06-27-2022 - jovan pulitzer paper analysis p 68

04-04-2022 raffensperger issued 4 subpoenas for information after ignoring truethevote for a year.... problem is, there was a person that was lead counsel for abram's group that would get the name of the whistleblower, if ttv complies... p65

04-04-2022 charles kirk talks to dinesh d'sousza about the truethevote info - says he saw the evidence and saw harvesters visiting abram's offices between ballot drops... nightly - page 62

03-01-2022 Dispite speaker vos attempts to derail the investigation into wisconsin election fraud by gableman, gableman presented an interim report in a hearing today, reccommending the election be decertified

not a good summary of what happened in the hearing has been found yet, but a link to the report is on page 60


02-11-2022 Feds want to supress both full and redacted reports that  dominion machines have vulnerabilities and are hackable, because they don't want others to know what the vulnerabilities are p59 or https://apnews.com/article/technology-georgia-atlanta-voting-elections-d4543623099fea5bf3633d0913532c11

01/28/2022 PA state court ruled that the no excuse mail in voter law was unconstitutional. article P58, likely to be put on hold while appealed to PA supreme court by the governor

01/12/22 raffensperger to be interviews on john fredericks show, links p57

01/04/22 - raffensperger openning investigation into reports of ballot harvesting and collussion, reports made by truethevote from back in august - page 57

dec - various reports of investigations going on page 57


12/08 - wisconsin state hearing on voter rolls, too many discrepencies such as over 120,000 ACTIVE voters who have been registered to vote for more than 100 years, etc. too many to  to list, thanks to DaGoose for finding video see p55

11/19 update 12/2   kemp has his own office do investigation into claims available (as not all information that is suppose to be available has been provided) fulton county data doesn't match their reported numbers from prior audits....

kemp's office finds the fulton county information and numbers can't be vaildated, as they don't match and fulton county and calls for state investigation page 55

11/09 - voter ga has determined all in person ballot images are missing in fulton county, and 74 counties are also missing ballot images and more p54

10/13 - georgia judge amero throws out garland favorito request to examine absentee ballots for lack of injury and had no standing, after hearing from georgia investigators no evidence of fraud exist p53


10/07 - house oversight hearing sham - maricopa admits they deleted data from machines before turning them over to senate audit team. they claim they 'archived' the data, and did not turn over the 'archived' data because it was not directly requested - p52

9/23 - texas sos announces request for forensic audit of 4 counties - dallas, harris, tarrant, and collin for the 2929 election - page 46

9/22 - Maricopa county supervisor chucri resigns after recordings of him doubting authenticity of election leaked and posted at the gateway pundit. other recordings to follow - page 46

9/17 maricopa county had a late, special hearing on the charges they violated arizona law and were under threat of losing millions in funding as a result, as well as possible misdemeanor charges and prison time.

it appears they caved to the arizona senate subpeona, and will be providing access to routers, logs, and other material they had been refusing to provide.

see page 44

title was AZ audit - maricopa county tells senate f* you- AZ Audit Hearing Fri Sept 24 1pm

9/16 senator rogers announces hearing for az audit results  Fri Sept 24 1pm

9/08 - liz harris put out a report today on findings of a volunteer arizona canvas, more on page 40

9/03 - truethevote to release video soon of ballot harvesting - stories page 40

8/30 - colorado sos blocks any audit, dekalb county chain of custody problems page 40

8/21 mastriano had tried to start a pennsylvania audit, it has been blocked by corman, with corman saying it's problems with mastriano and mastriano is no longer doing one

see page 38 for posts


aeroworksxp clips from lindell event
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/AZ-audit-maricopa-county-tells-senate-f-you-az-audit-draft-being-prepared/5-2475195/?page=32#i94234212


data analysis by seek2 regarding arizona voting patterns
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/AZ-audit-maricopa-county-tells-senate-f-you-az-audit-draft-being-prepared/5-2475195/?page=28#i94198695
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/AZ-audit-maricopa-county-tells-senate-f-you-fulton-co-ga-election-chief-resigns/5-2475195/?page=36#i94274101
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/AZ-audit-maricopa-county-tells-senate-f-you-fulton-co-ga-election-chief-resigns/5-2475195/?r=-1&page=37&anc=94323664#i94307712

