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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:08:31 PM EDT
I have told you guys the story of my friend that married this woman who basically had her first son taken away from her and given to her first husband by the state. (17 counts of child abuse) Well, my friend meets this girl, dates her and then gets the bright idea to marry her. They have 2 kids together and he works his ass off as she stays home and refuses to work
EVEN THOUGH She has a court order to pay child support EVEN THOUGH She has a court order to supply FIRST child with health insurance EVEN THOUGH her husband has to work 80 hours a week to pay for her wants... a) new vehicle b) luxury apartment So, HER divorce lawyer is owed $15,000. She cant pay. So now because California is a community property state, HE is served papers to appear and pay HER bill. They go to court and guess what? The court orders a levy on his account and to pay the balance of the 15,000 PLUS charge a $4.09 A DAY penalty/interest fee on top of that. My friend asks the judge WITH HIS WIFE THERE "If my wife and I were to get divorced, do I still have to pay?" Judge says "YES!" Now this is not the end, you see, the state of CA is paying her ex child support and was garnishing her wages when she worked. Now she is not working but they are still paying the bill every month and sending them a bill... I think it is up to 9,000 from what he told me. NY State is suing because she has not held up to her divorce agreement to supply her son with health insurance. My friend now says that he just wants to check out. I asked "How, leave her?" he said "Either that or kill myself" NOW THERE IS A TOPIC YOU DONT FUCK AROUND WITH ME = SUICIDE. I told him, "Here is the deal, i need to know how serious are you about suicide?" He said "I'm just blabbering, you know I wouldnt do that" (He knows its a sensetive topic for my best friend killed himself) I then said "Then dont say it motherfucker. Next time you do, there WILL be a call to the local PD and I dont give a shit if that means the end of our friendship" Ugh...  |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:11:46 PM EDT
[#1]
He shouldn't kill himself, he doesn't deserve it.
He should kill his "wife." |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:12:48 PM EDT
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Think of how many "escorts" he could have bought with that money! He wouldn't need her at all!
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:13:25 PM EDT
[#3]
WHy? SHe wasn't the dumbass that married herself. SGatr15 |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:15:32 PM EDT
[#4]
Thats true.
I have no idea what he should do. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:21:11 PM EDT
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Divorce her and declare bankruptcy. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:26:30 PM EDT
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You know, I think that is the BEST suggestion TO DATE!!!!! Only problem is that he doesnt have the onions to do it. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:26:40 PM EDT
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um, really he just needs to think about how much better off he is than her.
This won't last forever. Eventually he'll get all this shit squared away. But she, on the other hand, will still be a loser who can't make her own way in life. W/o him she will whither and die. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:29:05 PM EDT
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Or find a new sucker... I have to admit, she sells a good show. When I first met her I thought she was really a nice girl and had her shit together... even told me she was a Conservative. EVERYONE thought she was OK. ANOTHER point to ponder... All of his friends bailed as well.... I am the last of them. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:29:56 PM EDT
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Dispose of all assets immediately (get his friends to "buy" his stuff); Use cash for disposition of assets for basic expenses, buy home in Canada or gun friendly South American country (Peru is pretty good); quit job; come back to USA in about 8 years. The time will go buy quickly.
Tell him to treat this whole mess like a non-leathal case of cancer, which will require him to make major changes in his life... but in time things will be happy again. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:30:55 PM EDT
[#10]
she probably poisoned all his friends against him.
my sister has an ex like that. So he just needs to make sure anybody who goes out with her knows what a 4 star bitch she is. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:36:39 PM EDT
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Not an issue. He has NO guns. This I have to give him credit for. I asked him years ago, why he never bought a gun. he said "With my anger problems... not a good idea" Hey, you have to admit that when a person knows he flies off the deep end that he shouldnt own a firearm, that is pretty smart. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:40:13 PM EDT
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I already appreciate my wife. Big time.
Your friend is a class A schmuck. He had to learn the lesson the hard way, and he is. No sympthy here. The biggest decision we ever make is in choosing a mate and some people make bad decisions. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:52:26 PM EDT
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Too bad child support is not dischargeable in bankruptcy. Not quite sure how it work in his case though--if they were divorced--since he's not the primary obligor. The only real answer to this is "lawyer up." |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:56:52 PM EDT
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Well as far as I can see AT THIS POINT he will be responsible for the lawyer case that he lost today AND child support for HIS 2 kids. .... Once again ... AT THIS POINT! If he lets it go to where NY and CA sue him for HER responsiblities, then he is triple fucked. (or is it quadripled fucked) Either way, He is in a shit hole for AT LEAST the next 17 years, unless he plugs it in her 'man-mit' and has another kid. Then the 18 year obligation resets itself. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:57:58 PM EDT
[#15]
He has 2 kids with her. THEY ARE F*cked!!
