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Posted: 7/5/2022 1:34:13 PM EDT
When phones had cords, rather that screens, were there as many progressive mentally ill people? When the totality of the world's knowledge was not at everyone's fingertips but was trustworthy, weren't more people happy? When your car didn't transmit its status, location and interior conversation, did common people care as much about political news? My view is that the worlds prosperity has only resulted in corruption, lies and mental anguish. I don't see that most people are all that happy, just distracted. We are told only what those, who will kill to stay in power, what to know and like and do. I'd like to abandon technology but modern life can't be managed without it. AI will enslave us.

I figure that I'm in the last 20 or so of my total years and in a way, I hope I don't last that long.

You can keep your "Boomer" accusations.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:35:06 PM EDT
[#1]
YES.

I’m not blaming technology. I’m blaming the idiots that abuse it.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:36:12 PM EDT
[#2]
This was set in motion behind the scenes before the internet and smart phones.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:37:04 PM EDT
[#3]
The 60s never sounded like a time of overall peace and harmony to me.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:37:22 PM EDT
[#4]
Electricity ruined the western world
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:38:08 PM EDT
[#5]
Also, see the comment in the hand grenade thread about old school policing.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:38:17 PM EDT
[#6]
Hell no!  I have an insulin pump and a glucose monitoring system that will help me live longer.  My 24 yo nephew would be dead of a ruptured appendix.  My dad 98 could not keep close tabs on the grain markets.  The rise of the internet has made false news to be shot down quicker.  I can learn how to do almost anything on line.  Need the owner's manual, look it up.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:39:02 PM EDT
[#7]
Technology is not our problem.

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The 60's was a nice time almost everywhere in the United States.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:39:02 PM EDT
[#8]
Yes.  If you have to ask...
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:40:18 PM EDT
[#9]
Human history has been fucking brutal.

Some technology has been extremely beneficial, some has been very harmful.

We're doing pretty good given a broad comparison.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:41:21 PM EDT
[#10]
I think the internet killed American society along with the globalists and over all de-Christianity.


Most people have no clue who their neighbors are, completely not involved with local governments, and feel they have no skin in the game.

But a lot of technology has made it super convenient as a trade-off.



Example: internet scheduling for DMV appointment saves so much of sanity and life.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:43:01 PM EDT
[#11]
Better place, no.

The world was a smaller place as you didn't get the instant news cycle (which social media has made worse) so there's the false appearance that the works was a better place.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:44:03 PM EDT
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Society was A Lot better.    The world, however, is a matter of perspective.     There are life changing medical procedures now, that just weren't available.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:44:19 PM EDT
[#13]
Yes, definitely.  I was there, I remember it.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:45:21 PM EDT
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Human history has been fucking brutal.

Some technology has been extremely beneficial, some has been very harmful.

We're doing pretty good given a broad comparison.
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This.

2022 medical science with 1970’s cars and 1950’s everything else would be pretty sweet.

Anything prior to about 100yrs ago would be a horror show and get progressively worse the further back you went.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:45:44 PM EDT
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Cell phones and the internet are just as much bad as they are good. Portable and instant communication, information and entertainment has had negative effects on most of society's ability to interact in person and in public. Automotive technology is amazing and they get no credit for for advancements in mileage and emissions. The big push for EVs is bound to be steps backward in efficiency and emissions as it's rushed to the mainstream before it's matured.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:46:04 PM EDT
[#16]
Yes, it was a better place.

Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:47:03 PM EDT
[#17]
No
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:48:00 PM EDT
[#18]
Most of you past the age of 50 would already be dead if it wasn't for advances in medical tech. See how long you last when you stop taking those meds.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:48:44 PM EDT
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When phones had cords, rather that screens, were there as many progressive mentally ill people? When the totality of the world's knowledge was not at everyone's fingertips but was trustworthy, weren't more people happy? When your car didn't transmit its status, location and interior conversation, did common people care as much about political news? My view is that the worlds prosperity has only resulted in corruption, lies and mental anguish. I don't see that most people are all that happy, just distracted. We are told only what those, who will kill to stay in power, what to know and like and do. I'd like to abandon technology but modern life can't be managed without it. AI will enslave us.