8-17 az audit draft being prepared, to be presented to az senate for review before release
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/AZ-audit-maricopa-county-tells-senate-f-you-fulton-co-ga-election-chief-resigns/5-2475195/?r=-1&page=37&anc=94323664#i94338799

8-15 Georgia Fulton County Elections Chief Ralph Jones Resigns  He Ran the Late Night Ballot Dump Operation in Atlanta
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/AZ-audit-maricopa-county-tells-senate-f-you-8-2-borrelli-files-AG-complaint-Wisc-issues-subpoenas/5-2475195/?page=37#i94298990



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maricopa refuses to provide material despite az senate subpoena


https://ktar.com/story/4605193/maricopa-county-defiantly-responds-to-arizona-senates-audit-subpoena/

the arizona senate is currently out of session, and doesn't have the votes to hold maricopa in contempt because there have been 2 gop, including ugenti-rita who is running to be the next secretary of state in charge of elections, that refuse to investigate the election or support legislation to improve election integrity

so what is next?

there is suppose to be a canvas of suspicious voters on the voting rolls that have voted in the last election beginning soon.

the canvas is suppose to look at voters with problems such as 10's to 100's of voters registered to addresses that are businesses, single family homes, vacant lots, etc. and try to invalidate the maricopa votes


edit title was arizona audit - maricopa county tells az senate f* you, not going to give you anything 8/2/21

Update - borrelli files complaint with AG to have maricopa investigated for violating subpoena, which could result in maricopa losing 10% of it's share of tax revenue for a year


https://www.azmirror.com/blog/borrelli-wants-ag-to-take-action-against-supervisors-over-subpoena-defiance/
more details in article

edit - title was AZ audit - maricopa county tells senate f* you on anything 8/2/21-UPD borrelli files AG complaint


8-6-21
it's tgp, but from oann, so....



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/wisconsin-rep-janel-brandtjen-issues-subpoenas-audit-2-counties/

There were several already lined up.

No, the VP's role is also to *only* count those electoral votes which are valid. Which, as has been shown, they were not.

Arizona was the only state prior to the so-called "riot" that did. Others were on tap to do so as well.

Dayum these trolls are persistent. And, well, they should be - they’re getting compensated for it.

Who should I send my bill to?

“Lined up” is irrelevant. No senator challenged the EC votes from any state except Az. Why is this such a difficult concept to grasp?

Sure. Except congress, not the VP, decides which EC votes are valid. And they decided they all were.

Sort of ironic that the temper tantrum thrown by all those idiots on Jan 6 actually prevented congressional objections to the EC votes of a half dozen other states.

Once it becomes apparent, I ignore them.

Ok, apparently it's time to break out the crayons again.  Let's walk the dog starting with 3 USC 15:

This bit is self explanatory.  VP, in their role as President of the Senate, oversees the process of counting electoral votes on the prescribed day and time.




VP opens the votes, hands them to a couple staff flunkies who verify he/she isn't making shit up, and announces the result which is then entered into the official record.




Now the part that is apparently causing a LOT of confusion for some reason.  

VP calls for any objection to the votes as announced.  Any objection must be in writing and requires concurrence of at least one Senator and one Representative.




At that point, counting is suspended and the House and Senate adjourn to separate sessions to debate the objection.




The conduct of that debate is set in 3 USC 17:




Back to 3 USC 15 for an important bit about votes which can or cannot be rejected.




But what is section 6?  Glad you asked.  Section 6 says that the States are responsible for appointing electors.



"But dmnoid!" you say, "the States broke their own rules so Congress can throw it all out!".  "Alternate slate of electors!".  Got you covered, fam.  Still in 3 USC 15.




