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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:44:07 AM EDT
If you were offered an opportunity to tag along with a Marine or Army Company in Iraq for a couple of weeks, knowing that you may be injured or die, would you?  For safety and pc reasons, you wouldn't be allowed to participate directly in combat (if combat errupted, you would be moved back to the rear, or wait in an APC or other armored vehicle until it was over), but they would allow you to carry your CCW just in case you had to defend yourself.  

Knowing all of the risks, I would.  
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 7:44:59 AM EDT
[#1]
No.

Link Posted: 3/14/2005 7:46:03 AM EDT
[#2]
Where do i sign up?


Can I CCW an M4?

Link Posted: 3/14/2005 7:46:47 AM EDT
[#3]
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 7:49:17 AM EDT
[#4]
Your CCW isn't going to be of any help when the enemy insurgents hits you with an IUD. You might as well leave your pistol at home. The insurgents even took out an M1A Abrams tank.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 7:49:55 AM EDT
[#5]
I'd pay to go.....
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 7:50:23 AM EDT
[#6]
Yes.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 7:51:28 AM EDT
[#7]
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 7:51:56 AM EDT
[#8]
If I could get the time off, and those Marine's would have me...sure.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 7:52:12 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Your CCW isn't going to be of any help when the enemy insurgents hits you with an IUD. You might as well leave your pistol at home. The insurgents even took out an M1A Abrams tank.



IUD = Intrauterine Device = Birth Control
IED = Improvised Explosive Device
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 7:54:15 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Your CCW isn't going to be of any help when the enemy insurgents hits you with an IUD.



 I am just picturing the terrorists throwing an IUD at a GI...  "Take that infidel!  Now your wife will not have children!"
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 7:55:16 AM EDT
[#11]
I'd rather tag along with the SEALs or DELTA
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 7:56:09 AM EDT
[#12]
Yep!
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 7:56:25 AM EDT
[#13]
I'd do it on two conditions.  I would be 20 years younger so I wouldn't hinder the squad and if the shit erupted, I would be allowed to carry my weight.  
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 7:56:30 AM EDT
[#14]
I think IUD is just a -tiny- bit different from IED. Mind you, if the enemy suddenly started attacking me with IUDs, I'd be very worried.

IEDs are rather over-rated, especially against tanks.

"Red 1, we've got a report of an IED at grid.. whatever"

Our SOP was to drive to the grid... Look it over with the tank's optics a bit. If we couldn't see anything, we'd drive up and down a few times, see if anything blew up. (Including running a tread over the soft shoulder). If that didn't do anything, then it was time to dismount and have a look on foot.

NTM
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:02:05 AM EDT
[#15]
Yep
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:02:05 AM EDT
[#16]
only if I could bring booze with me
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:04:22 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
Your CCW isn't going to be of any help when the enemy insurgents hits you with an IUD.



Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:11:25 AM EDT
[#18]
Why don't you just enlist instead of dwelling on the martial fantasies of a 12 year old?
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:20:26 AM EDT
[#19]
I never heard of any of the M1A1's getting taken out with IEDs, but I wouldn't sit in the APC if I were you. RPGs do a number on those things.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:25:44 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Your CCW isn't going to be of any help when the enemy insurgents hits you with an IUD.



Those fiends!!!!!!!!

"NOOOOOOO!  It doesn't go in there!!!!!!!!!!"
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:29:55 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
If you were offered an opportunity to tag along with a Marine or Army Company in Iraq for a couple of weeks, knowing that you may be injured or die, would you?  For safety and pc reasons, you wouldn't be allowed to participate directly in combat (if combat errupted, you would be moved back to the rear, or wait in an APC or other armored vehicle until it was over), but they would allow you to carry your CCW just in case you had to defend yourself.  

Knowing all of the risks, I would.  



I think I might, if they let me carry my OWN Kimber .45 and AR15.

HH
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:41:09 AM EDT
[#22]
One of my coworkers did, first Gulf War, has the pictures and the letter from a General to prove it. (NBC Recon, we're DOD employees and he's the one that developed their training for the particular system, they asked him to go since there werent enough trained crewmen available)

I'd do it in a heartbeat if offered the chance.