I figure that I'm in the last 20 or so of my total years and in a way, I hope I don't last that long.

You can keep your "Boomer" accusations.
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We enjoy simple old fashoned living.

There are no cordless/wireless devices in our house, there are no smart appliances, no smart phones, no microwave, no air conditioner, no cable TV service, and our only source of home heating is a wood stove.



We cook our meals from scratch and rarely eat at restaurants.

This is the quiet life we freely chose and it has nothing to do with how anyone else chooses to live.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:49:48 PM EDT
[#20]
"In the last 23 years, have you not marveled as information technology has surged forward? Earth has grown smaller yet greater as connectivity has grown. This is our doing and it is just the beginning." - The Network

I used the spoiler tags in case you haven't seen the movie World's End and don't want to watch a YouTube clip of the ending.


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Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:50:05 PM EDT
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I'm not blaming technology. I'm blaming the idiots that abuse it.
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Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:50:06 PM EDT
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One thing is for sure, it was a lot simpler time. I was a freshman in high school in 1972. 50 years ago! It seems like an eternity but I remember how much simpler life was even then.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:54:57 PM EDT
[#23]
Ita only worse in that the social outcasts and dregs of society have a global voice via the internet to spew their stupidity. In the past they would have been shunned now they can rant and rave in anonymity.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:56:02 PM EDT
[#24]
Not the last 50 years but more like the last 15 years.

The moment that the internet became accessible to normies and social media had an influence on elections was when things went to shit.

Facebook, I-Phones, Barack Obama...it all came together in 2008.

Prior to that all of the mentally ill nutjobs of the world didn't have a platform with broad reach that allowed them to amplify their voices to the point that people were convinced that they held mainstream views.  In 2007 you never could have even imagined this nutjob finding employment with the Department of Energy:

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Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:56:45 PM EDT
[#25]
The internet destroyed societies around the world.
It accelerated Globalism and tore down centuries old cultures.
It allowed for mass migrations and central control of the people.
The pandemic lockdowns could never have happened before the internet.
It allowed China to rise to power, and Socialist extremism in all forms to take root across the world.
It's currently enabling the stripping of our rights as Americans.

Worse of all, the internet is allowing governments and corporations to revise history in favor of their ideologies.
Future generations may never know that we once held freedom in our hands, and tossed it out the window.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 1:57:08 PM EDT
[#26]
Technology is just a tool. The question is how is it used.

Economically speaking, many of our current problems seem to be a result of the end of the Bretton-Woods agreement. For 20 years after the end of WW2 there were regulations in place that kept large tranches of money from sloughing in and out of various different countries. Once that went away a new economic policy began to fester. One that treats everything and everyone as a resource to be extracted.

Politically I would say things are a wash. There is corruption now and there was corruption back then. However if one chooses to be aware of the corruption it's much easier to see it now. It's harder to keep a war secret these days. Unless you have a population that doesn't care or perhaps they can even be made to support the war.

The way things are now is just the inevitable end of decades of terrible policies and business practices. However... We are at a level of technology and population that has never been seen before in recorded human history. If this is the much repeated to the point of being fucking annoying. "Weak men make hard times." Cycle of history then we have the unfortunate possibility that those weak men might decide to take everything down with them once their crimes, especially their widespread pedophila. Become unavoidable.

They might arrange for false flag operations that result in nuclear conflict. Or worse than that. The deployment of race targeted bioweapons. Once that particular genie is out of the bottle. The human species is probably done for. Unless we have become an effective multi planetary species. But we aren't there yet.

Or who knows, perhaps they will legalize pedophila and/or public child sacrifice to Molech and everyone will just muddle along with it until we are a multi planetary society. Then someone will finally do the needful and excise that particular cancer of our species.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:00:55 PM EDT
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We enjoy simple old fashoned living.

There are no cordless/wireless devices in our house, there are no smart appliances, no smart phones, no microwave, no air conditioner, no cable TV service, and our only source of home heating is a wood stove.

https://i.postimg.cc/SK6TGC7d/IMG-0549.jpg

We cook our meals from scratch and rarely eat at restaurants.

