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im not looking for a competition hand gun. just a carry on for close quarters. for cheap but it has to be reliable.

Just don't shoot it alot, You can find better for a few more $$

Quoted: http://ableammo.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=44_4183_4184 im not looking for a competition hand gun. just a carry on for close quarters. for cheap but it has to be reliable.

Used Glock 19. $350+/-. Used Smith snubby DAO wheelgun +/- $250. Why choose an untested carry gun? I can see it as a BUG or a Detroit reload for the glovebox but that's it.

"seem to be as good or better options in that same price range."

like what brand? and are almost as small?

I'll chime in as a satisfied Keltec P11 owner - it's been very reliable out of the box (no need for the fluff & buff treatment), has eaten all kinds of ammo w/o a hiccup.  It's accuracy is waht you expect of a gun of this type, and the trigger is long (but mine is pretty even & smooth throughout the pull - I did add the trigger shoe) & heavy.

It's accuracy (in my hands) was as good as my Glock 30 (my previous CCW).  There are some rough machine marks under the hard-chrome finish, and the overall fit/finish is not as nice as other firearms.  That said, I still have the Keltec, but sold the glock years ago.  I wish it had a better safety system, but other than that it's well worth the $250 I paid for it.

Sam

p.s. - also the satisfied owner of a Keltec p32 (but I have only about 500 rounds through this one)