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Posted: 9/1/2004 4:07:22 PM EDT
Thus it is written and immutable:
Jimmy Hendrix-overrated Carlos Santana-overrated,sloppy Mark Knopfler,George Harrison, Glen Frey, Don Felder,Zack Wylde (who?) - Rock Clapton, Stevie Ray- kick major ass and rock Les Paul-Godfather and pioneer of electric guitar . Wonder if the youngsters of today even know of him? Make of this as you will. |
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Thus that is bullshit. Mute that. |
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Andres Segovia was the master. All the others are media-spun amateurs....
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+1 don't you have anything better to do |
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Zakk Wylde is amazing. And Les Paul was a big part of my Senior Paper about the development of the electric guitar.
The only thing I don't like about Santana is all of his stuff is in Dm. |
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WTF? WTF? Do you have any idea how many records these folks have sold and are still selling to this very day (not many since kazaa came along....lol). These guys were Rock pioneers man. They defined the music you listen to today in some way or form. Check yoself fool. |
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Jimi Hendrix was a pioneer of modern lead guitar along with Alvin Lee. He is not overated. His music was not real technical, but it was in a league all its own.
I agree about Knopfler and SRV. |
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I used to like Santana back in the late 60's, but always wished he played more clean and crisp.
And yes, Andres Segovia is the master. |
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Carlos Santana is over rated, he's a guitarist a good one but not great, none of his popular songs that I can think of were fully written by himself. Hendirx, was and still is one of the most innovative guitarists of all time, albit a little sloppy live and so rough on the guitar that it had a hard time staying in tune, a true inspirational guitarist Knopfler, Harrison, Frey, Felder, Wylde all good guitarts, not fully the stuff of greatness when talking about their guitar playing, Clapton & SRV among the likes of Hendrix, Pete Townsend, Lightning Hopkins, Buddy Guy, John Lee Hooker, Van Halen (i don't like him, but he is a phenomenal guitar player) Steve Via, Joe Satriani, etc. and no, Despite Les Paul having his name on the guitar, he did not invent it, He built and used what he called "The Log" a basically acoustic quitar with a solid section in the middle with a very crude electric guitar, and with only so/so guitar ability, more akin to bluegrass than anything, (and I'm 23 by the way) he just happened to be an extremely well known guitarist of his day whom Gibson Guitars descided to name their guitar after |
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I think Clapton, while a great player, is severely overrated.
And he'd probably agree with me. |
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Since I am an even worse guitarist, by orders of magnitude, than I am a rifle shot, I feel uniquely qualified to express my opinion regarding guitarists.
But first let me put in a plug for any guitarists like myself who never give up trying to learn and won't admit a fundemental lack of talent... find "guitar alchemist free" with google, and if you want to know about scales, chords and such, it's worth the price -- free. Keeping in mind that there probably isn't any best guitarist just as there is no best AR15. It's just my opinion, what I like. So... Technically, Jimi Hendrix, C. santana, Clapton, and SRV are all in the same class. I still like Knopfler best of all because he never forgets that he's also carrying a melody on the guitar as well as vocally. But Jimi had it all. I mean, on his songs what is the hook you remember? It's the guitar, lots of times. He was a musician and a technical genius. Plus he wrote great songs. Only stevie Ray comes close. I'm just not that much of a blues fan, sorry. I have Mr. Paul's name accross the top of my authentic replica of a Japanese/Mexican Gipson double cutaway. To most poeple these days, he's just that, a name accross the top of a guitar. After giving the matter some thought, I've decided I agree with most people. What makes him the godfather, etc.? Why not Jimi, or Clapton? They contributed to the "evolution of the guitar" as much as he did. |
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David Gilmore - Most under-rated guitarist...
Eddie Van Hallen - Was a pioneer and the best "shred" guitar player at one time... Jimi Page - My Favorite - Can play any style and rock out... Trey Anistasio - The Hendrix of today... Jerry Garcia - Best Acoustic guitar player - especially when teamed with David Grisman Allman Brothers Band- Best example of several guitarists playing together (doesn't matter who is playing guitar.) Any comments? Edited to add: Tablature is your friend OLGA |
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Junior Brown and his Guit Steel are da bomb-diggity.
See him live and you are a fan for life. headbang.gif |
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Please allow me to retort:
Jimi Hendrix- Most innovative guitarist in the world. Excellent player (maybe a bit sloppy live) and on of the most musical people ever to pick up a guitar. Carlos Santana- Good player, not great, but good. Knopfler, Harrison, Frey, Felder, and Clapton- Rock SRV- Mastered that one tone. Not a bad tone, but still just one. Les Paul- A famous guy that Gibson decided would do a good job selling guitars. PS: I am 17, hate nearly all music made in the last 20 years, and think the Les Paul was the best guitar in the world, until they screwed up and put humbuckers in it. Like Ted McCarty (the guy who, among others, deseigned the Les Paul) once said, "The best pickups in the world are single coils, and the P-90 is the ultimate single coil." |
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Without a doubt! BUT - everyone always seems to forget Tony Iommi too. |
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Let's not forget Ed King, Allen Collins, Steve Gaines, and Gary Rossington of Lynyrd Skynyrd,
George Lynch, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Randy Rhoads among all of the amazing guitar players previously mentioned. |
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Lots of metal heads and rockers here...and that cool because almost everyone mentioned here is awesome in their own way...
But... Adrian Legg....is simply put...virtuouso. |
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In addition to Mark Knopfler (who never gets enough credit IMO), there are lots of other great players I like... Chet Atkins, Peter Green, Jorma Kaukonen, Steve Morse, Steve Vai, Leo Kottke, and LBNL, Rory Gallagher. Also, the classical cats like Segovia and jazz greats are in a class of their own.
