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This is now the active "shit News links, thanks to BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH Kyiv Post Ukrainian News UKRInform EUROMAIDEN PRESS New Voice of Ukraine Kyiv Independent Ukraine World InterFax Ukraine UATV Ukrainian Journal Official Website of the President of Ukraine Ukrainian Ministry of Defense Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often. View Quote Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise. New news link c/o berettaguy: Ukrainian Pravda https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/ Stop fake, anti - disinformation site: https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/ |
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Originally Posted By Jozsi: As I said since the fucken beginning of this thread. Hungary would dump Russia easily if Hungary got access to a better deal on the Paks II station. The EU for almost 16 years has been asking and forcing and nudging Hungary to stop the nuclear power plant and shut it down and go buy gas on the open market. Hungary has refused. Ukraine isn't so fucken innocent again also with the forced language shit they passed. I'd rather that Ukraine and Hungary are friends and I'd rather that Hungary gets a better deal on nuclear terms for the plants. Poland signed a deal with South Korea also. https://www.politico.eu/article/poland-ramps-up-nuclear-expansion-commissions-south-korea-for-four-new-reactors/ Hungary getting butt fucked with dumb alliances is because all of the previous politicians cared was for Hungary and nothing else. Horthy got Vienna awards I and II and Hitler asked him to join in Barbarossa and what happened? The foreign minister Count Teleki committed suicide because he didn't know what to do. Also, Russia bombed Kassa and that was the prelude for Hungary joining the war. But we still don't know who actually did it. Stalin and Molotov asked Hungary to stay out of the war and they even returned the battle flags they captured from 1848 back to Hungary. They even said they will honor Vienna I and II and then Kassa bombing happened. In the end, as a Hungarian myself, I want Hungary to be involved and help Ukraine fuck up Russia and we shove and burn that whole fucken plant to the ground but nobody has Paks I parts except for the Orcs. I've watched the negotiations constantly on the replacement and that is Hungary's future but now that Hungary signed Paks II with the Orcs...and why?? ZERO INTEREST loan on it and it was better terms than what the French, Americans and others were offering but those offerings was because of the hand twisting from the EU and their anti nuclear stance. I'm not changing my stance on it but here is the TLDR. - Hungary has NO TERRITORIAL ambitions with the Ukraine, it is all about the Nuclear power plant and Paks I is scheduled to be shut down in 2030 and then HUNGARY is fucked with no independent power. Until Hungary gets a better term and better conditions to break the RusAtom contract, Hungary is gonna remain neutral sadly. It's all about that stupid fucken power plant and their EU. It's political football.. nothing else. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By BUCC_Guy: Strangely cut video. May be a Russian suicide with a drone drop for good measure. Weird. |
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Big current assessment of the war in Ukraine available in pdf format.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote I am wishfully thinking some offensive action will take place. They can't just keep letting russia launch on their power systems. Ether start dismantling Belogrod and rostov or go after the bomber bases. |
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Originally Posted By theskuh: I am wishfully thinking some offensive action will take place. They can't just keep letting russia launch on their power systems. Ether start dismantling Belogrod and rostov or go after the bomber bases. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By theskuh: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I am wishfully thinking some offensive action will take place. They can't just keep letting russia launch on their power systems. Ether start dismantling Belogrod and rostov or go after the bomber bases. Me too, plus knowing another one is coming in about a week, I'm hoping additional air defenses are set up to protect that power infrastructure. |
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Originally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiRd4-wXEBEDGhO?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiRd4wvXEAkLDM6?format=jpg&name=medium View Quote That can't be real. That's to nuts even for a psycho Russian. Right? |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote Those linked sources were taken offline. Wonder what the backstory on that is? |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote How many of us didn’t know we loved Poland so much until all this? |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote Wow. A better defense is a good offense.. long past time to start giving Ukraine ATACMS and cruise missile capability. It would also be great to start copying the Iranian suicide drones and start sending those back to Russia.. in mass formations. |
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: That can't be real. That's to nuts even for a psycho Russian. Right? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiRd4-wXEBEDGhO?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiRd4wvXEAkLDM6?format=jpg&name=medium That can't be real. That's to nuts even for a psycho Russian. Right? Originally Posted By Freiheit8472: Still russkie propaganda according to the replies. It’s funny they knock the electrical wiring. Don’t walk around too many gov operations here! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/A2D7BBCC-CA9E-41DE-9F17-46C7DA295E84-2611802.png https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/10A905DB-5B86-4AA7-AAE7-ED9DE2D0D0EC-2611803.png They haven’t sent it to the EU (yet) |
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Originally Posted By m35ben: So many similarities between what he says and what we hear here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICDCWFHzlq0 View Quote In this video, we watch the assailant claim to be the victim. |
