Thats so dumb its not even funny.

Let me ask you this: how many people are killed with "Hot Rods" as compared to killings with guns?  And if you even try to ban guns........

All cars with a "sporting use" should be banned.

Quoted: Thats so dumb its not even funny. Let me ask you this: how many people are killed with "Hot Rods" as compared to killings with guns?  And if you even try to ban guns........

I honestly don't know. You have a constitutional right to bear arms, but you DO NOT have any such right to own a Hot Rod. Even if Hot Rod's don't kill as many people as guns, the POTENTIAL is still there. And it's a potential too great to ignore.

I don't see why this is that big of an issue to some people. You don't need a car that lets you drive faster than 75 mph. Hell, that's faster than the speed limit in most states. You have a Constitutional right to bear arms. You don't have a Constitutional right to own a Hot Rod. It's a priviledge, and it should be a rather limited one at that.

Molon Labe

Quoted: photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=45677 Molon Labe

Best reply yet!

This is great. Thanks for the laugh!

If that is a joke, then its damn funny.

If you are being serious, that is the most insane pile of shit I have ever read.  Period.  Do you not see the parallel between between this BS "legislation" and the bitching we do on a dialy basis regarding the right to own firearms -- with no restrictions?  This is the most hypocritical pile of shit I have ever read.  What about all of the talk about 'guns not killing people -- people kill people'.  Can the same not be said for automobiles?  

I agree with the person who said your kids must get their ass kicked in school.

Fokker out.

I don't see why this is that big of an issue to some people. You don't need a car that lets you drive faster than 75 mph. Hell, that's faster than the speed limit in most states. quote]

By that rationale, you dont "need" a firearm either, since a well placed slingshot could kill someone just the same.

Quoted: Moron,       you just classifed my Silverado as a Hotrod!

+1  same as my Sierra.  Well I guess that tonneau cover and my tach add so much HP its unreal

And another thing, someone posted something about having a loved one killed due to "hot rods".  What about 4?  My cousins were in a Grand Am and were hit by a little Escort.  All 4 were killed by a "regular car" that didnt have a tach, spoiler, some dumb shifter, an automatic tranny brake, probly had a 2" exhaust, about a 7" tire, 4 banger, no nitrous tank,.....do I need to go on?

My point is that 4 of my family members are DEAD because they drove some stupid, little, unsafe car and were hit by another stupid, little, unsafe car like you want everyone to drive. Get my point???

A month after this happened, I was driving home in my truck and I was broadsided (drivers door/ front panel) by a Chevy Impala doing about 65-70mph.  We both walked away, no scratches, no broken bones, not anything. (I do have to admit that there would have been injuries if I coulda caught them before they took off )

Quoted: I'M THE ONLY ONE HERE PROFESSIONAL ENOUGH TO HANDLE A HOT ROD!!

no you're not:

Quoted: Do you not see the parallel between between this BS "legislation" and the bitching we do on a dialy basis regarding the right to own firearms -- with no restrictions?

Parallel? Comparison? Nope. Nada. Nothing even close to similar here. Apples and oranges, I tell you. Move along.

Oh my god....are you serious, or is this some kind of stupid joke.  

1.  Anything that goes over 75mph should be considered a "Hot Rod"???  What car/truck won't go 75mph?? ...answer me that question.  I know for a fact that a Geo Metro will!!!  

2.  Any car/truck over 150hp should be considered a "Hot Rod"???   I can only think of a handfull of new cars that have under 150hp....and guess what....they will still go over 75MPH.  

3.  A car/truck with a spoiler will be considered a "Hot Rod".  Why??  

Banning "Hot Rods" is one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard of.  That's like trying to ban baseball....it's just unamerican.  

I guess you've never spent sevearl years building a muscle car from the ground up.....and had the opertunity to turn the key for the very first time...firing up a built 800hp Big Block Chevy....listening to the rump-rump-rump idle through a set of 3" Flowmaster 2-chambered mufflers.  It's almost better than sex

Do that....and then tell me that Hot Rods should be banned.  