3 USC 5 says that appointment of electors is State business and whomever the State certifies as electors are electors provided they do so at least six days in advance of the deadline.




Back to 3 USC 15 where it says Congress only gets to make arbitrary decisions about votes if the State makes no determination about the validity of its electors.  Even then, it's not really arbitrary because it again requires the concurrence of both Houses.




Once all the drama is concluded the VP announces the results.




Absolutely nowhere in any of that pile of law and procedure does it say the VP can do anything but preside over the conduct of the proceeding, read the votes as provided by the States, and report the results for the official record.  In point of fact, his/her authority is specifically spelled out in 3 USC 18:

Not sure you can break it down more simply than that. Though I doubt you’re going to enlighten anybody who refuses to keep their blinders on.

Our founder’s would never have wasted time articulating such a useless role.

So now it's useless?  But I thought the VP could throw out electoral votes?

Make up your mind.

It’s useless today, since we have the internet, tv, and phones.

It wasn’t useless in 1887.

Day late and a dollar short.

@planemaker

We had processes and procedures.

Leadership just didn't have the will to enforce them, because they were in on it.

“My country has in its wisdom contrived for me the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived.”

-  John Adams speaking of his role as Vice President to George Washington

WI Supreme Court Decision

https://www.wicourts.gov/sc/opinion/DisplayDocument.pdf?content=pdf&seqNo=542617

https://issuesinsights.com/2022/08/01/a-declaration-of-dissolution-wisconsin-supreme-court-fires-the-starting-gun/

A declaration of dissolution wisconsin supreme court fires the starting gun

“If elections are conducted outside of the law, the people have not conferred their consent on the government. Such elections are unlawful, and their results are illegitimate.” — Justice Rebecca Grassl Bradley, writing for the Wisconsin Supreme Court majority in Teigen v. Wisconsin Elections Commission

Acourt of law has finally confirmed it: The 2020 election was “illegitimate.” And all the demands for sufficient evidence of voter fraud to reverse the outcome were a red herring.

The truly dispositive factor, as stated by a Republican Wisconsin state legislator in a March hearing and affirmed in the opinion: “If a vote is cast in an illegal process, it’s an illegal vote!”

The reasons for legislatively enacted absentee ballot protections are clear. Justice Bradley quotes the Wisconsin Legislature’s rationale: “(P)revent the potential for fraud or abuse … overzealous solicitation of absent electors who may prefer not to participate in an election … undue influence on an absent elector … or other similar abuses.”

And that’s exactly what unlawfully relaxed provisions occasioned in Wisconsin:

Nearly 3,600 trips by 138 “mules” to drop boxes to traffic 137,551 votes. (Trump lost the state by about 20,000.)
Illegal assistance with absentee ballots by nursing home staff to residents, some with dementia.
“Zuckerbucks” exploiting these changes to “purchase Joe Biden an additional 65,222 votes, without which Donald Trump would have won the state by 44,540 votes.”
But again, per Wisconsin’s Supremes, Donald Trump didn’t have to prove the existence or extent of fraud, only deviation from legislative schemes. Because – nota bene! – the votes’ unlawful nature is the proof.

The same “pollution” of the “integrity of the results,” as the Court expressed it, occurred in:

Michigan: Unlawfully imposed rules for validating absentee signatures and a refusal to comply with an enactment allowing access to drop-box video surveillance.

Georgia: The Stacey Abrams settlement that, as a U.S. Supreme Court amicus curiae brief demonstrated, ran afoul of schemes regulating – what else? – drop boxes and signature identification.

Pennsylvania: A state Supreme Court decree involving absentee deadlines that, per U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, “squarely alter(ed) an important statutory provision enacted by the Pennsylvania Legislature.”

As Texas and 17 other states argued in a petition to the U.S. Supreme Court, these jurisdictions’ “significant and unconstitutional irregularities … cumulatively preclude(d) knowing who legitimately won the 2020 election.”