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:59:12 PM EDT
[#16]
California is a state run by assholes. Therefore, the court system is designed to work best for other assholes.
He could always join the foreign legion. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:59:51 PM EDT
[#17]
well I uess thats the fuckin he gets for the fuckin he got
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:09:24 PM EDT
[#18]
Wow. Tell him to keep his sense of hope by religiously documenting her committment avoiding behavior. Get a good lawyer to do a combination divorce/custody case and file bankruptcy. This will give him a fresh start personally, emotionally, and financially. It MIGHT even dump all the back support issues back in her lap where it belongs!
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:16:56 PM EDT
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The back support right now is a "HER" issue... but not for long unless he nips this shit in the bud. And you cannot declare child support on a BK as far as I know. OH and to top it all off... he has been working with his head up his ass that his #1 major account has stopped sending him work because of him screwing up... I see the future and it just does not look good for him.... Not at all. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:17:48 PM EDT
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many a truth is told in jest.
take him seriously on his suicide threat. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:21:06 PM EDT
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I agree... I dont know if you guys saw my other post where his wife keeps asking him if he is making his life insurance payments. I dont think L.I. pays on suicide do they? then he would be screwing over his kids two fold... NO dad and NO money. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:22:21 PM EDT
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That's what he gets for jumping into a relationship with a woman who has serious baggage! He seems like a good guy, but he bought into her misery when he married her.
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:23:36 PM EDT
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I got this one. He needs to: Grow a great big ZAPATA mustache. Get some instant tan. Buy one of those mexican sombreros. Trade all of his money into pesos. Fake his own death. Dark up with the tan stuff. Put on the hat. (the mustache will have grown in by then) And it's off to mexico he goes. He becomes a towel boy working at an exclusive seaside resort. Oiling up all of those hot, tight, young white girl tourists on a daily basis. Relaxing on the beach in the off time. Cheap drinks. All of the Mexican food he can eat. (I love mexican food, don't you?) Living the life of Reilly, ..... er paucho that is. Hey, ..... it may seem like a stupid plan, .... but it worked for me. Zen "This is my sombrero, there are many like it, but this one is mine" |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:23:54 PM EDT
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I don't often advocate such things, but as he's not a gun lover I can see him starting to think the song "Oh Canada" has a nice ring to it.
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:27:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:30:37 PM EDT
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Well, yeah. I thought that went without saying. They're his blood after all. Might have to live under the radar in Canada (she might try for a kidnapping charge just to spite him) so a non extradition country may be a wiser choice. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:32:08 PM EDT
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Life insurance will usually pay for a suicide, there is a mandatory 2 year period in most states that it will be contestable (i.e. death benefit not paid) if you off yourself within that 2 year period. Check the suicide clause in your policy. Just from what I know, I don't condone suicide. Please contact a lawyer now regarding these issues. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:39:07 PM EDT
[#28]
its easy.
He should do the following: Fake his death by running his car into a canal or off a bridge. Leave all the windows down. Leave one shoe in the car. With $5,000, purchase a new identity, it can be done. Start new life in a state far away. this will work better if he has never been finger printed. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:56:28 PM EDT
[#29]
Guys remember they have two kids together
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:58:59 PM EDT
[#30]
Ok, new plan. He buys three sombreros, a big one and two little ones and ............ Zen "This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine" |
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Posted: 10/30/2004 12:45:02 AM EDT
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This thread is worthless without pics..
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Posted: 10/30/2004 12:45:51 AM EDT
[#32]
 Why?
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Posted: 10/30/2004 12:48:57 AM EDT
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Why anyone this day and age gets married without a pre-nup is beyond me.
The guys who want a pre-nup but don't demand one are the same pussies here in this board that have to ask their wife to buy a new gun or go out shooting with the guys. Damn pathetic! |
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Posted: 10/30/2004 1:31:41 AM EDT
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$15,000??
Hell, for $5,000.00, your friend and I can come to an...arrangement...of sorts... 
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Posted: 10/30/2004 1:45:16 AM EDT
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legion etranger
2e REP |
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Posted: 10/30/2004 2:13:59 AM EDT
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No most life insurance policies do not payout unless one can truely make it look like an accident. Around here, when someone shoots themself they put their cleaning gear out first and then do it. It gets ruled an accident while cleaning. |
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Posted: 10/30/2004 2:42:11 AM EDT
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now thats one guy that needs a SERIOUS DOSAGE of Leykis 101, 97.1fm 3-8pm M-F
"the female commodity is the one item that you continue to pay for even after you no longer own it" he needs to LAWYER UP then DIVORCE her, before she gets sued again, maybe he can escape any future lawsuits. then get full custody of the kids, and if he owns his own home maybe he can take out some equity or get a bank loan to pay off the other BS and be done with it ASAP. just when you think your life sucks ....... you find someone worse off
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Posted: 10/30/2004 3:04:26 AM EDT
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This entire mess started because he married a woman who lost her kids. She had 17 counts of child abuse. Knowing that, he married her and had 2 more. I don't want to sound unsympathetic, but he made his own problems. Any parent with 17 counts of child abuse needs to be in jail. Why in the world he thought she would suddenly change is anybody's guess. His only good options are most likely better off not posted here.