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Originally Posted By 74HC: Those are your opinions, but my opinion is that Orban is setting up the long game with that scarf. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 74HC: Originally Posted By Jozsi: As I said since the fucken beginning of this thread. Hungary would dump Russia easily if Hungary got access to a better deal on the Paks II station. The EU for almost 16 years has been asking and forcing and nudging Hungary to stop the nuclear power plant and shut it down and go buy gas on the open market. Hungary has refused. Ukraine isn't so fucken innocent again also with the forced language shit they passed. I'd rather that Ukraine and Hungary are friends and I'd rather that Hungary gets a better deal on nuclear terms for the plants. Poland signed a deal with South Korea also. https://www.politico.eu/article/poland-ramps-up-nuclear-expansion-commissions-south-korea-for-four-new-reactors/ Hungary getting butt fucked with dumb alliances is because all of the previous politicians cared was for Hungary and nothing else. Horthy got Vienna awards I and II and Hitler asked him to join in Barbarossa and what happened? The foreign minister Count Teleki committed suicide because he didn't know what to do. Also, Russia bombed Kassa and that was the prelude for Hungary joining the war. But we still don't know who actually did it. Stalin and Molotov asked Hungary to stay out of the war and they even returned the battle flags they captured from 1848 back to Hungary. They even said they will honor Vienna I and II and then Kassa bombing happened. In the end, as a Hungarian myself, I want Hungary to be involved and help Ukraine fuck up Russia and we shove and burn that whole fucken plant to the ground but nobody has Paks I parts except for the Orcs. I've watched the negotiations constantly on the replacement and that is Hungary's future but now that Hungary signed Paks II with the Orcs...and why?? ZERO INTEREST loan on it and it was better terms than what the French, Americans and others were offering but those offerings was because of the hand twisting from the EU and their anti nuclear stance. I'm not changing my stance on it but here is the TLDR. - Hungary has NO TERRITORIAL ambitions with the Ukraine, it is all about the Nuclear power plant and Paks I is scheduled to be shut down in 2030 and then HUNGARY is fucked with no independent power. Until Hungary gets a better term and better conditions to break the RusAtom contract, Hungary is gonna remain neutral sadly. It's all about that stupid fucken power plant and their EU. It's political football.. nothing else. Treaty of Trianon was because of Wilson and his bullshit policies. I mean who does that and carves out 4 million people into other countries unless you want to create another war. In the end, you don't live here, I do and all Orban wants is that Hungarians can practice and do their own fucken thing. The EU can be a guarantee of that but borders moving around again is never happening. But do on and listen to the shit needs on it. |
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Originally Posted By theskuh: I am wishfully thinking some offensive action will take place. They can't just keep letting russia launch on their power systems. Ether start dismantling Belogrod and rostov or go after the bomber bases. View Quote Big airstrike on Novorossiysk would fuck RU's shit up. It's a long mission to get there, though, since they lack in flight refueling infrastructure. |
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Originally Posted By Brok3n: I'm shocked this didn't happen more after the disaster of the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and the inability of Russia to provide any kind of meaningful help. The sharks are starting to smell Putin's blood in the water.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Brok3n: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
The Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO)[3] is an intergovernmental military alliance in Eurasia consisting of six post-Soviet states: Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, and Tajikistan. The Collective Security Treaty has its origins in the Soviet Armed Forces, which was replaced in 1992 by the United Armed Forces of the Commonwealth of Independent States, and was then itself replaced by the successor armed forces of the respective independent states. Similar to Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty and the Inter-American Treaty of Reciprocal Assistance, Article 4 of the Collective Security Treaty (CST) establishes that an aggression against one signatory would be perceived as an aggression against all. The CSTO charter reaffirmed the desire of all participating states to abstain from the use or threat of force. Signatories are prohibited from joining other military alliances.[4] I'm shocked this didn't happen more after the disaster of the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and the inability of Russia to provide any kind of meaningful help. The sharks are starting to smell Putin's blood in the water.. Putin betrayed the Armenians, there was no “inability to help”. It was due to a combination of wanting to stay on good terms with the Azeris (and their Turkish patrons) and putting Armenia in a position of increased dependency on him for “protection”. He didn’t let Baby Assad twist in the wind like he did to Armenia. |
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Originally Posted By Brok3n: Wow. A better defense is a good offense.. long past time to start giving Ukraine ATACMS and cruise missile capability. It would also be great to start copying the Iranian suicide drones and start sending those back to Russia.. in mass formations. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Brok3n: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Wow. A better defense is a good offense.. long past time to start giving Ukraine ATACMS and cruise missile capability. It would also be great to start copying the Iranian suicide drones and start sending those back to Russia.. in mass formations. This does seem to be what they are doing. The only released photograph of a part of this drone. https://mil.in.ua/en/news/ukroboronprom-is-developing-weapons-with-a-range-of-1-000-km/#:~:text=Against%20the%20background%20of%20Russian,of%20the%20concern%20on%20Facebook facebook link: https://www.facebook.com/100068804096685/posts/420733193563480/?flite=scwspnss They are flight testing in bad weather as of a post this morning. Company site page here: https://www.facebook.com/ukroboronprom Awesome image as their header. |
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"We were running away from a tank yesterday, F'n hell it had thermal vision for f'ks sake, chopping everything."