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Among the previous post apparently Randy Rhodes is the most underated. I've only seen him mentioned once and I think he is the best.
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Add Gary Moore to the list of good players no one knows about.
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Thus it is written and is likewise immutable:
Alex Lifeson-underrated, great musician |
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Hendrix's success is partly due to the fact that he was one of the first to integrate outboard procesing into his rig...ie. Fuzzface, wah, distortion (..through special Fender bassman cabs..) and on and on. He laid the groundwork for much of the tone of today's guitar hero's IMHO
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Don't forget Brian Setzer. Because of him Gretsch guitars are still around. Oh and add Duane Eddy, Eddie Cochran, and Jimmy Vaughan. Thanks Arvin
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Alex seems to have gotten his fingers back in shape recently.. he sounds great on that live DVD from Rio. |
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And anyone who says Jimi is overrated is a complete douchebag. The man was a pioneer. Just ask Stevie Ray Vaughan. |
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HIPPPIE!!!!!!!!!!!, sorry, he's not too shabby, any one ever hear Edgar Cruiz? he's a classically trained guitarist that does covers of classics like Hotel California, what's really amazing is he covers all the different guitar parts at once and does it quite well |
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Chronologically: (1969)
Mr Jimmy Page--First and king of heavy metal rock-Led Zepl-lV Steve Howe--Yes Guy with Pink Floyd Phil Keaggy THe Monster Guitarist of our Time----STEVE MORSE |
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Roy buccannon and danny gatton .No wonder they killed themselves u jackasses.Mike bloomfield could blow people away.John mc laughlin.Leslie west. Robbie krieger ? ever see him live?Music is like food how can you say who is best ?It`s personel taste.Warren haynes.Jeff healy/remember him?You guys need to hit a music store.
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No Zappa? Remember when Steve Vai would be listed as "stunt guitarist" in the liner notes
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Saw John mc laughlin/Steve Morse/Al DiMeola At Tulane 1983-- Fuckin Killaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Leslie west--Mountain? |
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Oh Yea almost forgot ZAPPA Overnight Sensation |
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I'm no guitarist, but I've been around plenty of them, some VERY good ones (but none famous) and I'm a music guy, so I just talk about some of my favs...
SRV--the absolute all-time king of 'feel' or whatever you call it. Stevie didn't so much as play guitar as channel some guitar force beamed in from another dimension. He was like a lighting rod. I've heard him in interviews describe it as something he did not even know from where or how it came. Watch videos of him playing live and you'lll see it...I get goosebumps every time. Eddie--another great 'feel' player--underrated in that department. Some of the stuff on Fair Warning blows my mind. Great chops in his day. Steve Vai--maybe one of the most techinically gifted. I remember watching my very talented friend practice Vai for hour/days/weeks and never really get it. Satriani--see Vai reference--similiar Clapton--overrated. Boring since Cream. Hedrix--pioneer, if you aren't black, you can't get Jimi Dicki Betts--I love his style on the old Allman Bros. stuff. More than Duane Allman (heresy I know). Jimi Page--riff master of all time Vernon Reid--cool cat--metal-funkfusion muthafucka. |
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Ain't that the kettle calling the pot black? |
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Best of the Best already named.
Is Frampton even worth a mention? |
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I forgot about that until now--WOW |
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Who REmembers "Humble Pie" |
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Dick Dale Short list of accomplishments: - Invented the surf guitar sound. - Inspired many huge artists, including Jimmy Hendrix, the Beach Boys, and virtually all "surf" groups. - Among the first people to ever play the Fender Strats and Telecasters. - Leo Fender created the modern guitar amp, and JBL the modern, high-power loudspeaker, for Dale. - First to use external effects (spring reverb meant for voice) on a guitar. - Plays left-handed with strings left upside-down; transposes in his head. - Uses HUGE strings; goes through 5-10 picks per song. Few people seem to know who Dick Dale is, but EVERYONE knows his music. -Troy |
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ronnie earl and the boradcasters
ronnie is another almost unknown gblues uitarist that is amazing |
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Great guitarists in my book are tasteful ones, period. Many play well, but don't serve the song...which to me is more important than chops or style. I like a guy who plays what the song demands or even makes the song better by his playing.
In that light, here's my list of great (tasteful guitarists): Mark Knopfler Chet Atkins Danny Gatton Neil Gerardo (Pat Benatar's guitarist) Elliot Easton Michael Gurley (from Dada) Junior Brown The Edge (sue me, I think he sounds good) Bill Nelson Michael Smith Nuno Bettencourt Mike Campbell (Heartbreakers) Brian Setzer Earl Slick |
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Everyone mentioned so far is great, but there have been several left out.
From the classic rock set: Lindsey Buckingham Joe Walsh Brian May From hard rock/metal: Warren DeMartini Marty Friedman Slash And then there's a couple of special mentions, personal faves of mine: Prince - yes, Prince. Say what you want but this guy kicks ass on guitar. He is one funk-a-fied mofo. Jerry Reed - funky ass country picker - his playing rules, plus he was super cool in "Smokey and the Bandit". If you don't believe me, go out and get Jerry Reed Explores Country Guitar. Or just go back and listen to the guitar breaks and solos in East Bound and Down. And then two very special mentions Ted Nugent - for obvious reasons... it's Uncle Ted. Jeff "Skunk" Baxter - not only a kick ass musician he is a defense analyst and a consultant on Military defense and national security issues, mostly in the area of missile defense. Yeah. |
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