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Posted: 9/23/2005 6:36:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 6:40:08 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2005 6:45:59 PM EDT
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I's suggest going to the 1100. It's only slightly heavier, and everyone I know who has had the 650 has either traded bigger soon after, bitched about not getting the 1100. Anything over 55mph, and the 650 gets buzzy as hell and vibrates your hands to sleep.

+1 on a used. You're gonna drop it, might as well drop something that cost half as much.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 6:50:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2005 6:56:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2005 6:57:18 PM EDT
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I have a 02  650 V-star classic. I love it. I am only 5'5" 160, and my ex was 5' 2" 90 lbs and it handled us fine. My brother in law bought the 1100 V-Star silverado. It's just as good.

A 650 is a great first bike and 1100 is heavier and a little harder to handle and easier to drop. I am glad I went with the 650, I dont think I need an 1100. Hope this helps

Jim

Link Posted: 9/23/2005 6:59:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:01:20 PM EDT
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Notwithstanding the weight, 1100s are easier to drive than 650s.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:01:28 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:03:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:04:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:04:56 PM EDT
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Good advice on buying used.  Those bikes depreciate like they are dropped out of an airplane.  
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:09:19 PM EDT
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I bought a brand new vstar 650 in 2000.

It is a great bike.  The shaft drive is nice and smooth.  

As others have said, it is a little light in power, my top speed was only about 97 mph.  If hauling a passenger, it was pretty slow to get there too.

It would make a great first bike though, it rides great, will do well over the speed limit and sets low to the ground.

It was very reliable, I had no problems in the four years that I owned mine.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:10:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:13:47 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:21:07 PM EDT
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Quoted:

If it handled the two of you tiny folks, it will handle me if I don't get fries with my cheeseburger.

Just teasin'...

Thanks for the input.  I know this will sound stupid but why would it be easier to drop the heay bike instead of the light bike?



Most drops occur when stopped and the extra weight makes it harder to lift it up before it gets to the point of no return.

I bought mine 2 yrs old for $3500.00 with 3200 mi. on it, it looked brand new. Buying used is something to look into. If you are a big guy you may want an 1100. I ended up putting Vance and Hines pipes, rejetted the carb and a hypercharger for extra sound, performance and looks. I love mine even more now.

If you do get a 650 don't supersize those fries
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:30:07 PM EDT
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You indict me... Yes, I am a speed junky.  With a top speed of 97 it should keep me getting fewer tickets than I deserve.



If you're feeling the need for speed, then go for the V-Max.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:31:43 PM EDT
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Notwithstanding the weight, 1100s are easier to drive than 650s.



Why?  Again, I am stupid here and this is an honest question...



Torque. plain and simple.
a 650 cruiser is a lot different than a 600 crotch rocket.
on a cruiser, the ability to keep it in any gear at any time is nice, and for that, you need torque.  go look in a cycle trader and see just how cheap a nice two year old bike with low miles can be.  Unless you can't get financed anywhere else, I'd never buy a bike at a dealership.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:33:20 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:36:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:42:41 PM EDT
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If you're going to buy used, wait until the first good frost in your area.

You won't be sorry you waited.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:46:24 PM EDT
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If you're going to buy used, wait until the first good frost in your area.

You won't be sorry you waited.


Big +1
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 7:53:09 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:
Torque. plain and simple.
a 650 cruiser is a lot different than a 600 crotch rocket.
on a cruiser, the ability to keep it in any gear at any time is nice, and for that, you need torque.  go look in a cycle trader and see just how cheap a nice two year old bike with low miles can be.  Unless you can't get financed anywhere else, I'd never buy a bike at a dealership.



Roger that.  Makes sense...  Financing ain't a problem.  Knowing what to look for and where to look is the hurdle.  You guys make it sound like it ain't hard to find a good used bike so I will give a look.



True this.
You can drive an 1100 all day long in 1st gear and not exceed the speed limit.
You can also drive it all day long in 2nd 3rd 4th or 5th gear.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 8:02:05 PM EDT
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My wife currently rides a V-Star 1100 Classic.  She's only 5'-5", 130 lbs., and handles it just fine.  It would not have been a good bike as her first, because she has had a few mishaps over the years.  Namely, she went down on wet pavement out in Arkansas after locking the front brake at 45(+/-) mph.  That was on a 750 Virago.  She rode the wrecked bike home 900 miles over the following two days.

Yamaha is notorious for developing a bike or engine platform, and sticking with it for many years with very few mechanical changes.  Look around for a V-Star a few years old.  It will basically be the same bike as a brand new one, and will be a fraction of the cost.  If you look around, you should be able to find a nice 1100 for less than the cost of a new 650.  These things are pretty much bullet proof.  Don't worry about buying a used Yamaha with less than 20,000 miles.  It will serve you well.

