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I KNEW I had seen them before. Thank you.
And please, bro, don't get me wrong. I had to think long and hard about posting what I did. I am a contractor - it is how I make my living. Tire-kickers in the construction industry are a real detriment to my income.
I decided to offer it up as an option (I should NOT have used the word "suggestion") for the poster to leave to his conscience. When it comes right down to it, I'll help any Arfcom member, even if it means giving away a few secrets of the trade we practice.
I hope you are not upset, and I fully concur taking advantage of a free estimate with no intent to hire is a tactic best left to liberals who have no morals. I fucking HATE it when I know people have done that to me, and I don't wish it on anyone else.
But then again, there are days I do nothing with my time and am more than happy to help a homeowner out by informing them the job can be done themselves, rather than paying me for it. Hell, I do it here all the time. In fact, I have a thread going on this very thing, teaching people how to do a simple remodel.
I wasn't trying to hurt our pockets, just helping another member out.
In retrospect, it wasn't the brightest thing I've ever done. But I'll leave it up there so others know who you were addressing.
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No big deal........though I was surprised to here it from somebody I assummed to be a fellow contractor. I'm more than happy to give advice to those that ask. I'm a small contractor in a rural and fairly poor area, so I often work cheaper than I can afford as it is.
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Yeah, same here, except in Phoenix, AZ. These hack assholes out there working for $25 an hour are KILLING me... I just can't compete. And then there are super large guys that just employ hacks. Either way, being both a professional that does the job right, and a professional with pride, seems to be a losing battle if you're like me and just can't bring yourself to either do sloppy work or rip people off.
So I feel no sympathy for the hacks that get bids with no intent to hire or constant callbacks. In Phoenix, there is 1 professional for every 200 hacks, I shit you not my friend. Hell, I pay my helpers more than most people pay their JW's, but that's because I have standards. My employees are an extension of my ethical practices, and finding them is hard enough. Getting quality help to do quality work in this state--where the fucking POS illegals take $4 an hour to dig a ditch--is next to impossible and costs more than I make, myself.
Maybe we should merge and chase the hacks out, and start demanding customers pay for the quality they get? I don't mind making a bad bid and eating my mistake, but I just can't compete with these wanna-be contractors that have fly-by-night operations, make $90k in their first year, and then disappear under another name the next year to avoid their callbacks.
Some people will never know quality and longevity, because all they see is the bottom line bid. Dumbasses.
Oh well... What can a guy do?