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Quoted: Well, that's your opinion, and, you're welcome to it.
I'm sure I'm the first person in ARFCOM history to answer a bit glibly to a statment that has no more basis in fact than a fairy tale.
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Ever been to some of these places? Have you? I have. I've been to Pascagoula. It's claim to fame was we support operations with South American countries. NSCS Athens is about the size of a high school campus and can easily be absorbed into Newport RI. Ingleside and the minesweeps. Well, I can count the number of ops with minesweepers with one hand, actually, I don't need a hand at all. You see at 12 knts of cruising speed Ingleside a quite a distance away from the fleet concentration areas of Jax and Norfolk. San Diego? Forgetaboutit. They make occasional sorties, but not very often. It's too expensive. Oceana? Well, the 93 BRAC said Cecil Field was of greater military value, but they kept Oceana to support the F-14s. Now we don't have F-14s. The Navy didn't consider Cecil Field because it is no longer a DoD asset. So the Navy initially wanted to keep Oceana until they were able to plan a new master jet base. The leading locals were NC and GA.
I'm not saying you're WRONG, but, I can't believe, off the top of my head you have anything other than opinion in saying all these places are "Wastes"
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They are my opinion based on operations with the units in question and/or being stationed there. It's not just my opinion. It's the opinion of the USN staff in the five-sided wind tunnel that forwarded these recommendations to Rummy, who forwarded them UNCHANGED, to the BRAC.
Sorry my laughy face offended you. I'll pick a more sensitive one next time.
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It didn't offend me. However, you failed to communicate your position, and yet you attacked my position without basis. Now you defined your argument. That's fine. I rather enjoy debating these things. But a half-assed statement and a laughy face does not an argument make. It does indicate arrogance.
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Hmmm...I guess alomst every member of the board is arrogant then...
Which may be true.
I'm not privy to your high level knowledge, so, I'll bow to it.
I simply point to above...
Employing people and supporting infrastructure..
(I refuse to believe type "A" Fighter can't be supported at type
"B" facility.)
Is not inherently more "wasteful" than welfare, or countless other
programs that saw my wife's druggie freinds eat better than my family did when I was in the Army.
Nothing better than getting leftovers from coke-heads.
BRAC is a joke. A bad Joke.
Red River Closed? Yeah. Good Idea.
Shipyards closed? Yeah. Good idea.
It didn't happen, but, it was reccommended. Sounds like they are really thinking it through.
As for Groton...
No way we'll EVER see a superpower again..So, I guess, close that bad boy. Certainly won't need a facility like that.
Ya know, never mind.........We never learn, why should we start now?