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Posted: 1/9/2006 6:44:47 AM EDT
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from the folks that brought you TAILHOOK...............
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Posted: 1/9/2006 6:46:22 AM EDT
[#2]
Ahhh, the new, improved, politically correct military. De-balling troops everywhere.....
Jackoffs...... They wouldn't have survived the military of the past. |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 6:58:05 AM EDT
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The military of the past was greatly inferior to the military of the present. Swearing should be expected from the uneducated masses that make up the enlisted force of our military, but an educated officer(in this case a professor) should not be making any sexually suggestive or derogatory remarks(along with racist,xenophobic, sexist, religious) around his students or subordinates; the Academy is a place to get your education, not a place to learn the newest slang. |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 7:06:48 AM EDT
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Sometimes I think women in the military is a good idea. Then there are days when I see that too many of them just don't get it...IT'S THE MILITARY!!!! SOMEONE SHOOTING AT YOUR ASS WILL BE A DAMN SIGHT WORSE THAN THE GUY SAYING BATLLESHIPS GIVE HIM A HARD-ON!!! GET OVER IT OR GET OUT!!!
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Posted: 1/9/2006 7:08:11 AM EDT
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Yeah, spill your fancy book-learnin' to Patton. I suspect you'd have heard a few choice words. AND his outfit was as good as any we have today, for the time. Next you'll say the world has become so sophisticated that we can just outlaw war. |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 7:09:21 AM EDT
[#6]
So sexually offensive language is only offensive to females?
 Those poor women! Cover their ears |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 7:11:56 AM EDT
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Was this in class, or in a "conversation"?
Good grief! 
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Posted: 1/9/2006 7:15:45 AM EDT
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Does it matter? There are certain of that gender whose sole purpose is to get into an institution like that to a) stir up trouble b) get a fat payday c) both They know that once the allegation is out they will find others willing to cash in as well, even at the expense of ruining a fine institution even further. If it's a real problem, fine. I suspect 90% of the reports that make the news are bullshit. |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 7:16:34 AM EDT
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God help us.... |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 7:18:50 AM EDT
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There is no excuse for an individual with a PhD, serving as professor at one of our nation's best colleges, to be spouting off vitriolic garbage in front of his students. At the very least, the professor should of refrained from talking about his ex-wife at all, as private life is supposed to remain almost completely seperate from work life in academics.
No, we need to get rid of the Abrahamic religions first before we can do that. |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 7:18:55 AM EDT
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They're military cadets not children.
"Oh, my virgin ears! I'm emotionally traumatized!" If foul language gets someone shaken up in the military, I'd hate to have them lead troops when bullets start flying. "Ma'am! A terrorist just blew up the fuckin triage area! What are we going to do?" "OMG! You used foul language! I can't function properly!" |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 7:19:47 AM EDT
[#12]
How true. 
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Posted: 1/9/2006 7:30:38 AM EDT
[#13]
That sucks...a couple of female swabs get their panties in a bunch over a silly remark and this guy gets railroaded.
Sheesh...  And the pussyfication of America continues...
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Posted: 1/9/2006 7:30:46 AM EDT
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hey, if you want to perpetuate the majority opinion that all forces of the military are comprised of uneducated morons who barely passed high school, be my guest. |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 10:24:36 AM EDT
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Oh, man, do you sound pompous. I am sure the many college educated, very literate and intelligent EM's in the service would take grave exception to your
And I think the only majority opinion that our military is comprised of uneducated morons who barely passed high school is held by libs, dems and socialists (ie traitors). Fuck them and the boat they rode in on. And I would rather share a fighting position with one of the "uneducated masses" who knows how to swear and fight than an eggheaded stick up the ass know it all anyday. I'd love to see you in the military in WWII...you could go lecture Patton about his xenphobic, and racist tendencies after his "kill the krauts and use their guts to grease the tank treads" speech. You sound like you are ready to go right to the top, and join with the high ranking, not really a soldier (or Marine or sailor or airman), boot licking, PC line toeing sycophants who pose as Generals who do a great job neutering the troops....Oh, yeah, you probably agree with not allowing the troops to bring home souvenirs too right? |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 10:30:54 AM EDT
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Unfortunately, in todays witch trial, "PC" hysterical environment, the guy should have kept any conversation with a plebe/cadet "professional" in every way.
I have been retired for 3 years and it was getting exactly this way before I left.  |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:10:27 AM EDT
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The military of the past may well have been inferior to that of today, but that doesn't excuse or redeem the GELDINGS responsible for busting an officer for his fucking language. That's conduct unbecoming an officer right there.. Being a fucking pussy. Nobody stopped at the Battle of Midway to see how the sailors FELT about the whole thing. Bull Halsey didn't hang banners in Pearl reading "Win the Hearts of More of our Respected Japanese Opponent". |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:14:36 AM EDT
[#18]
Things look different from the grown-up table.
