My dad got a Saiga .410 cheap, and he's killed a truckload of pheasants with it. It has zero recoil, and is reliable like an AK. If I remember correctly it only held five rounds, but you could unload so fast and so smoothly it was almost like one long continuous shot. The first time I shot it I wasn't sure the gun had gone off, if the clay wouldn't have broken I would have thought it was a misfire.