This is the quiet life we freely chose and it has nothing to do with how anyone else chooses to live.
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When phones had cords, rather that screens, were there as many progressive mentally ill people? When the totality of the world's knowledge was not at everyone's fingertips but was trustworthy, weren't more people happy? When your car didn't transmit its status, location and interior conversation, did common people care as much about political news? My view is that the worlds prosperity has only resulted in corruption, lies and mental anguish. I don't see that most people are all that happy, just distracted. We are told only what those, who will kill to stay in power, what to know and like and do. I'd like to abandon technology but modern life can't be managed without it. AI will enslave us.

I figure that I'm in the last 20 or so of my total years and in a way, I hope I don't last that long.

You can keep your "Boomer" accusations.


We enjoy simple old fashoned living.

There are no cordless/wireless devices in our house, there are no smart appliances, no smart phones, no microwave, no air conditioner, no cable TV service, and our only source of home heating is a wood stove.

https://i.postimg.cc/SK6TGC7d/IMG-0549.jpg

We cook our meals from scratch and rarely eat at restaurants.

This is the quiet life we freely chose and it has nothing to do with how anyone else chooses to live.


This come to anyone else’s mind while reading this reply?

Gilligan's Island - Theme Song.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:05:28 PM EDT
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When phones had cords, rather that screens, were there as many progressive mentally ill people? When the totality of the world's knowledge was not at everyone's fingertips but was trustworthy, weren't more people happy? When your car didn't transmit its status, location and interior conversation, did common people care as much about political news? My view is that the worlds prosperity has only resulted in corruption, lies and mental anguish. I don't see that most people are all that happy, just distracted. We are told only what those, who will kill to stay in power, what to know and like and do. I'd like to abandon technology but modern life can't be managed without it. AI will enslave us.

I figure that I'm in the last 20 or so of my total years and in a way, I hope I don't last that long.

You can keep your "Boomer" accusations.


We enjoy simple old fashoned living.

There are no cordless/wireless devices in our house, there are no smart appliances, no smart phones, no microwave, no air conditioner, no cable TV service, and our only source of home heating is a wood stove.

https://i.postimg.cc/SK6TGC7d/IMG-0549.jpg

We cook our meals from scratch and rarely eat at restaurants.

This is the quiet life we freely chose and it has nothing to do with how anyone else chooses to live.


This come to anyone else's mind while reading this reply?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcIFlmm_WbU
No, I was just confused that someone would forgo AC but keep internet access.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:06:30 PM EDT
[#29]
In some ways yes, in some ways no.

My brother and I used to debate this all the time before he passed.

He was always optimistic that technology could fix any and all problems and make the world a better place.

I am not. My belief was that advancement created, on average, just as many problems as it solved.

He was always disappointed that things didn't advance fast and far enough to get the world to the sci-fi era he wanted to live in, powered armor, colonies on other planets etc.

If Elon had his Mars colony ready and asked for settlers a decade ago he and I would have both volunteered, but for vastly different reasons.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:08:02 PM EDT
[#30]
Yes.  I hate what technology has brought us. Especially communication tech.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:09:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:09:48 PM EDT
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When television was introduced to countries without it, violence escalated in those countries.

Communication is a double edged sword.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:12:57 PM EDT
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When phones had cords, rather that screens, were there as many progressive mentally ill people? When the totality of the world's knowledge was not at everyone's fingertips but was trustworthy, weren't more people happy? When your car didn't transmit its status, location and interior conversation, did common people care as much about political news? My view is that the worlds prosperity has only resulted in corruption, lies and mental anguish. I don't see that most people are all that happy, just distracted. We are told only what those, who will kill to stay in power, what to know and like and do. I'd like to abandon technology but modern life can't be managed without it. AI will enslave us.

I figure that I'm in the last 20 or so of my total years and in a way, I hope I don't last that long.

