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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:22:01 PM EDT
I'm sort of partial to the 1911, a Kimber to be specific. I like the .45 ACP and the feel and history of the 1911 however I don't like the reduced magazine capacity.
I'm also willing to consider a .40 or 10mm of some type but I'm not really sure what's out there. If I went this route I would want something with a high capacity magazine, reliability, and ease of maintenance. I know for sure I don’t want a Glock, a revolver of any kind, and I'm 99% sure I don't want to mess with the 9mm. Cost of ammo is somewhat of a concern but I'm set up now with a ton of .45 brass and some .45 dies so I can load whatever. Any ideas?  |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:25:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:26:34 PM EDT
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+1. As for reduced magazine capacity...you can always buy extra magazines. |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:27:05 PM EDT
[#3]
don't get a 1911.
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:27:10 PM EDT
[#4]
Glock would be my first choice.
Kimber second Third chioce in Sig 226 in 40 cal S&W 
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:27:14 PM EDT
[#5]
Get Both!
 ETA Seriously, I think the perfect beginners pistol is either a 22 revolver or a CZ-75 |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:27:35 PM EDT
[#6]
Start with a .22 revolver. Proper handgun control is ALOT harder to learn then rifle control IMHO.
Sgatr15 |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:29:20 PM EDT
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Yeah, as of now I'm leaning towards a 1911. The reduced mag capacity is of little importance but still a factor.
I would also give consideration to a SIG or sometime of the like. I'm looking at $5-600 new or used for just the pistol. Mags and ammo extra... |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:34:27 PM EDT
[#8]
 Desert Eagle 50AE?
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:35:28 PM EDT
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If I were you, I would get the 1911 (a Kimber if you can swing it), and PRACTICE!!!! You don't need 15 rounds, no matter what some will tell you. Being able to put your rounds on target is a helluva lot more important than how many rounds you have. Just my 2 cents, and worth every penny!
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:36:39 PM EDT
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It really depends on what you intend to do with the handgun.
Are you going to carry it for personal protection? Are you just going to target shoot? Hunt? Home defense? I agree that the .40 and .45 give better one shot stops than the 9mm, but the 9mm does very well. Anyone who wants to get shot with a 9mm or even a .380, .32, .25acp or a .22. raise your hand! You say reduced magazine capacity of the .45, but 7 or 8 rounds is more than enough for most shootings which involve 1-5 rounds total from both sides. (sure it is nice to have 30-46 rounds immediately at your disposal, but 7 or 8 will probably do you fine. A hit with a .22 is better than a miss with a .45 |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:36:57 PM EDT
[#11]
GLOCK!!
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:37:03 PM EDT
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+1 Kimbers. |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:38:22 PM EDT
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My first handgun was a Sig P226... it was the right gun and is the best combat handgun in the world.
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:39:51 PM EDT
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I should clarify some more...
I plan on using it for targets/home defense/do all handgun... Agreed on the mag capacity, doesn't matter, only lead on target does. |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:40:10 PM EDT
[#15]
Revolver, .357.
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:41:39 PM EDT
[#16]
glock 22 or 23 depending on what fits your hand better .40 cal goodness and a reliable lightweight package. and bigger mags to boot |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:42:27 PM EDT
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Best suggestion is to goto a range that rents handguns and try a bunch out and see how they feel in your hand. Shoot the ones that feel good, then go back and look at the ones you didn't like again. If they feel better, try them (I have a gun that has grown on me alot) too. Pick the one you shot the best with.
Dont bother with this 'buy a XXXXXX' shit. Find one that fits YOU. |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:44:53 PM EDT
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SIG P220 and/or 1911 (I am partial to S&W 1911 for the money)...
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:46:15 PM EDT
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+1 |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:46:38 PM EDT
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NO handgun collection is complete without a 1911, so it's a good place to start.
HOWEVER......... I recently shot a Sig P220 in .45 and now I GOTTA HAVE ONE. (and I'd thought my handgun collection was complete) Double action without spending money on Canadian Check one out if you have the chance. BTW, I own a Sig in .40 and it's a damn fine piece of machinery. |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:48:30 PM EDT
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I don't think you have any options other than a 1911. BTW... You have obviously let someone else's misinformation prejudice you against some of the most reliable, controlable and effective firearms available to you. Since this is your first pistol, you should be getting a .38 revolver, or if you MUST have a "tactical pistol" a Glock 17 would be an excellent, reliable pistol right within your price range. But you have your mind made up. You should at least look into a Springfield Armory Milspec 1911. If capacity is an issue you can buy Kimber 8 round mags. |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:49:13 PM EDT
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CDNN has a blow out on SIGS right now a Police Turn in 399 $ for the P-220
they are like new Act fast this will not last long. |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:53:21 PM EDT
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CZ 97 in .45 ACP. 10 rounds of .45 will do ya just fine, and these guns are pretty durn nice.
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Posted: 10/12/2004 12:56:49 PM EDT
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I would recommend getting a .22cal pistol in addition to any large caliber one (personal experience). A .22 is cheaper to shoot and easier to learn with. When you get good with the .22 you can have a lot more fun with larger calibers.