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:17:09 AM EDT
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I guess the Navy lawyers must be real bored sitting around pushing papers.
 Imagine their excitement, "Ooooh ooooh someone said naughty words in the Navy! All briefcases to port, full speed ahead, to political correctness stations!"
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:17:28 AM EDT
[#20]
Stop the remarks...it's for the children!
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:19:18 AM EDT
[#21]
Fe Fi Fo Fum...I smell the blood of a....TROLL! 
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:21:29 AM EDT
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so now "Abrahamic" religions are the cause of war?...
...is that an original thought PREMED? or just part of your new age brainwashing?...
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:24:11 AM EDT
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so would I, but you are being really moronic if you believe that it is appropriate for a professor at a military academy to make sex related remarks around his students with impunity. I suppose you would support me, if I were a professor, telling my students how I view Christianity as a stupid religion, filled with barbarous morons who only follow it because they are cowards who fear non-existence? Neither are acceptable in positions of academia or other professional settings; I would like to think that our military is more disciplined and organized than a gentlemen's club.
I feel that there is a difference between offensive comments in morale building speeches in the middle of a war, and talking off hand to your students about what gets your rocks off. In Patton's case, he was talking to the uneducated men that made up the enlisted force, so it is appropriate to converse with them in their own language; the professor was conversing with individuals who are educated, future officers, and using sexually suggestive language is something that isn't acceptable between officers and cadets.
I do not think that you have any right to take anything from a foreign country that you do not pay for. If you kill a soldier, that weapon is now the property of YOUR COUNTRY, NOT you and such a weapon should be either: 1) destroyed 2) turned over to the armory from there, you can buy them from your military if they will let you. |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:26:30 AM EDT
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read Richard Dawkin's books and statements regarding the analysis of religion and how its inherit bigotry and superiority complex is destructive to mankind. |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:30:47 AM EDT
[#25]
Ahh, now we have it, it is God's fault..... |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:31:12 AM EDT
[#26]
Ahhhhh...OK(?)......
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:32:56 AM EDT
[#27]
Jeez, if you can't call your ex-wife an ignorant #%$@*, who can you call it?
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:34:27 AM EDT
[#28]
I didn't think it was an original thought...you should be more carefull what you put into your mind...R. Dawkins
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:34:51 AM EDT
[#29]
 But you won't because you will lose the argument and you'd have to come up with something else to replace religion. Besides, if you're recourse is to refer to a book, might as well refer to the Bible.
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:41:49 AM EDT
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For those who don't know, here are a few gems from his Wikipedia entry.
Blaming all religion for Wabbism. Cute.
Doesn't like debate. Typical.
PETA insanity at its finest. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins Basically your typical leftist douche. |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:41:58 AM EDT
[#31]
I love the last part...please, please, please tell me you are not or will not be in any sort of position where you will make policy for the military....People who think like you are destroying the military with PC bullshit. To the victors go the spoils.... |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:45:43 AM EDT
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the victor is the US military, you are in a communal society when you are serving with the military in a war. From each according to his abilities, to each according to his need 
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:47:32 AM EDT
[#33]
Shit, stop the presses, someone should put you on the Joint Chief of Staffs....you'd fit right in.... |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:47:40 AM EDT
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Just before I retired in '92, I had to attend a lecture in the base theater about PC bullshit. Tailhook was still a painful boil on our asses and the Navy leadership was still running scared.
Anyway...for about two hours out of my normally otherwise productive day, I, a surface warfare officer and one who had NEVER in any way abused, maltreated, or made any pass at any hottie female sailor, had to endure some smug, snarky female officer as she told me and all of the rest of us males just how fucked up we all were. This from a non-warrior, land-lubber who had probably never been to sea a day in her career. I then had to sign a fucking document that attested that I was never at Tailhook and was not a sexist prick! That pissed me off SO much!  Then a couple of years ago, I learned that the Navy has changed the Crossing The Line Ceremony and the Chiefs' Initiation, two of the most hallowed and ancient ceremonies in the services. In fact, there |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:49:16 AM EDT
[#35]
Swearing, and most lewd talk, should be required in the US Navy and the other services. Well, maybe not the USAF, somehow it doesn't sound sincere coming out of those blue suits.
