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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:24:43 AM EDT
Springfield just dropped this teaser on social media this morning:
  Attached FileOh, and IBFSA  ETA: Officially named the 'Hellion', web page is now live: https://www.springfield-armory.com/hellion-series/hellion-rifles/ |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:32:27 AM EDT
[#1]
 HS PRODUKT VHS Springfield.. should future owners print out their return labels for repairs in advance?
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:38:04 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFRBgkQsMe0Springfield.. should future owners print out their return labels for repairs in advance? See a normal person would automatically assume this is what their teaser is about. But then we're reminded that the ATC exists.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:39:02 AM EDT
[#3]
I just posted it over in their Industry forum.
The sample they imported a few years ago was the VHS-K3, so three VHS tapes? Plausible. Or their marketing people are gigantic cockteases and it'll end up being another 1911 or something. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:40:18 AM EDT
[#4]
So, an RBD that's made by an actual gun manufacturer?
Cool! |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:42:07 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just posted it over in their Industry forum. The sample they imported a few years ago was the VHS-K3, so three VHS tapes? Plausible. Or their marketing people are gigantic cockteases and it'll end up being another 1911 or something.  |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:45:44 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFRBgkQsMe0Springfield.. should future owners print out their return labels for repairs in advance? Known for great customer service. Because it is used..a lot. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:46:27 AM EDT
[#7]
Unless they were able to switch to Stanag mags instead of the proprietary mags, no care.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:46:54 AM EDT
[#8]
Another plastic striker fired gun that no one wants?
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:47:04 AM EDT
[#9]
Oh, shit.
I want one of those in the worst way. (The VHS rifle) Between this and the SA-35, Springfield is going to get some cash from me this year... |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:48:32 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Or their marketing people are gigantic cockteases and it'll end up being another 1911 or something. Any one in marketing nowadays is probably too young to know what a VHS tape is, so....
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:48:42 AM EDT
[#11]
Will it have important parts held in by glue instead of pins?
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:50:53 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Unless they were able to switch to Stanag mags instead of the proprietary mags, no care. VHS-2 uses STANAG mags, so... yes? |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:54:59 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: VHS-2 uses STANAG mags, so... yes? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Unless they were able to switch to Stanag mags instead of the proprietary mags, no care. VHS-2 uses STANAG mags, so... yes? Interchangeable mag wells according to Gun Jesus:  French Trials VHS-F2 Croatian Bullpup ETA: Dat grenade launcher though! 
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:55:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:57:08 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: VHS-2 uses STANAG mags, so... yes? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Unless they were able to switch to Stanag mags instead of the proprietary mags, no care. VHS-2 uses STANAG mags, so... yes? The one to be originally imported had proprietary, so no clue. ETA: Answered above. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:57:26 AM EDT
[#16]
Oh shit the madlads are actually going to import them?
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:59:17 AM EDT
[#17]
Only bullpup that kind of interests me.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 11:59:54 AM EDT
[#18]
I would buy one
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:00:25 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would buy one All depends on pricing. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:00:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: All depends on pricing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would buy one All depends on pricing. Me too, 2k and below I’ll bite |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:01:04 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Only bullpup that kind of interests me. I'd rather have the F90. 