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I agree, certainly seems to be developing cracks.
View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Brok3n: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
The Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO)[3] is an intergovernmental military alliance in Eurasia consisting of six post-Soviet states: Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, and Tajikistan. The Collective Security Treaty has its origins in the Soviet Armed Forces, which was replaced in 1992 by the United Armed Forces of the Commonwealth of Independent States, and was then itself replaced by the successor armed forces of the respective independent states. Similar to Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty and the Inter-American Treaty of Reciprocal Assistance, Article 4 of the Collective Security Treaty (CST) establishes that an aggression against one signatory would be perceived as an aggression against all. The CSTO charter reaffirmed the desire of all participating states to abstain from the use or threat of force. Signatories are prohibited from joining other military alliances.[4] I'm shocked this didn't happen more after the disaster of the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and the inability of Russia to provide any kind of meaningful help. The sharks are starting to smell Putin's blood in the water.. I agree, certainly seems to be developing cracks.
In 2020 Putin cynically didn’t help until Armenia was willing to sell their soul to him. Now, he can’t help. What’s the use of being a client state to a patron that doesn’t do shit for you? The Armenians have figured out that the only way to make the Azeris stop is to cut a deal with the Azeri’s backers. |
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Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: They should melt the head down into a barely recognizable lump and put the handle through a wood chipper, put it back in the case and send it back to them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Originally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiRd4-wXEBEDGhO?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiRd4wvXEAkLDM6?format=jpg&name=medium They should melt the head down into a barely recognizable lump and put the handle through a wood chipper, put it back in the case and send it back to them. A blacksmith should forge the head into a figurine of Putin, and put the handle in his ass. |
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Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: They should melt the head down into a barely recognizable lump and put the handle through a wood chipper, put it back in the case and send it back to them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Originally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiRd4-wXEBEDGhO?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiRd4wvXEAkLDM6?format=jpg&name=medium They should melt the head down into a barely recognizable lump and put the handle through a wood chipper, put it back in the case and send it back to them. Melt it down and make ammo for Ukraine from it! |
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: At least we haven't argued over 5.45 .vs 5.56 yet... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By doc540: This thread has more rabbit holes than the Somme. At least we haven't argued over 5.45 .vs 5.56 yet... Hell with that. 30mm VOG17 vs. 40mm M203 is the real argument. |
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KF7WNX If you want a picture of the future, imagine Clownshoes stomping on a human face—for ever.
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Originally Posted By elcope: Hell with that. 30mm VOG17 vs. 40mm M203 is the real argument. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By doc540: This thread has more rabbit holes than the Somme. At least we haven't argued over 5.45 .vs 5.56 yet... Hell with that. 30mm VOG17 vs. 40mm M203 is the real argument. Seriously, and VOG17 is winning. |
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Originally Posted By elcope: Hell with that. 30mm VOG17 vs. 40mm M203 is the real argument. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By doc540: This thread has more rabbit holes than the Somme. At least we haven't argued over 5.45 .vs 5.56 yet... Hell with that. 30mm VOG17 vs. 40mm M203 is the real argument. I'm looking forward to Javelin/NLAW/C90/Carl G/PZF-3 analysis. |
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Originally Posted By elcope: Hell with that. 30mm VOG17 vs. 40mm M203 is the real argument. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By doc540: This thread has more rabbit holes than the Somme. At least we haven't argued over 5.45 .vs 5.56 yet... Hell with that. 30mm VOG17 vs. 40mm M203 is the real argument. The 30mm is a better Antipersonnel round, its longer body is better for frag. |
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In the real world off-campus, good marksmanship trumps good will.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiSuTs0XkAAKQdq?format=png&name=small View Quote Russia can never win with Ukrainians like that. Seriously Ukrainians are some bad ass mofos. |
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Blameless, the tempest will be just that
So try as you may, feeble, your attempt to atone Your words to erase all the damage cannot A tempest must be just that |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Brutal.
View Quote That's a fucking insane amount of casualties. |
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My principles are only those that, before the French Revolution, every well-born person considered sane and normal.
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KF7WNX If you want a picture of the future, imagine Clownshoes stomping on a human face—for ever.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote Well that struck a cord. Damn onions..... |
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Blameless, the tempest will be just that
So try as you may, feeble, your attempt to atone Your words to erase all the damage cannot A tempest must be just that |
The advantage a thermal weapon sight gives.