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:51:10 AM EDT
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No, they DO understand. You may have loyalty to the commune and only the commune. Family, Church, Fleet, etc. must go. One of the goals of PC is to supplant all other moral codes with its own perverse logic. |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 11:55:38 AM EDT
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Yes, and you can thank people who think like this Pre Med Gunner guy.... So they pussified the time honored tradition of the transformation of Pollywogs into Shellbacks? Unbelievable. My Dad was in the Navy, COMSVNTHFLT in Flag Plot....he told me many times about the "festivities" associated with crossing the equator...and I have his pics and his cruise books with more pics. (He also has been inducted into the Domain of the Golden Dragon....crossing the International Dateline, however he is not a Golden Shellback). I love to talk to him about his days in the Navy. So what do they do now? No more seeing the Royal Dentist, or kissing th Royal Baby's belly? Or appearing before King Neptune? What they have a ceremony on the mess deck and just pronounce everybody as Shellbacks? Where do these people come from....lets destroy centuries of tradition, lets keep our boy from bringing back a souvenir or two, we must be politically correct....lets not offend our enemies... Sad, sad, sad..... |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 12:04:10 PM EDT
[#38]
I'd rather see women home barefoot and pregnant then in a service academy where their poor widdle sensitive ears might be offended. Wonder what will happen when they have to tell some guy to clean the head? Will they stroke out?
And I suspect the same women would do better IF they were home, and barefoot and pregnant. Oh, and my ex is a BITCH. Offended? To bad, because it's the truth. |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 12:22:02 PM EDT
[#39]
Suggest spell/grammar checking before pontificating on academia. |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 12:25:35 PM EDT
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Damn, and I always liked the Feud... |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 12:26:19 PM EDT
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I, like a few others, attended a military academy. My squadron was ran by an A10 driver who was tough as nails. Thank God for him.
Back to the story.............that sucks. Military academies exist, and have existed, to produce officers, leaders, who have to LEAD. Sometimes even in WAR  . And sometimes, you actually have to be tough, rough, and unrefined. Leave the higher thinkers at the Ivy League schools and give me Patton any day!! |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 12:28:16 PM EDT
[#42]
-K |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 12:29:57 PM EDT
[#43]
Well, they all can't be fighter pilot/secret agent types like on JAG...............
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Posted: 1/9/2006 12:38:33 PM EDT
[#44]
The military of the past was greatly inferior to the military of the present. Swearing should be expected from the uneducated masses that make up the enlisted force of our military, but an educated officer(in this case a professor) should not be making any sexually suggestive or derogatory remarks(along with racist,xenophobic, sexist, religious) around his students or subordinates; the Academy is a place to get your education, not a place to learn the newest slang.
You condecending sum bitch! Fuck you and your "holier-than-thou" attitude. Sincerely, Enlisted member of your "uneducated masses." |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 12:44:41 PM EDT
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While I agree that it is inapropriate for an instructor at an academy to be spewing vulgarity about his ex-wife to his students, it is certainly not worthy of a court-martial or even some formal reprimand
 And even if slightly inapporpriate in a classrom context, it is STILL the military, which more than compensates for that. People need to lighten the fuck up. FWIW, I am currently a university professor, and USED to be an army officer (back in the old country). I use video clips in my undergraduate class that contain among other, the following gems: "Well, we're in a hell of a fucking mess here, aren't we" "Do you hear me, you fucking faggots?" "Jesus jumping Christ. Two fucking weeks and everyone's swimming the other fucking way" "Fuck you, is my name" As long as things are in a context, there's nothing wrong with foul language. 
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Posted: 1/10/2006 6:14:13 AM EDT
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Glad some EM decided to thank this dipwad.....this guy is a piece of work! |
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Posted: 1/10/2006 6:21:49 AM EDT
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What's wrong with telling Navy kids doing weapons training to aim for "high center mass" instead of saying "head shot"?? Or telling female recruits to keep their "lower extremities" a certain distance apart while in a shooting stance so as not to offend them by telling them to keep their legs apart? Isn't that progress? |
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Posted: 1/10/2006 6:28:46 AM EDT
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+1 And who do you think keeps the military running? Is it an educated officer that keeps a $2B stealth bomber in the air or handful of the uneducated masses? |
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Posted: 1/10/2006 6:30:12 AM EDT
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Maybe not from the boys in polyester, but those of us that wear green still need to curse on occasion. Sometimes a jet just needs to be sweared at to work. |
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Posted: 1/10/2006 7:04:53 AM EDT
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Those are the truest words I've read here this week. Been there, done that, too.  |
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But, surely you see the difference between making some comments to a few students and standing up before a class in the lecture hall Neither are acceptable in positions of academia or other professional settings; I would like to think that our military is more disciplined and organized than a gentlemen's club. Man, you must be a real drag to be around