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:02:32 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Interchangeable mag wells according to Gun Jesus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A-1lBWqHrwETA: Dat grenade launcher though! I knew it was something like that. That's a really cool idea. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:05:19 PM EDT
[#23]
Cool.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:06:35 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Only took 10 seconds… https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/170028/9FC7D352-3D79-4944-8A29-F225A28B84C3_jpe-2237707.JPG Saw that, fucking LOL. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:06:41 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So, an RBD that's made by an actual gun manufacturer? Cool! |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:10:21 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So, an RBD that's made by an actual gun manufacturer? Cool! I like the RDB. It's the best bullup I've played with, and it's the first one I actually took home. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:17:37 PM EDT
[#27]
Not too familiar with the VHS. But what is HK's part in it? Cuz that thing has some VERY HK styling to it.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:17:48 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Me too, 2k and below I’ll bite Yup. If this is in the same price range as the AUG/Tavor, I'm in! |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:41:38 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I knew it was something like that. That's a really cool idea. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Interchangeable mag wells according to Gun Jesus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A-1lBWqHrwETA: Dat grenade launcher though! I knew it was something like that. That's a really cool idea. Ian probably covered it in greater detail, but the very first prototypes of the VHS used AR/M16 mags. Then they transitioned to G36-pattern ones since Croatia had far more of those in inventory than the AR/M16 type. The VHS-2 was modular in that regard and could be configured for either one. The CZ Bren 805 was setup much the same for the same reasons. In the early 2000s, there were more G36s in Europe than M16s. With the HK416 catching on everywhere, that's changing the status quo quite a lot. I hope IF we get a VHS-K3 that it retains that modular capability and the G36-type magazine well is available. My Bren 805 is setup for G36 mags (the "retro" mag well) and I have quite enough HK, CZ, and Magpul G36 mags to feed both.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:45:09 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope IF we get a VHS-K3 that it retains that modular capability and the G36-type magazine well is available. My Bren 805 is setup for G36 mags (the "retro" mag well) and I have quite enough HK, CZ, and Magpul G36 mags to feed both. Me too. It really is a neat idea. Maybe they could ship the gun with the STANAG magwell, but offer the G36 ones as an option - and maybe even add one for AUG mags, as I know there are lots of those out there as well. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:45:55 PM EDT
[#31]
Shut up and take my money!
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:54:39 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Shut up and take my money! |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 1:02:17 PM EDT
[#33]
Bullpups
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Posted: 1/12/2022 1:04:08 PM EDT
[#34]
Figured they were getting in on the 30 Super Carry
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Posted: 1/12/2022 1:04:41 PM EDT
[#35]
Very cool ??
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Posted: 1/12/2022 1:09:02 PM EDT
[#36]
Well that’s different
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Posted: 1/12/2022 1:18:45 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not too familiar with the VHS. But what is HK's part in it? Cuz that thing has some VERY HK styling to it. Nothing that I'm aware of. As was said, the Croatian military ones are set up to use G36 mags because Croatia has a lot of those. Other than that the gun is really more of a product-improved FAMAS (and the original VHS was very FAMAS, at least externally) than anything else. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 1:19:59 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing that I'm aware of. As was said, the Croatian military ones are set up to use G36 mags because Croatia has a lot of those. Other than that the gun is really more of a product-improved FAMAS (and the original VHS was very FAMAS) than anything else. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not too familiar with the VHS. But what is HK's part in it? Cuz that thing has some VERY HK styling to it. Nothing that I'm aware of. As was said, the Croatian military ones are set up to use G36 mags because Croatia has a lot of those. Other than that the gun is really more of a product-improved FAMAS (and the original VHS was very FAMAS) than anything else. Other than the selector markings and the charging handle, I don't see much H&K lineage myself. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 2:28:28 PM EDT
[#39]
What is this?
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Posted: 1/12/2022 2:31:20 PM EDT
[#40]
Depending on price, I might bite. Would accompany my Tavor nicely
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Posted: 1/12/2022 2:33:07 PM EDT
[#41]
Its length of pull looks a mile long but I really want one. It looks far too tech-noir to not have.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 2:36:14 PM EDT
[#42]
I would be on a VHS-2 like a bum on a bologna samich
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Posted: 1/12/2022 2:37:10 PM EDT
[#43]
Hopefully, it's in 9mm Luger or 5.56 NATO.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 2:39:15 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its length of pull looks a mile long but I really want one. It looks far too tech-noir to not have. LOP looks adjustable... which is pretty fucking cool for a bullpup. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 2:39:42 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its length of pull looks a mile long but I really want one. It looks far too tech-noir to not have. LOP should be adjustable from what I remember. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 2:41:55 PM EDT
[#46]
I've been hoping for years that someone would import these. Figured it would never happen. FAMAS aesthetic without the wonky FAMAS operating system.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 2:44:25 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would be on a VHS-2 like a bum on a bologna samich https://www.dandbmilitaria.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/2/3/232db_2_16.jpg Is it me or is the LOP really long? Edit: Ah adjustable. Looks like its 3 notches out. I wish there was a way to get this without the Springfield armory logo on it |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 3:20:25 PM EDT
[#48]
The VHS wins the award for ugliest bullpup.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 3:31:34 PM EDT
[#49]
In on a VHS like a 17 year old in his hot high school teacher
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Posted: 1/12/2022 3:53:25 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryProbably something to do with whatever name they give it...similar to how they teased the Hellcat: 
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