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Posted: 10/30/2004 4:15:59 AM EDT
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Have them move to a non-community property state....Appeal the Cali court decision in their new state and chances are VERY good they will be reversed...
Then have them file for divorce and live as "domestic partners" like the gays do if they want to stay together... He can still provide for his kids, her and they can live happily ever after..... |
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Posted: 10/30/2004 4:23:02 AM EDT
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Problem is Bankruptcy will not discharge court ordered debts. Depending on how good a friend he is to you, you might think about helping him out financially, better then the extreme stuff being discussed here, it is only money after all. |
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Posted: 10/30/2004 6:29:34 AM EDT
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Divorce her and declare bankruptcy. You know, I think that is the BEST suggestion TO DATE!!!!! Only problem is that he doesnt have the onions to do it. DrFrige's wife here.. IF he was to do that...there are 2 problems... 1 is he already declared bankruptcy 2 is child support orders can not be put on a bankruptcy and I believe his case for the child support is coming up real soon so, he would be able to divorce her in time.... He's an idiot She is a psycho |
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Posted: 10/30/2004 6:36:26 AM EDT
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Bankruptcy doesn't clear debt owed by child support. My wifes ex tried that. You go to a Fed Court for your bankruptcy hearing. They will clearly state that it does not clear you of child support rearage. You will have to pay it.
The judge saying he owes her child support is kinda fishy sounding. I would get that cleared up by lawyer before dismissing that option. |
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Posted: 10/30/2004 9:03:46 AM EDT
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Unless the Life Ins. industry has changed things in the last 15 yrs.
Life Insurance will pay after a 2-3yr exclusion rule expires. Depends upon the company. If those are your friends kids, TOUGH LUCK! He should pay whatever it takes to support them. Why should we pay for his foolishness. I don't want to hear 10yrs form now a sob story about a some poor kid who killed a Liquor store owner for $300 because his father didn't pay child support. |
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Posted: 10/30/2004 9:14:26 AM EDT
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(Iron Maiden)-"Run to the hills..........Run for your life!"
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Posted: 10/30/2004 9:16:11 AM EDT
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You are in NY... You as taxpayers and WE in CA are as well. Socialist states getting involved by paying the bill and they will TRY to collect later. They are now even threatening jail for her if she doesnt pay. He said that he WANTS to see her go to jail but, I know him. He will bail her out at the last second and so the saga continues. Yes, he knew what he was getting into. He even told me when they met that she like to tell 'stories'... "NO DUDE! SHE LIES!" big difference... HUGE difference. Telling stories is "I went to the store and saw a Ferrari" a LIE is "I own a Ferrari" when she doesnt. I took him shooting one day. While on the phone with him he asked me "Is there anything I should bring?" I said "no" THEN in the backround I hear her saying "Are you going to take our gun?" He then says "What are you talking about? You are losing it... we dont own a gun remember?" This is how bad it is.
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Posted: 10/30/2004 9:25:04 AM EDT
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Yep, thanks to the liberal bench appointed over years by liberal Presidents, decisions like this will be made. They like to spread blame around to anyone but those that deserve it.
Vote for GWB. |
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Posted: 10/30/2004 10:42:16 AM EDT
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First, we all make mistakes. So I kinda understand him getting married. However, when stuff like this happens and your true friends show you the truth and you still refuse to do what's best, your a dumbass. If he won't divorce her before her child support becomes his issue then I say screw him. He's made his bed and now he has to sleep in it.
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Posted: 10/31/2004 1:59:06 AM EDT
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Taiwan is very foreigner-friendly. If he can stand teaching English to kids, he can make a decent buck. If he has an engineering or tech-industry marketing background, likewise, he can make a decent buck.
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Posted: 10/31/2004 2:27:34 AM EDT
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Ahh dude learn to friggen READ. She had a kid in a previous marriage, The kid was awarded to that man after they divorced. She failed to pay child support to CA for the child that is with her ex-husband. Drfridge's buddy married her and has since had 2 kids. Now CA is going after HIM for the money SHE owes the state of CA for the child support they paid out to her ex. |
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Posted: 10/31/2004 3:51:07 AM EDT
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Stay and fight the bitch, she has already lost once and is paying child support, always avoid any woman who doesnt have custody of her own children, something is fucked up right there. Contact the ex he may be an excellent witness to help prove she doesnt need kids being she is a fucking loon
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