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Posted: 8/21/2005 7:50:54 PM EDT

Time for backbone at the border
Sunday, August 21, 2005
By JOY E. STODGHILL
www.gulflive.com/opinion/mississippipress/index.ssf?/base/opinion/1124619369143700.xml
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

--Inscription on the Statue of Liberty

Our Statue of Liberty stands tall, cradling symbols of enlightenment and freedom in the torch and tablet and broken chains at her feet. For more than 100 years, she has beckoned to immigrants from foreign shores.

Most Americans can trace their roots to a ragged individual lifting tired eyes to view the statue for the first time and realizing freedom and a new start lay behind her.

I am a third generation American on my mother's father's side and can picture my great-grandfather's eager young eyes drinking in the sights of a country drastically different from his native Scotland.

America is a crucible of people from every nation. Part of what makes our country great is its diversity. I support people coming to America for a better life, as long as they come legally. But, it has become more apparent recently that a continued influx of newcomers is cause for alarm.

Illegal aliens flood over American borders daily, many from our southern neighbors. Numbers as high as 10,000 a day have been reported, and one total estimate of the number of aliens in the United States is 20 million. Many reports have been made along the border of break-ins occurring, with food and clothing being the only missing items.

Los Angeles police are not allowed to arrest illegal aliens who were deported and returned. As a result, a gang called "MS-13" has formed and is made up mostly of these protected aliens. They are called "ruthless" and have been labeled as a "top priority" for concern by the FBI.

Immigrant rights groups in Virginia protested a law whereby police can arrest aliens deported for felony convictions, but returned to this country.

Spineless police have chosen to listen to the radical groups and stated they will not be enforcing the new law. That opens up a new debate when our law enforcement officials pick and choose which laws they will enforce.

Operation Predator, begun in July 2003, has arrested 6,085 illegal aliens who are alleged pedophiles, child pornographers, human traffickers and sex tourists. I wonder how many thousands, or millions, of dollars have been expended for this operation -- an unnecessary effort if our borders were more secure.

Meanwhile, a group known as Project Minuteman was begun by Jim Gilchrist and Chris Simcox. Reportedly, this group patrols the borders and alerts the border patrol when they see aliens crossing U.S. borders. They have become a target for the ACLU, officials and the media and are often branded as "vigilantes."

I would venture to guess "guardians of American citizens" would be a better description, especially considering the sources of disapproval. Perhaps we need more Minutemen and fewer ACLU members, elected officials and -- dare I say it -- slanted, subjective national media.

Illegal aliens continue to be protected by radical groups and our own laws, while U.S. citizens suffer discrimination.

For instance, infants have been targeted for search, instead of suspected terrorists in airports. And, questionable travelers are often passed over simply for fear of "profiling."

In addition, our hospitals are eating millions of dollars worth of medical care every year from illegal immigrants who cannot pay their bills and have no insurance. And yet, thanks to laws of the land, they cannot be turned away and denied treatment. Remember that next time you pay a hospital bill.

I have read some reports from the opposite end of the spectrum, which claim America will see blood shed within the next year by Americans concerned with the lack of action by the government. I hope things do not get to that point, and I really do not think they will. But, someone has to take control of the situation to stop the bloodshed occurring now.

President Bush has said immigration reform will be near the top of his list when Congress returns to session after the Labor Day holiday. Great. But will he really take the reform issue as far as it needs to go? It will be a true test of White House and Capitol Hill will.

After reducing the promised number of 2,000 new Border Patrol agents to 1,000, the congressional record is not promising.

Instead of fretting over political correctness or riling up a radical group with a "cause," the government needs to concentrate on how to best protect its citizens, especially in light of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Posted: 8/21/2005 7:55:33 PM EDT

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Los Angeles police are not allowed to arrest illegal aliens who were deported and returned. As a result, a gang called "MS-13" has formed and is made up mostly of these protected aliens. They are called "ruthless" and have been labeled as a "top priority" for concern by the FBI.

Gee, kinda reminds me of the Able Danger situation, lets make the same mistake again

Posted: 8/21/2005 9:14:30 PM EDT

[#2]

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

That was just brillient advertising back when most of north america was not... colonized... and a nation could kill anyone who got in their way. Honestly, who wants the unwashed masses? I'll take the hygenic healthy smart ones.

So I'm a cynic.

Posted: 8/21/2005 9:23:24 PM EDT

[#3]

When they refused to enforce immigration law
they made a mockery of all the legal immigrants
that had to prove health, financial responsibility
and that they had no criminal records

Its too bad treason has been removed from the dictionary

Posted: 8/21/2005 9:25:45 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

That was just brillient advertising back when most of north america was not... colonized... and a nation could kill anyone who got in their way. Honestly, who wants the unwashed masses? I'll take the hygenic healthy smart ones.