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Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: That's a fucking insane amount of casualties. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Brutal.
That's a fucking insane amount of casualties. They are beening bled white... |
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Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
Soldier: "Look, you ain't sellin it to me, you're only showing me how it works." |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Originally Posted By m35ben: That has to suck for Iran. They have very options to respond with. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
There was a heavy effort a few months back to locate and report Iranian instructors seen in various areas. Must have gotten good intel. |
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Originally Posted By JethroActual: Paul Pelosi already put in a bid on it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: That's a fucking insane amount of casualties. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Brutal.
That's a fucking insane amount of casualties. That's wild, they pretty much just lay there if it's your time to go then it's your time to go mentality. What a backward way of thinking. Russia is wasting lives for no damn reason |
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Originally Posted By Jozsi: Treaty of Trianon was because of Wilson and his bullshit policies. I mean who does that and carves out 4 million people into other countries unless you want to create another war. In the end, you don't live here, I do and all Orban wants is that Hungarians can practice and do their own fucken thing. The EU can be a guarantee of that but borders moving around again is never happening. But do on and listen to the shit needs on it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jozsi: Originally Posted By 74HC: Originally Posted By Jozsi: As I said since the fucken beginning of this thread. Hungary would dump Russia easily if Hungary got access to a better deal on the Paks II station. The EU for almost 16 years has been asking and forcing and nudging Hungary to stop the nuclear power plant and shut it down and go buy gas on the open market. Hungary has refused. Ukraine isn't so fucken innocent again also with the forced language shit they passed. I'd rather that Ukraine and Hungary are friends and I'd rather that Hungary gets a better deal on nuclear terms for the plants. Poland signed a deal with South Korea also. https://www.politico.eu/article/poland-ramps-up-nuclear-expansion-commissions-south-korea-for-four-new-reactors/ Hungary getting butt fucked with dumb alliances is because all of the previous politicians cared was for Hungary and nothing else. Horthy got Vienna awards I and II and Hitler asked him to join in Barbarossa and what happened? The foreign minister Count Teleki committed suicide because he didn't know what to do. Also, Russia bombed Kassa and that was the prelude for Hungary joining the war. But we still don't know who actually did it. Stalin and Molotov asked Hungary to stay out of the war and they even returned the battle flags they captured from 1848 back to Hungary. They even said they will honor Vienna I and II and then Kassa bombing happened. In the end, as a Hungarian myself, I want Hungary to be involved and help Ukraine fuck up Russia and we shove and burn that whole fucken plant to the ground but nobody has Paks I parts except for the Orcs. I've watched the negotiations constantly on the replacement and that is Hungary's future but now that Hungary signed Paks II with the Orcs...and why?? ZERO INTEREST loan on it and it was better terms than what the French, Americans and others were offering but those offerings was because of the hand twisting from the EU and their anti nuclear stance. I'm not changing my stance on it but here is the TLDR. - Hungary has NO TERRITORIAL ambitions with the Ukraine, it is all about the Nuclear power plant and Paks I is scheduled to be shut down in 2030 and then HUNGARY is fucked with no independent power. Until Hungary gets a better term and better conditions to break the RusAtom contract, Hungary is gonna remain neutral sadly. It's all about that stupid fucken power plant and their EU. It's political football.. nothing else. Treaty of Trianon was because of Wilson and his bullshit policies. I mean who does that and carves out 4 million people into other countries unless you want to create another war. In the end, you don't live here, I do and all Orban wants is that Hungarians can practice and do their own fucken thing. The EU can be a guarantee of that but borders moving around again is never happening. But do on and listen to the shit needs on it. You sound conflicted with one hand you want the territory back. On the other hand, you think it's not worth it and leave the borders be. Hungary is not on my list of places to live. Too many roving thieves, or maybe there is fewer now that they are roaming the EU pick pocketing, running ruses to steal stuff to unsuspecting people. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Brutal.
View Quote I wonder which one of those guys fucked the Drone master's sister because it looks personal to me. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: "We were running away from a tank yesterday, F'n hell it had thermal vision for f'ks sake, chopping everything."
View Quote You know it's bad when you get down to asking your mother for help. |
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Just a stranger on the bus trying to find his way home.
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You don't get to see the aftermath, but this is a Ukrainian first person view drone with a weapon flying and diving in on a Russian position.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/z32vxg/video_showing_a_ukrainian_loitering_munition/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 |
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Originally Posted By jungatheart: You know it's bad when you get down to asking your mother for help. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jungatheart: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: "We were running away from a tank yesterday, F'n hell it had thermal vision for f'ks sake, chopping everything."
You know it's bad when you get down to asking your mother for help. I got to be honest, I'm glad she wants to help and go pick up her son. She has empathy. |
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