Jump on the ISRA Forum, and read.  

Here's one example:  '03 1100 Classic, 7300 miles, $6000  



             
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 9:54:40 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:

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Notwithstanding the weight, 1100s are easier to drive than 650s.



Why?  Again, I am stupid here and this is an honest question...



Torque. plain and simple.
a 650 cruiser is a lot different than a 600 crotch rocket.
on a cruiser, the ability to keep it in any gear at any time is nice, and for that, you need torque.  go look in a cycle trader and see just how cheap a nice two year old bike with low miles can be.  Unless you can't get financed anywhere else, I'd never buy a bike at a dealership.



You want torque? The Road Star is where it's at!

I love mine, it made to cruise at 80mph, and perfect for trips.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 9:58:17 PM EDT
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a low mileage bike in decent shape should need VERY little work. bike shops are everywhere and they are not that costly to fix most problems.


Basically, I am lookin' for someone who tried it, didn't like it and now wants out?


engine guards are a must in my book. better to scrtch 100 worth of chrome than the motor/frame. i also prefer a windshield if riding on the major highways or roads. rocks and crap falling off trucks hurts like hell at 60 mph+ and so do bugs and rain.

Can I do the work myself and save some money?  Do I really need a shop to do the work?  That is to say, is the frame pre-drilled ready for add-on parts?


i also prefer a water cooled engine. here in the south days easily push 100. the extra cooling makes a BIG difference in traffic.
 Born in Montgomery, youth in Selma, grew up in Jax, FL...  Now I live in Atl, GA...  I am no stranger to heat...

Water cooled...is that affordable?




Water cooled bikes often have the advantage of more power from the same size engine, but there als drawbacks. If you like to fiddle with things yourself like I do, the aircooled Yamahas are simple and easy to mess with compared to the others. My first bike was a Kawasaki with a radiator, and one fine cool day, the radiator blew and sent scalding water and antifreeze down my leg. Luckily my chaps took most of the heat.

IM me when you decide what bike you want to get. We have a cabin in Blue Ridge and travel up there every spring. We'll meet up and head up to Suches and Dahlonega for some great riding. When you're ready for it, Deals Gap is close by as well.
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 4:41:25 AM EDT
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Quoted:

You want torque? The Road Star is where it's at!

I love mine, it made to cruise at 80mph, and perfect for trips.




+1    Precisely how I would describe my R*.  

Although it winds up a bit tighter, the 1100 V-Star will run all day long at 80+mph without a hitch.   The 650 simply can't do that with ease.  
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 5:40:56 AM EDT
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What state are  you in? I know someone with a slightly used one for sale.....cheap!
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 6:20:56 AM EDT
[#28]
J,
I might just what your looking for check your IM's.
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 8:26:45 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:59:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2005 6:10:18 PM EDT
[#31]
I was just going to suggest you pick up a Harley 883...in case you were interested in resale...
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 6:53:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/30/2005 9:56:54 PM EDT
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I'm only 5'4'' and rode a vstar 1100 custom. I had roadhouse 2in1 pipes with fin tip and serrated heat shields. I put a mustang seat and some risors on the handlebars also. Mine was a white one. I had a virago 750 before that. I didn't wreck either one but I had a couple kickstand mishaps on the 750 where it wasn't all the way down and the bike fell over. I never had to pick up my own vstar but I picked up a friends that was just like mine and the vtar seemed easier to pick up, lower center of gravity I guess. I got the virago up to 115 and the vstar up to 110. It was, how should I say, more "exiteing" on the virago. I also got an oil filter relocation kit, for some reason every bike as a design flaw and in this model you have to loosen the pipes to get at the filter. There is an aftermarket kit to fix that. I don't think you have to do that on the 650.

When I was younger me and my husband rode all over the east on a yamaha 500, people think you can't do crap on a bike smaller than a 1100 cc but that' s not really true. The vstar was easier to drive though, more comfy and all, and once you get used to it I could swerve it around as easy as a smaller bike.

Just my story. You'll enjoy your bike, I enjoyed mine.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 9:57:39 PM EDT
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Congrats.   Let us know what you think about it this time next year.  
Link Posted: 10/1/2005 4:43:11 AM EDT
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I like your decision, beautiful bike, not that I am bias or anything ( I have the same bike)

Are you a Ga. boy? If so, I am in Milledgeville Ga. we may need to hook up and head for the mountains.

Enjoy your toy, and keep the shiney side up....

Jim
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