Kharn
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:42:29 AM EDT
[#23]
HELL YES
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:43:42 AM EDT
[#24]
HELL YES.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:43:46 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
I'd rather tag along with the SEALs or DELTA




that would be a lot more fun I'm sure, but I would never be able to keep up
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:55:01 AM EDT
[#26]
Hell Yes I would!      As long as I could arm myself for self defense purposes if need be.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:58:03 AM EDT
[#27]
You do realize that this board has a unholy assload of vets on it right?  Knowing that, what's with the assinine question?
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:59:41 AM EDT
[#28]
They've knocked out a couple of M1s with IEDs, including at least one K-kill that blew the turret twenty yards from the hull. That was a rare one though.

Israelis have had similar problems with two or three of their Merkavas getting blasted.

NTM
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 9:03:49 AM EDT
[#29]
uhh, isn't there a mechanism for that? Oh yeah, it's called "enlisting"  
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 9:04:20 AM EDT
[#30]

Where do i sign up?


Can I CCW an M4?





+1, But I'd want one of the crotch protector flak jacket thingies.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 9:07:18 AM EDT
[#31]
Yes, but I wouldn't want to be holed up in an APC until things calmed down. I wouldn't want to be in that can when an RPG came knocking.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 9:11:52 AM EDT
[#32]
Yes.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 9:38:27 AM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
I never heard of any of the M1A1's getting taken out with IEDs, but I wouldn't sit in the APC if I were you. RPGs do a number on those things.



Here you go... To get an impression of distance travelled, in the bottom picture you can just see the corner of the bustle rack in the bottom right corner.




NTM
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 9:56:20 AM EDT
[#34]
Hell ya.  


Link Posted: 3/14/2005 10:39:15 AM EDT
[#35]

Would you do a "ride along" with a Marine/Army Company in Iraq?    


Hell, yeah!

But I'm too old for that shit. I sure wouldn't want to jeopardize their safety over my fat ass.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 10:41:49 AM EDT
[#36]
The CCW pistol would be for yourself. If you have to use it, you are FUCKED.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 10:49:17 AM EDT
[#37]
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 12:59:36 PM EDT
[#38]
I'd do it but my wife might not let me....
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 1:14:49 PM EDT
[#39]
I suppose you could call spending 3 months in Iraq as an embedded technical support contractor a "ride along":



The biggest suckage about it was 'no official carrying of a weapon'.  This meant that sometimes on convoys I had an M4, and sometimes they gave me an M-249.  Soldiers get pissed when you break their weapon down to check cleaning and give it a function check before you load it.

Next trip I am angling for an "officially-issued" M4.  My contract states that I can be issued weapons and ammunition for "defensive purposes" only.  Besides I hate cleaning the SAW.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 1:52:50 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Your CCW isn't going to be of any help when the enemy insurgents hits you with an IUD. You might as well leave your pistol at home. The insurgents even took out an M1A Abrams tank.



IUD = Intrauterine Device = Birth Control
IED = Improvised Explosive Device




Either way... you are fucked!!!
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 1:56:16 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
HELL YES.



I think this says it all.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 1:59:17 PM EDT
[#42]
Damn right I would. Last war I had my chance but I got stuck stateside.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 1:59:50 PM EDT
[#43]
I've already played on the two-way range, but be my guest. If I never have another exciting day, I've already had a few too many.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 2:33:26 PM EDT
[#44]
Hell yeah, I ain't had my chance yet.  It isn't a disgrace to admit that you wish you had when you were younger, or that you weren't allowed to due to eyesight, etc.

I'd go if I could carry my own weapon.  I definitely would not want to be a burden on the rest of the troops.

Link Posted: 3/14/2005 3:03:45 PM EDT
[#45]
Your are kidding, right?  
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 3:06:31 PM EDT
[#46]
YES
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 3:11:50 PM EDT
[#47]
I would go in a heart beat. It's not fair that the military gets to have all the fun.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 3:20:55 PM EDT
[#48]
I am most likely going to go over in a year anyways, but if given the opportunity that you have provided the answer is HELL NO! I am going over because it is my obligation. I would not volunteer to go over to a dangerous land and possibly get killed.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 3:22:31 PM EDT
[#49]
Yes please.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 3:27:07 PM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:

Would you do a "ride along" with a Marine/Army Company in Iraq?    


Hell, yeah!

But I'm too old for that shit. I sure wouldn't want to jeopardize their safety over my fat ass.



Yup, what Bumblebee_Bob said.
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