I quit counting the violations my baby would have....



But in order to confiscate it, they'd have ta catch it....


Woody

Quoted: Quoted: Thats so dumb its not even funny. Let me ask you this: how many people are killed with "Hot Rods" as compared to killings with guns?  And if you even try to ban guns........ I honestly don't know. You have a constitutional right to bear arms, but you DO NOT have any such right to own a Hot Rod. Even if Hot Rod's don't kill as many people as guns, the POTENTIAL is still there. And it's a potential too great to ignore. I don't see why this is that big of an issue to some people. You don't need a car that lets you drive faster than 75 mph.Hell, that's faster than the speed limit in most states. You have a Constitutional right to bear arms. You don't have a Constitutional right to own a Hot Rod. It's a priviledge, and it should be a rather limited one at that.

We also dont have the right to own a dick and there is still a potential threat that people like you may reproduce. And it's a potential too great to ignore.
Just because it has power doesnt mean it is meant to go fast.  Are you going to try to ban semis as well?????
As a priviledge, unless we abuse it, why should it be taken away?

IT'S A FUCKING PARODY!!!
Jesus, people...

Wow. Every vehicle I own is now illegal thanks to your legislation. And I don't even street race.

Thanks a bunch.

Here is my baby...........yep, close your eyes, it's a "Hot Rod".

Quoted: Wow. Every vehicle I own is now illegal thanks to your legislation. And I don't even street race. Thanks a bunch.

You're welcome!

Hah... this thread is hilarious in so many ways.

Heres my preban BMW, made in West Germany http://pagansmurfen.ath.cx/temp/min_baver.jpg

Quoted: I hope to register a cool sounding domain name, and put together a comprehensive site educating the public on the issue.

How about "Vehicle Control Incorporated”

The real trick would be to get yourself registered as a legitimate non profit corporation. The go on talk shows and argue this with a straight face. No doubt some liberals will agree and send you money. Then the auto companies will donate money just to keep you from targeting their models. It could  turn into a decent living.

OMG!!! ROFL HAHA ON NOES!!!! YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS! MY TRABANT WILL BE ILLEGAL!!


The only thing funnier than your parody, Subnet, are the fuckers taking it seriously.

Quoted: OMG!!! ROFL HAHA ON NOES!!!! YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS! MY TRABANT WILL BE ILLEGAL!! The only thing funnier than your parody, Subnet, are the fuckers taking it seriously.

+1

Quoted: I'M THE ONLY ONE HERE PROFESSIONAL ENOUGH TO HANDLE A HOT ROD!! Military and Law enforcement are the only people who need those evil hot rods! Civilians just don't need them! Ban them! Do it for the Chillen!!

Because it's funny!!!

Because some LEO's think that I'M THE ONLY ONE HERE PROFESSIONAL ENOUGH TO HANDLE A HOT ROD! (performance vehicle) is true!!!

In Mich. Senator Karl Lenin wants to ban 5.7 liter engines because they could penetrate guardrails and be used in a way to endanger people.

C.M.

P.S. My hot rods are "PRE BAN" that means you can't take them and now they'll be worth ten times more then they were. I'll even sell my "Pre ban gas in the tanks of them too.. I'll hoard some old transmissions that are pre ban too. That way I can make them and " fully automatic" if I want.

I did hear talk of all racing fuel being "serialized" and maybe even going out of production. I'll just have to buy bulk gas and sort through it all to find the good gallons....

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Screw that, I have PREBAN Big Block waiting for these fools if they come a knocking!

How many children have died under the wheels of these death wagons?  That is an important fact to have at hand as we march forward with this important legislation.  All you assholes with your 'hot rods' are going to end up getting all our cars taken if we don't curb this now.

Quoted: Screw that, I have PREBAN Big Block waiting for these fools if they come a knocking!