Yet observers left and right shrug off the Badger State ruling’s significance. Slate sniffs, “Without a shred of evidence” (to repeat, irrelevant) “the court has thrown its weight behind a dangerous conspiracy theory” (unlawful votes are no “conspiracy”) “that helped to fuel the Jan. 6 insurrection.” (That again.)

And sort of rightward, the Wall Street Journal trots out the usual dismissive arguments:

“Mr. Trump … lagged the state’s GOP congressmen by 63,547. Split tickets by Republicans more than explain why Mr. Trump fell short.”

Really? Trump had 95% approval among Republicans in October 2020. Yet GOP congressmen ran ahead of him?

“Drop boxes were an unlawful delivery method, but if real Wisconsinites put real ballots into them … that isn’t ‘fraud.’”

Again, fraud isn’t dispositive – illegal votes are. Outside anti-fraud provisions, how can anyone know who deposited the ballots?

“Bill Barr told a podcast recently that Mr. Trump was duly warned to get solid lawyers working to defend business-as-usual voting processes. … ‘He ignored that advice. He did not have a legal team prepared to go and fight around the country. So a lot of these, bending of the playing field, were his own fault.’”

Trump’s attorneys combatted unlawful provisions state by state, before and after Nov. 3. Were slapped down repeatedly on the inappropriate “lack of evidence” standard. And even humiliated and threatened with sanctions for representing him.

Plus, try out this argument: “The woman was dressed provocatively and didn’t take self-defense lessons. So that sexual assault was her own fault.”

The Journal did get one thing right: “Judges are unlikely to throw out legitimate votes after the fact.”

Or even illegitimate ones. Alito also wrote that the Pennsylvania case had “national importance. … There is a strong likelihood that the State Supreme Court decision violates the federal Constitution.”

Yet when a majority rejected the Lone Star State’s petition for lack of “a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another state conducts its elections,” even Alito allowed that he “would grant no other relief.”

Of course, that ruling was outrageous. As Justice Bradley wrote, “(A)ll lawful voters … are injured when the institution charged with administering Wisconsin elections does not follow the law, leaving the results in question.” (Emphasis added.)

Petitioning states had an interest in preventing their “lawful voters’” disenfranchisement when battleground jurisdictions’ constitutional infractions led to an “illegitimate” national outcome.

These citizens “have not conferred their consent” for Bidenite misrule and ensuing harm – ruinous inflation, border chaos, institutionalized gender confusion and cancel culture, and global humiliation.

The British crown’s lack of “consent of the governed” led Thomas Jefferson to pen the immortal passage: “When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another.”

It has become necessary. Even the Reddest Waves this November cannot now undo the damage the Zuckerbergs, Jan. 6 zealots and the rest of the “well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies” have wrought to our system and processes. Or prevent another electoral heist in 2024.

Which returns us to the demand articulated here nearly 600 days ago: since they got no help from courts, “Deep red states should simply declare the union dissolved” – Jefferson’s term – “by nefarious actions to disenfranchise Americans.”

Justice Bradley has now officially fired the starting gun. Let the Great American Opt-Out commence.

very interesting, prepared to get swamped by the shareblue shills, never trumpers etc

@cm are you collecting all these links and notes anywhere?

Because eventually this thread will go dormant, either on its own with the passage of time, or more "proactively."

Interesting, but doesn't seem to do much but declare the drop boxes inconsistent with WI law and put it in the hands of the legislature to determine whether or not they are used in the future.

That seems to be the fatal flaw in the process. If few will hear a case and none will prosecute, then what are we left with?

Double tap

I just ignore them.

Same in GA, Kemp and Raspberger are in on it so no investigation will ever occur.

My understanding is that cm will no longer be participating.

Yeah, you posted that same case last month when it was released.


Yep, that's the only outcome of the case.  The 2020 electoral votes are unchanged.

Inconsistent?