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:00:01 PM EDT
[#25]
Fixed your quote. OBVIOUS error. Second choice would be the CZ75BD. |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:00:12 PM EDT
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If you have considerable experience with handguns, but just don't own one, then go with the 1911, or a Hi-Power. If you're just getting into handuns, a Smith .357, and start with some .38 loads. BTW, Practice, practice, practice. A handgun is nothing like a long gun.
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:01:47 PM EDT
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Baretta 92 - well balanced, high capacity, well made - and most importantly - I have never (after approx. 3000 rounds) had a jam. The design makes it very difficult to jam.
There are a lot of nice guns out there - don't rush. Go to a few gun shows and touch them all. So long as you stay with a good brand, most of it boils down to feel, size and looks. |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:02:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:02:57 PM EDT
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I was glad to read this as I was wondering if you actually knew anything about guns, or if you were just a troll |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:04:08 PM EDT
[#30]
Hmm, I'll give some thought to picking up a .22 pistol. It would only make sense. I've fired a couple handguns before, and my parents own a cheap 1911 but I found it somewhat difficult to learn handgun skills right off with a .45. Recoil and a shitty trigger were not doing me much good.
Alright, who makes a good .22 semi-auto?  |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:05:48 PM EDT
[#31]
Browning, Beretta, S&W
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:06:00 PM EDT
[#32]
My first choice:
 My second choice:  My third choice and latest aquisition:  The top one is my daily carry weapon. BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:07:23 PM EDT
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Ruger Mark II. BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:08:00 PM EDT
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Kimber .22 LR is a good one also! BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:08:13 PM EDT
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I have a Ruger MKII target, and my brother has a Ruger Single Six (revolver). The MKII takes a little practice to get used to field stripping, but it's a great gun. I would recommend checking into revolvers, I used to think semi-autos were the only way to go in pistols, but revolvers can be a lot of fun to shoot.
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:08:26 PM EDT
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Yup, I forgot them 
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:09:37 PM EDT
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For $600, you can GET BOTH a .22 and a .40 with the CZ 75 BD and a Kadet coversion kit. |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:10:41 PM EDT
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Small cartridge revolver if you are inexperienced. 1911 if you are. Planerench out.
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:11:40 PM EDT
[#39]
Kimber also makes a .22 LR conversion for 1911's that fit on most standard 1911 frames. |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:13:44 PM EDT
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The man said $5-600. NOT over a grand. (for a new .40 . / .45 and a 22 rf) |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:23:00 PM EDT
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A good 1911 or Glock would be my suggestion.
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:36:39 PM EDT
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go with a 1911 chambered in .40 then
or go with one of the many varieties of hi cap 1911. www.m1911.org for tons of info, but their boards aren't as good as ar15's |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 1:38:27 PM EDT
[#43]
1911 ALL THE WAY(kimber or colt)
if not, opt for a SIG |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 2:10:21 PM EDT
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+1 or a S&W .357mag revolver, pop gun (.38 special) to flame thrower (.357 mag) ETA: no matter what you decide on go shoot it first, borrow or rent. I wanted a Sig P229 until I shot it. |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 2:19:59 PM EDT
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Duh...
.45 ACP 45 auto is a breeze to reload and is cheap to reload. Since you already have the brass & dies, you're already halfway there. As for your problem with reduced magazine capacity, the .45 ACP DOESN'T NEED 15 ROUNDS to do the job. Stick with the legend...M1911 .45 ACP. |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 2:36:04 PM EDT
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I'm with Sarge on this one. I started my gun hobby with a large caliber, compact semi-auto pistol. For me, that was a big mistake. I developed a recoil flinch that took me a long time to overcome. My recommendation would be to start with something that will allow you to concentrate on sight picture and trigger discipline and not muzzle blast or the latest in handgun fashion. |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 2:38:33 PM EDT
[#47]
Springfield XD
or 1911 |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 2:49:34 PM EDT
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Para Ordnance has a couple of models in the $600 price range
Warthog 10+1 SSP 7+1 I have a SSP and it shoots very well. I plan to get a warthog soon. The only problem is the magazines. You'll want to replace the standard mags with some quality ones. |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 2:54:27 PM EDT
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 Should be able to find one of these for around $400. Cheap to shoot No recoil = no flinch 10 rounds no magazines to load Should last long enough to give to your grandchildren someday. |
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Posted: 10/12/2004 3:22:08 PM EDT
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FIRST OF ALL....MY OPINION, GET A GLOCK. I REALLY PREFER THE 26 I HAVE FOR CARRY. (YOU CAN GET INTO THE 9MM ARGUMENT ALL DAY LONG....) READ UP ON GLOCKMEISTER.COM IF YOU WISH.
I JUST GOT A BARETTA .22 NEOS WHICH IS COOL AS HELL, I AGREE WITH THE POST WHICH SAY START WITH A SMALL CALIBER PISTOL TO GET THE BASICS. CHECK OUT THE NEOS, WHEN YOU MOVE UP YOPU WILL STILL HAVE A COOL LITTLE PLINKER. |
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