Everyone should go out now and buy as many crate motors as they can before the ban happens.  Its the protion of the vehicle that makes it a hotrod.  I heard the NHTSA will use this part as the preban status for all vehicles.  The chassis will just be comsidered a replaceable part, but there's debate on whether a donor chassis will be allowed to be converted from FWD to RWD.  Also, If you don't have a crate engine sitting arund and the NHTSA finds you in possesion of a rolling chassis with wide tires and another evil HR feature they'll nail you for intent to manufacture.

Values will skyrocket as soon as the HRB becomes law.

Quoted: Everyone should go out now and buy as many crate motors as they can before the ban happens.   Its the protion of the vehicle that makes it a hotrod.  I heard the NHTSA will use this part as the preban status for all vehicles.  The chassis will just be comsidered a replaceable part, but there's debate on whether a donor chassis will be allowed to be converted from FWD to RWD.  Also, If you don't have a crate engine sitting arund and the NHTSA finds you in possesion of a rolling chassis with wide tires and another evil HR feature they'll nail you for intent to manufacture. Values will skyrocket as soon as the HRB becomes law.

Sorry, yo will not be allowed to install a pre-ban motor in any existing car unless you have a valid tax stamp, and a computer chip ignition system that has a 55 mile-per-hour govenor and a remote shut off feature, so law enforcement can disable your "violent killing machine" with the flick of a switch.

This is...nonsense.

In the interest of safety and public health we will become a police state.

OMFG way too funny.  

Maybe we can get imported "parts" kits with cut blocks and we can assemble fully functional Hot Rods until the y ban those too.

"From my cold Lead Foot."

Don't even think about it as it may actually pass.  Way to many idiots in Congress.

Quoted: Molon Labe

saturnstyl, truly a work of art!

Quoted: Quoted: photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=45677 Molon Labe saturnstyl, truly a work of art!

Is that a 1970 Chevelle with a Ramjet 502? Man you must be a terrorist fo sho!

<--- is embarassed by how many GD participants missed this brilliant satire
<--- is also pissed that someone else posted "molon labe" before I got a pic of my Mustang in.



Best thread in a long time--thanks SubnetMask.

Guys, please, the original post was a parody intended to show the idiocy of gun control laws.

Some years back I had posted this in answer to another ARFCOM'er:

Florida76 asked "Im new to AR-15's.... i have a few Hand guns and shotguns... but no AR-15... i hear alot of people are going to buy lots of AR's because the ban is over..."

Answer: We have been able to buy AR-15's all along, but not with the banned features. The rifle is the same, the accessories are different.

Let me put it this way, what if people were all upset about street racing? So, the Coalition to Ban Street Racing Cars looked in Hot Rod Magazine and looked at the pictures. They wrote the Street Safety Bill of 2000 that banned Camaros and Mustangs. Also, any car painted red, or with more than three colors, mag wheels, or hood scoops.

To get the Street Safety Bill of 2000 passed, the politicians and police chiefs warned "No one needs a nitro burning funny car dragster to run to the grocery store."

The new media, when talking about the SSB of 2000, showed a stop light changing from red to green, then cut to scenes of funny cars at the NHRA Championships smoking tires at the starting line, then cut to scenes of cars (actually involved in police chases from a popular TV show) being involved in terrible wrecks.  They edited this so as to make you think it was all one occurance.

Camaros and Mustangs from previous years can still be owned and sold, but prices go up as they are highly desirable cars from when Men were Men and Cars were Cars. NHRA dragsters are completely unaffected by the SSB 2000 because they are never driven on public roads.

So, the car manufacturers made the same cars, but restyled the bodies, same frame and engines, as these were used in their other cars, too. They renamed them the Soccarmom and Executive. You could not buy them in red, or with more than two colors, and no hood scoop or mag wheel option was offered. Mag Wheels and hood scoops sold in auto shops had warning stickers on the boxes that said, "For use only on pre-2000 cars. Use on cars made after September of 2000 is a felony punishable by 10 yrs in Fed prison."