"Under Wisconsin statutes, drop boxes are illegal because a voter must personally mail or deliver in person the voter's absentee ballot to the municipal clerk."



Court decision.

Attached File

You can send me the invoice, as well as the proof that 2/3 of Americans believe the 2020 Election was free and fair.

Thank you in advance for your timely response.

Let's look at your favorite website, NPR:

Josh Hawley, Missouri
Ted Cruz, Texas
Tommy Tuberville, Alabama
Roger Marshall, Kansas
John Kennedy, Louisiana
Cindy Hyde-Smith, Mississippi
Ron Johnson - Wisconsin
Tommy Tuberville - Alabama
Bill Hagerty - Tennessee
James Lankford - Oklahoma
Mike Braun - Indiana
Marsha Blackburn - Tennessee
Steve Daines - Montana
Cynthia Loomis - Wyoming

From the article:

Heading into Wednesday's joint session of Congress to tally the Electoral College vote results, lawmakers anticipated a long day peppered with objections hinged on baseless allegations of election fraud. More than a dozen Republican senators had said they would object to at least one state's election results.

They began with a debate over a challenge to Arizona's results. But after pro-Trump extremists brought violence and chaos to the Capitol, both chambers were forced into an emergency recess while the building was locked down.

When lawmakers reconvened hours later, a number of Senate Republicans abandoned their plan to cast objections.

Look at that, Tina Peters still lost.

Recount is over; Tina Peters' primary loss stands

and Kari Lake won

See, no election in fraud in Arizona!  The right person won!  

And of equal importance, so did Finchem for AZ SOS, and his campaign was run pretty much exclusively on fixing the elections system.

And Finchem's race wasn't even close.

As we go into the general, it's going to be very interesting as questioning election integrity is what got Finchem elected,
and the Dem candidate (Fontes) was in charge of Maricopa County's elections in 2020. Fontes running attack ads on Finchem
for questioning the election in a majority republican state is probably going to help Finchem rather than hurt him.

No, it just means they didn’t cheat enough to win.  Doesn’t mean fraud didn’t still happen.  It’s still possible to jump the starting gun but still be slow enough to lose the race.  But you knew that already.

Then I look forward to the years of audits establishing exactly what fraud occurred during this primary.

Looks like he hasn't posted since 7/11, https://www.ar15.com/member/user.html?id=2917

Did get banned or finally just get tired of the trolls chasing him around ?

Yes. Thank you for making my point.

How many ballots were adjudicated in the primary?

Who again, was the one with a hard drive full of screenshots of posts of people he didn’t like, and would follow them around GD posting those screen shots, anytime somebody didn’t pass his Trump cult purity test?

It doesn't even matter what you believe did or didn't happen in 2020 - the idea that someone would risk exposing, and thereby cutting off the future use of, fraud avenues for a primary is just nonsensical. It probably isn't even going to be worth pulling out all the stops for the actual race in a non-Presidential election year, especially given the extra scrutiny that needs to be avoided, but if someone REALLY wanted to commit fraud this time around that is when it will happen.

Bottom line, 2020 was 2020 and what happened in 2020 is not affected retroactively by an election in 2022.

Look dude give it a rest.....

Shenanigunz, I know you love to "counter" information you find inaccurate, so I am surprised you have provided the information that was requested.

Could you show the class where 200 million people that were polled think the 2020 Election was "Fair" and believe there was no fraud?

Sorry bud. You brought up trolls chasing other posters around, not me.

Actually, you can add Kelly Loefler in as well.

You have no point; you play games of a toddler.

You are the one contending that congress critters who didn’t actually object to an electoral college vote should count as something.

If you say you are going to do something, but then don’t do it, guess what? …..you didn’t do it.

The toddler games being played are apparent, though I’m not surprised to see a Trump supporter value words over actions. Just disappointed.

Just general advice,  quit feeding the trolls, ignore them

Just general advice,  quit feeding the trolls, ignore them