You can keep your "Boomer" accusations.
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It wasn't trustworthy then. The people who knew otherwise had a much harder time linking up, so more peasants lived in ignorance. People like you considered the ignorance happiness.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:16:41 PM EDT
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No, I was just confused that someone would forgo AC but keep internet access.
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When phones had cords, rather that screens, were there as many progressive mentally ill people? When the totality of the world's knowledge was not at everyone's fingertips but was trustworthy, weren't more people happy? When your car didn't transmit its status, location and interior conversation, did common people care as much about political news? My view is that the worlds prosperity has only resulted in corruption, lies and mental anguish. I don't see that most people are all that happy, just distracted. We are told only what those, who will kill to stay in power, what to know and like and do. I'd like to abandon technology but modern life can't be managed without it. AI will enslave us.

I figure that I'm in the last 20 or so of my total years and in a way, I hope I don't last that long.

You can keep your "Boomer" accusations.


We enjoy simple old fashoned living.

There are no cordless/wireless devices in our house, there are no smart appliances, no smart phones, no microwave, no air conditioner, no cable TV service, and our only source of home heating is a wood stove.

https://i.postimg.cc/SK6TGC7d/IMG-0549.jpg

We cook our meals from scratch and rarely eat at restaurants.

This is the quiet life we freely chose and it has nothing to do with how anyone else chooses to live.


This come to anyone else's mind while reading this reply?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcIFlmm_WbU
No, I was just confused that someone would forgo AC but keep internet access.


Yeah, maintaining internet access pretty much defeats the point of forgoing all that other stuff.

Our daughter in-law’s family has a cabin a good ways up a mountain canyon. It has landline service, central forced air heat/AC, gas fireplace, a hot tub, etc. But no internet service of cellular reception. It’s a really nice retreat that basically forces people to interact with each other.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:17:24 PM EDT
[#35]
Everyone loves to wax nostalgic, but divorce rates have been dropping for years, crime has been dropping for years, medical advancements have improved exponentially, and the quality of most consumer grade products is much higher.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:19:20 PM EDT
[#36]
traded one devil for another, no sum gain or lose
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:24:15 PM EDT
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Everyone loves to wax nostalgic, but divorce rates have been dropping for years, crime has been dropping for years, medical advancements have improved exponentially, and the quality of most consumer grade products is much higher.
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Aren’t divorce rates dropping because marriage rates are dropping? How’s the rate of single parent households doing?
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:24:24 PM EDT
[#38]
I think the intelligence gap is widening in the last 50-years.

It used to be that if you had a strong back and work ethic to go along with it you could manage to find a job in a factory plucking chickens, refining steel, or building Buicks. Those jobs are now being filled by illegal aliens that our government wants and by overseas labor that pays pennies on our dollars for labor cost. If you have an average IQ you might find a decent job buy for those blessed with an IQ of 90 or even 80, there's not a job in a thousand for someone like that any longer. With welfare paying the equivalent of +$30 an hour by some measures it's harder to find semi-skilled workers who work their tails off for barely more than that, less when taxes and fees are taken out.

The liberals just don't understand economics and with the red book carrying socialist pushing hard capitalism and the Republic as a whole shakes and wobbles sending ripples across the world.  

Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:26:39 PM EDT
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But the meds help with paranoia.

Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:27:49 PM EDT
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Aren’t divorce rates dropping because marriage rates are dropping? How’s the rate of single parent households doing?
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Everyone loves to wax nostalgic, but divorce rates have been dropping for years, crime has been dropping for years, medical advancements have improved exponentially, and the quality of most consumer grade products is much higher.


Aren’t divorce rates dropping because marriage rates are dropping? How’s the rate of single parent households doing?


lol
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:28:32 PM EDT
[#41]
life was hard burning off forest to replace cropland that was over farmed... but at least the kids didn't waste all day on social media...

Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:31:30 PM EDT
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There are plenty of religious organizations that preach such a life. Lots of wise choices there but I have embraced the moral evils of indoor plumbing, heating and cooling, and microwaves. Personally I enjoy crapping on a warm toilet seat in the winter when the snow is 3' high.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:33:19 PM EDT
[#43]
Better for most tech. Social media has set us on a train to ruin. Don’t know how you put that genie back in the bottle other than some Chicom level control of the population and/or internet.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:33:37 PM EDT
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We enjoy simple old fashoned living.

