
When I come through your yard
Cause I've got a bitchin' Camaro
And an Exxon credit card

Bitchin' Camaro, Bitchin' Camaro!
Hey man where ya headed?
Bitchin' Camaro, Bitchin' Camaro!
I'm drunk on unleaded!
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:17:51 AM EDT
[#6]
too little, too late.  Thanks anyway, GM.

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:18:00 AM EDT
[#7]
Looks cool. I'm not real crazy about the ass end, but I still like it over all.

I don't care what the rest of you say, I'm LOVING that a guy can buy a Mustang, Challenger and (soon) Camaro.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:18:02 AM EDT
[#8]
Wow, a nearly 300 horse V6?

That's almost worth it.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:18:12 AM EDT
[#9]
What's not to like about that?  They didn't build 'em like that in the sixties.  416 HP is serious.

Too bad the gasoline engine is going the way of the horse and buggy.  Poor GM is still a day late and a few billion dollars short.  

J.

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:18:19 AM EDT
[#10]
The interior is ugly.   I'm a big fan of the "Camaro", but the interior looks dated, boring, and uninspiring.    Typical GM.   They need to hire some new designers.  

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:19:09 AM EDT
[#11]
Disgusting

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:19:10 AM EDT
[#12]
Will this one turn into a robot as well?
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:19:24 AM EDT
[#13]
The independent rear suspension is nice.

I like the interior, better than the Challenger anyway.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:19:40 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Wow, a nearly 300 horse V6?

That's almost worth it.


Not too shabby at all.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:20:56 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
From the Dead Milkmen album Big Lizard In My Backyard


Exactly what I thought when I saw this...

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:21:19 AM EDT
[#16]

The front looks more like a Monte Carlo SS

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:22:09 AM EDT
[#17]
Meh....
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:22:13 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
The interior is ugly.   I'm a big fan of the "Camaro", but the interior looks dated, boring, and uninspiring.    Typical GM.   They need to hire some new designers.  


It's a muscle car. It's supposed to have a simple interior. Put the money in the motor. I like it.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:22:26 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
too little, too late.  Thanks anyway, GM.


Right?!?... one word describes this abomination... Ugly...  could they have made it look any more like a mustang and gto had a hybrid bastard child?


Now if these dumbfucks really wanted to make money... they would pull out the old forms from mothballs for the gen one body styles, change the headlights to rectangular and add all of the modern technology...  independent suspension, 6 speed gearboxes.. etc, etc... all in what looks like a first gen Camaro...

THAT SHIT WOULD SELL!
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:22:50 AM EDT
[#20]
Doesn't look as good as the concept... but then again, they never do.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:24:07 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
The independent rear suspension is nice.

I like the interior, better than the Challenger anyway.


Hopefully the rear holds up when people throw 10" slicks on the back and drag it.

Mustang enthusiasts begged Ford for a live axle on the Mustang, and for once they listened.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:25:09 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Doesn't look as good as the concept... but then again, they never do.


Im probably in the minority here but i think this looks better than the concept.

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:25:13 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Doesn't look as good as the concept... but then again, they never do.


Its actually not that far off from the concept.....
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:26:39 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The independent rear suspension is nice.

I like the interior, better than the Challenger anyway.


Hopefully the rear holds up when people throw 10" slicks on the back and drag it.

Mustang enthusiasts begged Ford for a live axle on the Mustang, and for once they listened.


That's true, we'll see...a live axle certainly hasn't hurt GT500 sales to say the least.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:27:41 AM EDT
[#25]
Looks pretty cool.  Too bad I'm not on welfare and can't afford to feed it.  

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:27:55 AM EDT
[#26]
I really don't like the retro design, they should have gone more modern.

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:28:31 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The interior is ugly.   I'm a big fan of the "Camaro", but the interior looks dated, boring, and uninspiring.    Typical GM.   They need to hire some new designers.  


It's a muscle car. It's supposed to have a simple interior. Put the money in the motor. I like it.



I don't mind simple, but putting dash gauges down where the ashtray used to be is a bit silly.

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:28:36 AM EDT
[#28]
I like them a lot. What is the price going to be?

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:29:20 AM EDT
[#29]
meh...whatever.

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:30:12 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
meh...whatever.



Yeah, down with the affordable fun cars.....Ferraris, Lambos, and Porsche's that's it.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:30:16 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
The independent rear suspension is nice.

I like the interior, better than the Challenger anyway.


Hopefully the rear holds up when people throw 10" slicks on the back and drag it.

Mustang enthusiasts begged Ford for a live axle on the Mustang, and for once they listened.


That's true, we'll see...a live axle certainly hasn't hurt GT500 sales to say the least.


And the GT500 handles just fine, a point that's often lost on many.

Not all of us jerk off to the thought of running laps around the 'ring, or doing 3x the speed limit on public mountain roads with blind corners, or waiting with bated breath for a track day to open up 3 hours from here, or...
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:32:35 AM EDT
[#32]
1 Challenger please.

ETA:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
The independent rear suspension is nice.

I like the interior, better than the Challenger anyway.


Hopefully the rear holds up when people throw 10" slicks on the back and drag it.

Mustang enthusiasts begged Ford for a live axle on the Mustang, and for once they listened.


That's true, we'll see...a live axle certainly hasn't hurt GT500 sales to say the least.


