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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - i MUST have something class III, help.

Posted: 9/18/2005 11:28:51 AM EDT

at the camden shoot yesterday i got to shoot some class III stuff and now i must own something. would love an m16 but cannot afford one. what about a silenced uzi? someone tell me the best bang for the buck class III weapon. and a synopsis of exactly what i will have to do to own it. thanks.

Posted: 9/18/2005 11:29:25 AM EDT

[#1]

MAC 10

Posted: 9/18/2005 11:34:25 AM EDT

[#2]

Ruger AC556's are actually reasonably priced and pretty neat.

Posted: 9/18/2005 11:35:11 AM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
MAC 10

+ Form 4, signed off by your chief LEO in the area, aka Police Chief, Sheriff etc etc

+ Prints and Form 4 sent off the to ATF with a $200 check for the "tax"

+ 6-9month wait

Or, alternatively, you could form a Corporation (mine's a Nevada Corp - 30 minutes of work and under $100 bucks to file) and avoid the whole sign-off/prints issue. FWIW, my first transfer took exactly 9 months. First transfer after setting up a corp took 4 months for the paperwork on a can to go through and 3 months for my Oly RR.

Macs are a real good way to get into NFA. I never got one myself...I went the Uzi route instead.

Sheep

Posted: 9/18/2005 11:38:11 AM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
Quoted:
MAC 10

+ Form 4, signed off by your chief LEO in the area, aka Police Chief, Sheriff etc etc

+ Prints and Form 4 sent off the to ATF with a $200 check for the "tax"

+ 6-9month wait

Or, alternatively, you could form a Corporation (mine's a Nevada Corp - 30 minutes of work and under $100 bucks to file) and avoid the whole sign-off/prints issue. FWIW, my first transfer took exactly 9 months. First transfer after setting up a corp took 4 months for the paperwork on a can to go through and 3 months for my Oly RR.

Macs are a real good way to get into NFA. I never got one myself...I went the Uzi route instead.

Sheep

sheep, where is a good place for me to go to for some tips on the corp. route? also where is a good place to price some classIII stuff? thanks.

Posted: 9/18/2005 11:38:23 AM EDT

[#5]

Full sized Uzis are running for around 6K, and MACs are running for around 3K. Nothing wrong with either one and both can be easily suppressed.

Posted: 9/18/2005 11:42:45 AM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
sheep, where is a good place for me to go to for some tips on the corp. route? also where is a good place to price some classIII stuff? thanks.

Huge resource here on our very own, beloved ARFCOM....go to the AR-15 forum, click on this:

M16 - Full Auto

FWIW, I got into my Uzi a looooooooooooong time ago, when they were quite a bit cheaper. Gloftoe is correct....a Mac will run you about half what an Uzi will. The AC556 is another good bet, but still more than a MAC.

Sheep

Posted: 9/18/2005 11:44:12 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
Quoted:
sheep, where is a good place for me to go to for some tips on the corp. route? also where is a good place to price some classIII stuff? thanks.

Huge resource here on our very own, beloved ARFCOM....go to the AR-15 forum, click on this:

M16 - Full Auto

FWIW, I got into my Uzi a looooooooooooong time ago, when they were quite a bit cheaper. Gloftoe is correct....a Mac will run you about half what an Uzi will. The AC556 is another good bet, but still more than a MAC.

Sheep

copy, thanks.

Posted: 9/18/2005 11:47:10 AM EDT

[#8]

stens are running about $4-5k now and they work pretty well, easily suppressed too...

Posted: 9/18/2005 11:51:23 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
copy, thanks.

Good luck on your journey. Watch out for David_Hineline. Mangina's always a little sandy with him.

Hmmm.....Stens. *goes off to GunBroker.com*

Sheep

Posted: 9/18/2005 11:53:15 AM EDT

[#10]

I would really like a FA rifle but since there is nowhere nearby I can shoot I gotta stick with SMGs, think of where you can shoot it first,

Would suck to have a MG you cant shoot on auto anywhere close.

Posted: 9/18/2005 12:00:05 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
I would really like a FA rifle but since there is nowhere nearby I can shoot I gotta stick with SMGs, think of where you can shoot it first,

Would suck to have a MG you cant shoot on auto anywhere close.

tax, this may be a stupid question, but what do you do with a SMG that is different than a FA rifle?

Posted: 9/18/2005 12:01:51 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Quoted:
I would really like a FA rifle but since there is nowhere nearby I can shoot I gotta stick with SMGs, think of where you can shoot it first,

Would suck to have a MG you cant shoot on auto anywhere close.

tax, this may be a stupid question, but what do you do with a SMG that is different than a FA rifle?

I can shoot it at the indoor range that allows class 3 stuff, they dont allow rifles though.

The outdoor ranges dont allot class 3.

Posted: 9/18/2005 12:01:58 PM EDT

[#13]

Reisings are still somewhat inexpensive and are .45

Posted: 9/18/2005 12:04:26 PM EDT

[#14]

Would an LLC count?

Posted: 9/18/2005 12:05:03 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I would really like a FA rifle but since there is nowhere nearby I can shoot I gotta stick with SMGs, think of where you can shoot it first,

Would suck to have a MG you cant shoot on auto anywhere close.

tax, this may be a stupid question, but what do you do with a SMG that is different than a FA rifle?

I can shoot it at the indoor range that allows class 3 stuff, they dont allow rifles though.

The outdoor ranges dont allot class 3.

is it legal to shoot on private ground(outside the city limits), assuming it is legally owned?

Posted: 9/18/2005 12:05:52 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
tax, this may be a stupid question, but what do you do with a SMG that is different than a FA rifle?

Many of the ranges out here also prohibit FA fire. I solve this by simply driving out into the Nat'l Forrest or BLM land. Does tend to make the rangers a little jumpy tho'.

Strangely enough, if I am on the clock and in the blue monkey suit, I can blaze away all I want at a range, but apperantly as soon as I put on the civillian togs, I become a dangerous idiot.

Sheep

Posted: 9/18/2005 12:06:27 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
Would an LLC count?

Yes. Mine is an LLC.

Sheep

Posted: 9/18/2005 12:06:43 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
I would really like a FA rifle but since there is nowhere nearby I can shoot I gotta stick with SMGs, think of where you can shoot it first,

Would suck to have a MG you cant shoot on auto anywhere close.

I drive 3 hrs to shoot at an outdoor range and I'd drive 6 if need be. Course I only get them out 4-5 times a year.

Posted: 9/18/2005 12:08:29 PM EDT

[#19]

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is it legal to shoot on private ground(outside the city limits), assuming it is legally owned?

Yes. Might expect the Sheriff's Office to wander by and inquire as to what's up though. Be prepared to educate the deputies. Many of them will want to see your "machine gun permit". Explaining to them that no such thing exists can be daunting....and I'm a cop.

Sheep

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