So I'm a cynic.

+1

So what's the situation here in the Lone Star? Are we gonna go on lockdown soon or no?

Posted: 8/21/2005 9:39:33 PM EDT

[#5]

You guys need to give up this dream. Both parties are courting the Hispanic vote. No lockdown will ever happen.

Posted: 8/21/2005 9:39:48 PM EDT

[#6]

So what's the situation here in the Lone Star? Are we gonna go on lockdown soon or no?

That would require Rick Perry to break up with his boyfriend Jorge

Posted: 8/21/2005 10:06:56 PM EDT

[#7]

its time for texas to secede, go to war w/ mexico, prove our point for the second time, re-write the texas constitution concerning immigration, then we can re-join the union after that (if we want to)

Posted: 8/21/2005 10:13:53 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
its time for texas to secede, go to war w/ mexico, prove our point for the second time, re-write the texas constitution concerning immigration, then we can re-join the union after that (if we want to)

Cool I'm in. TX can still secede without going to war with the US right?

Posted: 8/21/2005 10:14:21 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
its time for texas to secede, go to war w/ mexico, prove our point for the second time, re-write the texas constitution concerning immigration, then we can re-join the union after that (if we want to)

We could dramatically increase the size of Texas

Posted: 8/21/2005 10:18:27 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
You guys need to give up this dream. Both parties are courting the Hispanic vote. No lockdown will ever happen.

BS. In TX, most of the hispanic vote is blue. Check out the distribution maps. Most of "The Valley" (i.e. pretty much anything south of san antonio and possessing a high concentration of hispanics) is blue.

Posted: 8/21/2005 10:29:00 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
Los Angeles police are not allowed to arrest illegal aliens who were deported and returned. As a result, a gang called "MS-13" has formed and is made up mostly of these protected aliens. They are called "ruthless" and have been labeled as a "top priority" for concern by the FBI.

Gee, kinda reminds me of the Able Danger situation, lets make the same mistake again

Exactly and this one will probably be worse than 9-11

Posted: 8/21/2005 10:32:28 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
its time for texas to secede, go to war w/ mexico, prove our point for the second time, re-write the texas constitution concerning immigration, then we can re-join the union after that (if we want to)

Hmm, Nice.... Your post smacks of treason..... Congrats, you probably made the "No fly list" as you KNOW the feds read your post. Jeeze... A little caution here guys...

Posted: 8/21/2005 10:33:53 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Quoted:
You guys need to give up this dream. Both parties are courting the Hispanic vote. No lockdown will ever happen.

BS. In TX, most of the hispanic vote is blue. Check out the distribution maps. Most of "The Valley" (i.e. pretty much anything south of san antonio and possessing a high concentration of hispanics) is blue.

Looks like the border towns are the only strong liberal areas

crookedtimber.org/2004/11/04/red-counties-blue-counties-and-occupied-counties

Posted: 8/21/2005 10:47:42 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Quoted:
its time for texas to secede, go to war w/ mexico, prove our point for the second time, re-write the texas constitution concerning immigration, then we can re-join the union after that (if we want to)

Hmm, Nice.... Your post smacks of treason..... Congrats, you probably made the "No fly list" as you KNOW the feds read your post. Jeeze... A little caution here guys...

If I understand correctly, Texas has the legal right
to secede, here is a Texas website that discusses it

www.tsl.state.tx.us/ref/abouttx/annexation/

Posted: 8/21/2005 11:16:58 PM EDT

[#15]

Well, thats a trick question. All states have the right to secede.

However, the myth you're referring to is that Texas has some special arrangement that will allow it to secede. This grew out of the final compromise between the Dems and Repubs battle over whether or not to admit another slave state. Texas was finally granted statehood in 1845, western Texas was drawn off and made a territory of the US (New Mexico), and Texas was given the option of later breaking up into 5 separate states if it wanted to.

This kind of pissed off the Mexicans who refused to recognize their own treaty recognizing the Republic of Texas. Then they really got pissed when the President ordered Taylor to Corpus Christi, knowing full well the Mexicans would view it as an invasion. Too bad.

Posted: 8/21/2005 11:44:41 PM EDT

[#16]

Yeah, that website didn't discuss it enough
I'll look around some more when I get time

Posted: 8/22/2005 1:34:21 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
You guys need to give up this dream. Both parties are courting the Hispanic vote. No lockdown will ever happen.

BS. In TX, most of the hispanic vote is blue. Check out the distribution maps. Most of "The Valley" (i.e. pretty much anything south of san antonio and possessing a high concentration of hispanics) is blue.

Looks like the border towns are the only strong liberal areas
crookedtimber.org/2004/11/04/red-counties-blue-counties-and-occupied-counties

Yessir, the rest is red. Hell we don't need no hispanic vote.

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