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Posted: 3/17/2006 12:18:33 PM EDT
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Looks like you cant drink in bars any more either www.nbc5i.com/news/8034788/detail.html |
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Paging Ron White...... |
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Holy Shit! I've been so drunk in bars that the waitress had to pour my beer for me!!!
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Here in this town we have The St Paddys day run,we start at one bar and make our way across town,having a shot at each bar. This has been going on for years,last year the police started arresting people for being drunk in public. Most likley has to do with the churches in town,trying to have things their way.
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Wow, that is some bullshit. Guess there is nothing better for cops to do in TX these days than harrass citizens.
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Our local Irish pub is such a problem spot that we staff the event area with 6 cops on foot patrol and bill the bar $900.00 per officer for the OT. Last year at 9PM the bar owner asked the Sgt to drive him to the bank to make the night deposit becuase they already had $200,000.00 cash on hand!!! With 6 of us there we wil still arrest several people for DUI, fights, sex assaults, drug possession, disorderly conduct, ect. Its a zoo. |
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Irving? I hope they don't do this in any of the northern suburbs, damned TABC.
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In most states it is illegal for a bar to serve an obviously intoxicant person. The elements of the crime fro Drunk is public is unable to care for yourself. not simply intoxicated. If someone is passed out in the bar bathroom or under the tables, coverd in his own vomit or piss/shit he shouldnt get a ticket? |
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Then if you leave the bar on foot you get charged with public intoxication. |
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What a bunch of shit. Go after the childmolesters and rapists and leave us drunks alone. |
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Started early, did we? |
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Yeah, I'm aware of the legalities of serving an "obviously intoxicated" person, I worked as a licensed bartender for several years & I've cut many people off. That doesn't change the fact that what the TX cops did was bullshit.
IMO, no. If it were my bar I'd pack the guy into a cab and send him home. Obviously you feel differently. |
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Reminds me of something that happened to a friend of mine; he was in a bar when two patrons got in a fight, naturally the police were called. Once the police had the fight handled they then made everyone who wished to leave take a breathalyzer test. My friend (who wasn't driving) was drunk but as he couldn't leave he sat at the bar drinking water for hours till he felt he was sober enough to pass. |
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I don't want to be drunk in public. I want to be drunk in a bar. Arrest them! I love the way he says "public." |
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Hell no they shouldn't get a ticket! Why should the state or local popos get money off someone because they're drunk? |
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Are they going to go into the public restrooms and ticket people for indecent exposure and public urination?
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Because the cops have to babysit his drunk ass for the next 4-6 hours until he's sober eneough to care for himself. Meaning there are two less cops ptrolling your city. |
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Hey thats great if you want to help out a customer tyhat way. just please do a couple things first to help out the cops & fire department. 1. pay the cabby unfront so it doesnt turn into a theft of services when the drunk gets home and has no money to pay or tries to run off. 2. call the guys house to make sure someone is there to care for him so he doesnt injure himself in a fall or die choking on his own vomit. 3. Slip the cabby a little extra to clean the piss/shit/vomit out of his cab. |
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Then maybe the cops should stay out on the streets patrolling the city instead of going into bars for the sole purpose of harrassing patrons who, for all the cops know, were ten minutes away from calling a cab to go home. Sounds like this city has too many cops anyway if that is all they can find to do to fill their shift. |
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A lot of my friends are bartenders, you'd be surprised what they get held accountable for, just for a drunk staggering in. Even if they don't serve them, I've seen many times the police coming in and practically shutting the place down, because some asshole did something stupid and claimed they got drunk there. A few weeks ago in a bar run by a friend, In come the police after closing asking if they remembered this one asshole. He was shitfaced and claimed he just left to find his car stolen. They bartender asked his name, and it turned out he payed with a credit card. He cashed out and left hours ago. It turned out he tried to drive home and crashed his car. He walked back to the bar, and called the cops around the corner at a payphone and said his car was stolen. Don't just blame the cops. A lot of stupid people helped make the situation fucked up. |
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How can someone be charged for public intoxication if they are intoxicated on private property?