But the Soccermom and the Executive go from 0-60 just as fast as the older Camaro and Mustang. They handle the same, just as cool, just no mags or scoops. Some stupid kid put mag wheels on his Mom's Soccermom and went to prison where he roomed with Bubba.

Florida76 further asked: "my question is whats going to be diffrent on a AR-15 now the ban is over? i know you can use Hi-caps mags but what else?"

Now the car mfgs can change the name back to Camaro and Mustang if they want. They can offer hood scoops and mag wheels. You can put mag wheels and hood scoops on your 2001 Executive. But that poor kid will still be in prison with Bubba. It was a felony when he did it, but is not now. Tough, he was a criminal.

After the SSB of 2000 expired, the politicians, police chiefs, and news media talking heads are once again saying, "When this bill expires, it will once again be possible for 12 year old kids to go to any car dealership, buy one of these terrible machines and once again terrorize the streets with these nitro burning dragsters that are made only for running school buses off the road."

Now, back to the real question, the AWB... AR-15 type rifles may now have threaded barrels that can accept flash suppressors. That metal on the barrel has no effect on the muzzle velocity of the firearm, and will not keep your position hidden at night time. What it will do is lessen the night blinding effect of muzzle flash should you ever have to defend your family at night.

The manufacturers will no longer have to grind the bayonet lug off the front sight base. You see, the AR-15 and the military M16 do share a lot of parts in common, just not the parts that make it fire full auto. No, you cannot convert your AR-15 to full auto by filing the firing pin. All of the parts inside the AR-15 are designed to prevent conversion. You cannot buy the M16 parts needed unless you have a legally possessed full auto M16 (a police department, officer, etc). So, the front sight bases are made with the bayonet lug on there already, for use on the M16. For the last 10 years they had to be ground off for use on "post ban" AR's. Now they don't have to do that extra mfg step. I have never seen anyone put on a bayonet except a display AR-15 at a gun show. Cops don't use them. Bayonets are useless for home defense, and no one bothers. It just pisses me off to be told I can go to prison for having it on my rifle... that little lump of metal.

Oh, stocks.... now we can have folding or adjustable stocks. Let's use the car as an example, your driving age daughter is short, has to adjust the seat forward to drive. You are tall, let the seat back. Simple. The CAR(carbine telescoping) stock lets me adjust the stock short for my daughter, longer for me, and even longer for my very tall son. We can all shoot the same rifle with a simple adjustment.

A folding or telescoping stock is a convenience for storage, and does not make the firearm "concealable." It still won't fit under your shirt. The carbine is still 30" long with the stock in its shortest position, and about 35" with stock extended. Odd thing, you could legally put on a short fixed stock (so-called "tactical" stock) that is the same length as the adjustable CAR stock in its FULLY COLLAPSED POSITION. Some of these short "tactical stocks" have EXTENDABLE buttplates. Those were legal, but not the carbine "telescopic stock". If you can figure out the logic of this, fine, I can't.

None of the now legal features, their presence or lack, makes the AR-15 shoot more rapidly, with more velocity, whatever.

Magazines holding more than 10 rounds made after the enactment of the AWB could only be sold to cops, not civilians. But civilians could buy and use magazines made before the ban. Prices rose from $8 for a M16 30 round mag to as high as $40.

And these larger (normal capacity) magazines could be used in firearms made during the ban. Only new magazines were banned.

And now families of our soldiers overseas will be able to buy NEW Beretta 9mm 15 round (standard capacity) magazines to send to them in Iraq. The military Checkmate brand mags are apparently very trouble prone, and make our soldiers pistols unreliable... risking their life even more than just being in a warzone. This has nothing to do with the AR-15, but a benefit of the sunset.

Florida76, I hope this answers your question.

And why should you own an AR-15? They are FUN to shoot, easy to handle, and are effective home defense firearms. Recoil is very light, the firearm as a whole is light. Your wife and children can learn to shoot it quickly and safely.


