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Posted: 9/25/2005 5:21:26 PM EDT
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its not my auction by the way and it only has 30 mins left!!
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Posted: 9/25/2005 5:39:45 PM EDT
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any opinions on price of these things?
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Posted: 9/25/2005 5:45:24 PM EDT
[#3]
Wouldn't this still be considered a destructive device?
Who has a 40mm launcher anyway? I know you can get the 37mm ones but . . . |
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Posted: 9/25/2005 5:52:06 PM EDT
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Well, I put a bid on it. Hopefully I win. It would be a good show piece.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 5:54:25 PM EDT
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Holy shit! $45 shipping! J/K
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Posted: 9/25/2005 5:55:48 PM EDT
[#6]
The chalk rounds are just plastic projectiles that shatter upon impact, no explosives in the projectile - no DD. And there are a number of people who own real, working M203s. |
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Posted: 9/25/2005 5:56:11 PM EDT
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several folks have 40mm here, you can do the proper paper worka nd get one if ya wnat ot spend major dough |
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Posted: 9/25/2005 5:56:51 PM EDT
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Yes, but the real M203's are considered DD's and must be registered. 
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Posted: 9/25/2005 6:04:50 PM EDT
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Yay!! I win! I win!! I will be the owner of a chalk rocket!
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Posted: 9/25/2005 6:12:14 PM EDT
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Now you need 5 more and and a bandoleer to keep them in.
I can help you with that. 
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Posted: 9/25/2005 6:29:51 PM EDT
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No, Destructive Devices, Machine Guns, etc. don't have to be "Registered"--they have to have a TRANSFER TAX paid to posess them.
Technically, the MG (DD, SBR, SBS, AOW, etc.) is listed in the NATIONAL FIREARMS TRANSFER REGISTRY (actually a tax log). Still one of the most screwed up things the Gov.org came up with--for you to get an NFA item, you have to submit paperwork, get fingerprints, a CLEO signoff --just to be sure you are eligiable to pay the tax. And, they set the $200 tax ($5 for AOW, if only because one Legislator of the time had the balls to stand up for something) at the value (at the time) of a Thompson SMG. The idea was that 'gangsters' used them, so if they doubled the price, the gangsters wouldn't get them--so, the average joe now couldn't afford them, however the rum runners (and Irish Whiskey smugglers--you know how your family got their money, don't you Ted Kennedy!!) had plenty of $$ and had no trouble buying the guns. It is also my understanding that live (Explosive) 40mm shells are individual destructive devices and need to have a $200 transfer tax paid on EACH shell (Damn expensive shooting). AFARR |
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Posted: 9/25/2005 6:41:10 PM EDT
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Well In CO the STATE considers any ammo over .50 cal to be DD ammo and requires you to have a "Storage permit". Even for chalk rounds... Trust me on this. |
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Posted: 9/25/2005 7:29:37 PM EDT
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Hmmm.. I am pretty sure that a 40mm tube requires a stamp.
Please correct me if I am wrong. CH off to look thru the atf faq |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 6:54:19 PM EDT
[#14]
Yes, the tube is a DD.
Individual explosive cartridges for it are also separate DDs Chalk, etc. are not. AFARR |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 6:56:39 PM EDT
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Hate to burst your bubble, but I don't think DDs are legal in MI. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 7:05:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/26/2005 7:05:33 PM EDT
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In 1960 the NRA got congress to pass a law that lowered the transfer tax on AOWs to five dollars.
Some AOWs also got taken off the registery. CRC |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 7:07:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/26/2005 7:17:35 PM EDT
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So what are all the AOW's out there? All I can thinkof are the "Pen Guns" and short barrell shotguns. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 8:02:34 PM EDT
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So what are all the AOW's out there? All I can thinkof are the "Pen Guns" and short barrell shotguns. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 8:09:11 PM EDT
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Shotgun with a forward grip (Serbu Super Shorty).
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Posted: 9/26/2005 8:15:31 PM EDT
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suitcase guns, cane guns, smoothbore pistols,
Forget the whole definition |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 9:19:20 PM EDT
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Shit, I've got a case of 25 chalk rounds I'd love to sell for $13 each! Any takers?
They can be had for much cheaper than that........... |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 9:22:19 PM EDT
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where can you find them cheaper? |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 9:28:41 PM EDT
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I paid $400 for 100 rounds from a subguns.com ad a few months ago. They are classed "seconds" so there have been a few duds (100 foot flight or less.) I've had less than 10% of the rounds fail to fire properly though. That still works out to less than $4.50 each. www.bigskysurplus.com was the seller. He is now listing them at $175/25 on his website ($7 each.) If you buy two cases (200 rounds) the price drops to $4.95 ($990 for 200.) He doesn't say they are seconds, so these should be first quality. I saw him at the local fun show a month or two ago, and he still had some seconds for $125/25. I should have bought more..... |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 9:38:55 PM EDT
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smoothbore pistols, why would that be special? I want a 37mm now.... |
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