There are no cordless/wireless devices in our house, there are no smart appliances, no smart phones, no microwave, no air conditioner, no cable TV service, and our only source of home heating is a wood stove.

https://i.postimg.cc/SK6TGC7d/IMG-0549.jpg

We cook our meals from scratch and rarely eat at restaurants.

This is the quiet life we freely chose and it has nothing to do with how anyone else chooses to live.
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When phones had cords, rather that screens, were there as many progressive mentally ill people? When the totality of the world's knowledge was not at everyone's fingertips but was trustworthy, weren't more people happy? When your car didn't transmit its status, location and interior conversation, did common people care as much about political news? My view is that the worlds prosperity has only resulted in corruption, lies and mental anguish. I don't see that most people are all that happy, just distracted. We are told only what those, who will kill to stay in power, what to know and like and do. I'd like to abandon technology but modern life can't be managed without it. AI will enslave us.

I figure that I'm in the last 20 or so of my total years and in a way, I hope I don't last that long.

You can keep your "Boomer" accusations.


We enjoy simple old fashoned living.

There are no cordless/wireless devices in our house, there are no smart appliances, no smart phones, no microwave, no air conditioner, no cable TV service, and our only source of home heating is a wood stove.

https://i.postimg.cc/SK6TGC7d/IMG-0549.jpg

We cook our meals from scratch and rarely eat at restaurants.

This is the quiet life we freely chose and it has nothing to do with how anyone else chooses to live.


Yet here you are somehow posting on an internet forum.

Dial up?
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:41:26 PM EDT
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Yes, but that's from my personal perspective

But, technology is good and it makes life more comfortable



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Hell no, he's not allowing that modern stuff in his house.

IP over Avian Carriers
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:49:45 PM EDT
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Yet here you are somehow posting on an internet forum.

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When phones had cords, rather that screens, were there as many progressive mentally ill people? When the totality of the world's knowledge was not at everyone's fingertips but was trustworthy, weren't more people happy? When your car didn't transmit its status, location and interior conversation, did common people care as much about political news? My view is that the worlds prosperity has only resulted in corruption, lies and mental anguish. I don't see that most people are all that happy, just distracted. We are told only what those, who will kill to stay in power, what to know and like and do. I'd like to abandon technology but modern life can't be managed without it. AI will enslave us.

I figure that I'm in the last 20 or so of my total years and in a way, I hope I don't last that long.

You can keep your "Boomer" accusations.


We enjoy simple old fashoned living.

There are no cordless/wireless devices in our house, there are no smart appliances, no smart phones, no microwave, no air conditioner, no cable TV service, and our only source of home heating is a wood stove.

https://i.postimg.cc/SK6TGC7d/IMG-0549.jpg

We cook our meals from scratch and rarely eat at restaurants.

This is the quiet life we freely chose and it has nothing to do with how anyone else chooses to live.


Yet here you are somehow posting on an internet forum.

Dial up?


Hamsters.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:52:30 PM EDT
[#48]
I'm with you OP.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:52:34 PM EDT
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We enjoy simple old fashoned living.

There are no cordless/wireless devices in our house, there are no smart appliances, no smart phones, no microwave, no air conditioner, no cable TV service, and our only source of home heating is a wood stove.

https://i.postimg.cc/SK6TGC7d/IMG-0549.jpg

We cook our meals from scratch and rarely eat at restaurants.

This is the quiet life we freely chose and it has nothing to do with how anyone else chooses to live.
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Those are personal creature comforts you are forgoing.  Social media, internet, global communication at your fingertips is what is being considered. Which you obviously have, and use to access the internet and this very social media website.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 2:52:55 PM EDT
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Modern tech does make using money effectively much easier.

Buying a car I can have msrp, invoice and trade in value as well as instant dealer inventory while drinking coffee before putting pants on in the morning.

Buying a house can have a virtual tour, tax rate, local crime rate and comp data.

Can buy or sell stocks/options in real time with no commissions.

Online savings accounts that pay 3-5x what any local place offers.

It's 39 cents cheaper to pay property/vehicle tax online than even sticking a stamp on a envelope.
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