Two asides:

Clarification: The ban had NOTHING to do with machine guns. It was illegal before and during the ban, and is still illegal for you to have a machinegun, except under very exceptional circumstances, and you STILL MAY NOT convert an AR-15 to full auto. You still may not go into a store and buy a full auto like any other gun. Let me repeat, the AWB had NO effect on MACHINE GUNS. Not even apples and oranges, we are talking apples and parking garages. AWB affected only semi autos, not machine guns.

Lest anyone think my car analogy is silly, I was told that in one European country, I think Holland?, that mag wheels ARE illegal, as are most hot rod type mods. But they ARE allowed to put on hubcaps that simply LOOK like mag wheels. In Germany you can get in trouble for having dents, ugly peeling paint and rust on your car. You have to get that fixed.

Since I radically support to protect my gun rights...

I guess now I'll have to also radically support to protect my car rights!

Quoted: Since I radically support www.nrastore.com/nra/images/detail/10423.jpg to protect my gun rights... I guess now I'll have to also radically support www.nitromall.com/images/NDC02-6.jpg to protect my car rights!

You mean you weren't a member all ready?

Quoted: You mean you weren't a member all ready?

NHRA?  *sigh*  No.  (I'm so ashamed)

I was big into it in the 70s, but got busy.
I just renewed 5 minutes ago.

I'll need it since I'm moving to Gainesville, FL this summer so I can be closer to the GatorNationals  

Quoted: <--- is embarassed by how many GD participants missed this brilliant satire <--- is also pissed that someone else posted "molon labe" before I got a pic of my Mustang in. Best thread in a long time--thanks SubnetMask.

+1

On a related note, given the incidence of vehicular fatalities approaching epidemic levels, Congress is considering banning all privately owned self-powered wheeled vehicles.  You will be required to either ride the bus (because bus drivers are the only ones profeshunal enough), or utilize these to commute to work:

Quoted: Quoted: <--- is embarassed by how many GD participants missed this brilliant satire <--- is also pissed that someone else posted "molon labe" before I got a pic of my Mustang in. Best thread in a long time--thanks SubnetMask. +1 On a related note, given the incidence of vehicular fatalities approaching epidemic levels, Congress is considering banning all privately owned self-powered wheeled vehicles.  You will be required to either ride the bus (because bus drivers are the only ones profeshunal enough), or utilize these to commute to work: i.walmart.com/i/p/00/04/23/85/95/0004238595650_215X215.jpg

You think they will allow these??

You think they will allow these??

www.originalbigwheel.com/images/OCCjpg.jpg



NO WAY!, that's an EBBR

Evil Black and Blue Ride on toy!!

You must be crazy!!!

C.M.

one word

75 mph!!!  Why does anyone (other than the government) need to go that fast?  

This is clearly a "common sense" regulation - only an extremist would oppose it.

Do it for the children.  

There is no constitutional right to a vehicle - it's a collective right that allows the states to own vehicles.  

Even if there was a constitutional right to a vehicle, it would only apply to vehicles in existence at the time the Constitution was enacted - horse and buggies, not these baby-murdering assault cars.

Did I miss any?

if it's not satire, he needs to be beatin'


if it was satire-it was a waste of time

Quoted: You think they will allow these?? www.originalbigwheel.com/images/OCCjpg.jpg

My God!  The Hot Rod lobby depends on being able to entice young children into joining this dangerous and deadly activity.  We should also ban all realistic-looking toy hot rods, as they are unsafe and can lead to tragedy if they are mistaken for the real thing by a traffic officer!

At the very least, all toy hot rods should have bright orange wheels to avoid confusing them with real hot rods!

I know my children will never be allowed to play with these evil things!

Originally Posted By subjectofcalifornia: if it's not satire, he needs to be beatin' if it was satire-it was a waste of time

A little too close to home, there bud?