I hate how our legal system has twisted the definition of "public." Unless the govenrment owns that particular bar then it is not "public" it is a private business. |
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Notice the utter contempt for the citizenry. I'd better arrest them for public intoxication because, in the future, they will make a bad decision and kill someone. Note, the possibility of a citizen getting drunk in a bar and then acting responsibly by calling a cab hasn't occurred to officer hero here. I wonder if they are enforcing the same policy in the local cop bars. |
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Yeah, because when he gets home, pukes into his lungs and dies, guess whose fault it will be? In some states, VA, .08 or .10, will get you "drunk in public". Others you have to be incapactiitated to be charged. In WI if you are incapacitated, you get taken to detox or a hospital, not a criminal offense. |
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Because a business that is open to the public has a different expectation of privacy than someplace that is open to the public. |
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I have no problem with arresting someone if they are drunk in public and causing a large disturbance, otherwise leave them alone. I'm sure its all for public safety huh? |
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State alcohol cops go after child molesters? |
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I don't know about TX, but the local cops here will go to bars and hand out MIPs and stuff. |
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Any fuckwad cop who arrests someone in a bar for MERELY (not fighting or otherwise causing a ruckus) being drunk, deserves to have the shit kicked out them coming home from the grocery store some night.
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I think I need to call my state rep. I've found some pork in the budget that needs cutting.
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Public intoxication is for being in a public place not on public property. By your reasoning it would be okay to have sex in the middle of Wal-Mart parking lot in front of young children because it is private property. If the public has access, then it is a public place. |
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I would love to know if any of those undercover officers who "shared" tables with the folks arrested bought them drinks. Can you say "entrapment?"
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What bullshit. "Public intoxication" requires that you be so drunk as to be a danger to yourself or others. If the cop feels the need to perform a field sobriety test to see if someones drunk, they're not there yet. What we have here are arrests in violation of the Fourth Amendment. There's a bunch of damn TABC agents and Irving cops who need a little time out in jail to think about the difference between arresting someone because he has committed a crime and because he might commit a crime. |
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The legal definition of PI in Texas (Texas Penal Code § 49.02):
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So you think your going to enjoy being a grown-up after you get out of high school? Because you sure are being immature for a sophomore here. I suggest you pay attention next year when you take Civics. |
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No thats utter contempt for the drunks, who deserve it. Notice they have already shown they are unable to make adult decisions. Expecting them to sober up enough to call a cab is like believing in the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny. They got to that condition being stupid, why expect them mto change? especially when drunk? |
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Dude, you hit the nail right on the head with that statement. |
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Part of the rules that business agrees to abide by when it is licensed. The bar is public in that anyone of age may enter from the street during business hours. It is not a private club such as the Elks, VFW or whatever, where you need to be a member or guest of a member to be present. |
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What a load of shit. I've been falling down puking drunk before and I NEVER even thought of getting into a car and driving home. Its the people who don't think they're drunk yet that are the problem. Seriously, have you never been drunk before? |
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Dallas Area is dieing on the vine. The control freaks in office are getting stupid.
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In my city you can be arrested for being drunk in your own home. Not by the police, but by your family or roomates. "Drunk in a private home to the annoyance of others" The victim/complaintant must sign an order of arrest and the cops transport the suspect to jail on that order.
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I guess next they will be saying people cannot get drunk in their own home
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That law is tyrannical in nature. Seriously, at some point the state has to butt out and let people handle their own problems. |
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If that was from anywhere in the US besides CA I wouldn't believe it. |
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The ironic thing is in California we dont arrest for so many things other states do. For example in some states those who are under 21 and have been drinking alcohol can be ticketed for something called "minor consumption." We dont have that here. in fact its legal for those under 21 to drink inside a private home. I have a hard time wrapping my head around how a 20 year old man can get a ticket because he drank alcohol at some point earlier in the night. Hell, how do they establish what juristiction the "crime" occured it? Jusyt because he has a measurable amount of alcohol is his system doesnt mean he necessarily consumed that alcohol in your city/county/state. Issues like that is why in my state we cant arrests for most misdemeanors not committed in our presence with the exception of DUI, Domestic violence, Child Abuse and violations of court orders. We dont jail people for marijuana possession, unlicensed or suspended driver, minor in possession, open container or drunk in public like many states do. |
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