And the GT500 handles just fine, a point that's often lost on many.

Not all of us jerk off to the thought of running laps around the 'ring, or doing 3x the speed limit on public mountain roads with blind corners, or waiting with bated breath for a track day to open up 3 hours from here, or...


Yep, some of us are quite content going fast in a straight line.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:33:46 AM EDT
[#33]
Like it.  
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:34:38 AM EDT
[#34]
Cmon.. what happened to curves?
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:35:56 AM EDT
[#35]
I'll wait for the firebird version :D

for all the haters: What else are you going to buy?

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:36:15 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
Will GM be around long enough to produce it?


Yep...................but I don't know who will own GM then.




5sub
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:38:21 AM EDT
[#37]
Bitchin. I have had several. I could see me in one for sure......and then in big ass trouble.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:38:30 AM EDT
[#38]
Not entirely sure how accurate that really is.  The LT designation just doesn't fit.  Leading members of the Camaro development and marketing team (Scott Settlemire in particular) have said publically that "Camaro and Z-28 are not dead" in response to some rumors it had been killed.  Z-28 is just too recognizable a monicker to kill...

The weight is probably a bit low as well.  Again people on the development team have mentioned a lot closer to 4k lbs when all the required safety equipment is included.

The engine specifications are proabably pretty close though...

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:38:37 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
Yeah, down with the affordable fun cars.....Ferraris, Lambos, and Porsche's that's it.


Hand stitched leather, aaaaaaw yeah baby. Tell me more about the steering feed back. Ya, that's it. What's that? The panel gap is tight? Almost there baby! Oh yeah! Oh yeah! The slalom speed is...oh my gawd...


AWESOME!!! OH, YEAH!!! AAAAAAH! OH SHIT! OH FUCK ME. SLAP THAT ASS!! HARDER! SAY BREMBO! SAY BREMBO! AAAAAAHHHHH! YES! YES! YES!


Shit, now the pages of Car & Driver are stuck together.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:38:57 AM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
The interior is ugly.   I'm a big fan of the "Camaro", but the interior looks dated, boring, and uninspiring.    Typical GM.   They need to hire some new designers.  


It's a muscle car. It's supposed to have a simple interior. Put the money in the motor. I like it.



I don't mind simple, but putting dash gauges down where the ashtray used to be is a bit silly.


68-69 gauges:
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:40:18 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
The independent rear suspension is nice.

I like the interior, better than the Challenger anyway.


Hopefully the rear holds up when people throw 10" slicks on the back and drag it.

Mustang enthusiasts begged Ford for a live axle on the Mustang, and for once they listened.


That's true, we'll see...a live axle certainly hasn't hurt GT500 sales to say the least.


And the GT500 handles just fine, a point that's often lost on many.

Not all of us jerk off to the thought of running laps around the 'ring, or doing 3x the speed limit on public mountain roads with blind corners, or waiting with bated breath for a track day to open up 3 hours from here, or...


Look how many '99,'01 and '03/04 Cobras got swapped over to a 8.8.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:42:45 AM EDT
[#42]
LOVE IT!!
Plan on spending $31K+ for the LS2 model.
Curb weight will be around 3600lbs so she will be a fatty...  
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:43:24 AM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
The interior is ugly.   I'm a big fan of the "Camaro", but the interior looks dated, boring, and uninspiring.    Typical GM.   They need to hire some new designers.  


I keep applying but nothing yet





I think they screwed up by not just keeping the line running on the old Camaro.  Camaro/Firebird guys are usually hardcore GM guys, they pushed them into imports by dropping it.  They should have looked at how to make it cheaper, most of the guys that want one aren't rich or they're ripping the interior out to race it anyway.

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:44:27 AM EDT
[#44]
I need
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:46:49 AM EDT
[#45]
I think the bowtie in the front looks a little off.

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:47:25 AM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:
From the Dead Milkmen album Big Lizard In My Backyard


Exactly what I thought when I saw this...



I still have about 4 Dead Milkmen Albums. I thought I was their only fan.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:48:23 AM EDT
[#47]
Junior says it is a Fail .... no 4X4
He's a pickup man

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:49:23 AM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The independent rear suspension is nice.

I like the interior, better than the Challenger anyway.


Hopefully the rear holds up when people throw 10" slicks on the back and drag it.

Mustang enthusiasts begged Ford for a live axle on the Mustang, and for once they listened.


It will be the same rear diff as the corvette and the xlrv/ctsv so it should hold decently. I've seen/worked on some pretty quick vette's with the stock diff and they have held up. But as any rear diff, it can always break.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:50:24 AM EDT
[#49]
I don't like it. I've always been a fan of the way the Mustang looks and runs even though I hate ford cars in general.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 11:50:39 AM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
The interior is ugly.   I'm a big fan of the "Camaro", but the interior looks dated, boring, and uninspiring.    Typical GM.   They need to hire some new designers.  


It's a muscle car. It's supposed to have a simple interior. Put the money in the motor. I like it.



I don't mind simple, but putting dash gauges down where the ashtray used to be is a bit silly.


68-69 gauges:
www.classiccarrestorationparts.com/catalog/3952635_R.jpg


I guess that could explain the placement, but it still not a good location to put them.  I ran out of gas in my Camero twice and that gauge was on the dash.

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