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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:39:04 PM EDT
No staking at all?? Arrived from PSA today.

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Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:41:29 PM EDT
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I wonder if the screws can be loosened too.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:41:36 PM EDT
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So..... stake it then?

Unless you want a vampire girlfriend, then don't stake it.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:43:24 PM EDT
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Young Manufacturing doesn't stake at all, and tells you exactly why they don't.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:44:06 PM EDT
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Just tried it. Screws are loose.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:45:01 PM EDT
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Junk,

I’ll give your $50 for it.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:45:34 PM EDT
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Heavy hammer blows reek of inequity...
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:46:30 PM EDT
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That's nice that they made it easy for you to disassemble and inspect upon arrival.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:46:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:47:28 PM EDT
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There was an attempt, but it was a piss poor one at that.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:48:52 PM EDT
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Just bite down on it, really hard.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:49:06 PM EDT
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I’ve have two. Same story.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:50:22 PM EDT
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This, you can see the evidence of a swing and a miss.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:52:22 PM EDT
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With all the shit going on now I guess quality is a little too much to ask for. Fucking junk.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:57:35 PM EDT
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Young Manufacturing doesn't stake at all, and tells you exactly why they don't.
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and they’re wrong too
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:58:15 PM EDT
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With all the shit going on now I guess quality is a little too much to ask for. Fucking junk.
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With all the shit going on now I guess quality is a little too much to ask for. Fucking junk.

Stake it yourself, then have beer and relax.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:03:01 PM EDT
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same just also got 2.. there's another thread in ar general with similar if not identical pics, looks just like mine. ones i bought a year ago were fine bwe, not a big deal i guess. Gonna get a good punch or something i guess and give em a wack

https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Tool-craft-bcg-gas-key-staking-/118-760734/




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Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:03:12 PM EDT
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Brownells sells a staking tool. HERE
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:07:35 PM EDT
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WTF, I'm going to have to inspect my bolts now, just to make sure.

I didn't know this was a thing.

Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:08:45 PM EDT
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Send that thing back. They are probably busy so post in their industry forum and tag them.

And staking matters Young manufacturing is full of shit.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:12:10 PM EDT
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Send that thing back. They are probably busy so post in their industry forum and tag them.

And staking matters Young manufacturing is full of shit.
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Yeah, it’s going back. I’m not doing their work for them.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:12:56 PM EDT
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Woof, that’s bad.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:13:35 PM EDT
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Young Manufacturing doesn't stake at all, and tells you exactly why they don't.
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And I’ll tell Young why I stake their carriers that I own.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:15:08 PM EDT
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Yeah, it’s going back. I’m not doing their work for them.
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Send that thing back. They are probably busy so post in their industry forum and tag them.

And staking matters Young manufacturing is full of shit.


Yeah, it’s going back. I’m not doing their work for them.

I'd bitch and get some mags.  Keep them,  they may not have a replacement for you.

This is a toolcraft issue, not psa correct?

Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:15:38 PM EDT
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I still have a Bushmaster BCG from the late ‘90s that was “improperly” staked and is still good after thousands of rounds.

OP, if it concerns you, just stake it yourself. Easy job with a $7 spring-loaded punch.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:15:53 PM EDT
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With everything being rushed right now,  expect QC issues on almost everything.

ETA I ordered 10 PSA Nitrided ones when they were $59 back in June. All staking is way better than that. Waiting till they hit $200 and dump them
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:16:46 PM EDT
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And I’ll tell Young why I stake their carriers that I own.
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Young Manufacturing doesn't stake at all, and tells you exactly why they don't.


And I’ll tell Young why I stake their carriers that I own.

I own one. I staked it.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:18:50 PM EDT
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Throw it down the drive way then soak in olive oil.

Should be ready to go after that.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:21:05 PM EDT
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I'd bitch and get some mags.  Keep them,  they may not have a replacement for you.

This is a toolcraft issue, not psa correct?

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Send that thing back. They are probably busy so post in their industry forum and tag them.

And staking matters Young manufacturing is full of shit.


Yeah, it’s going back. I’m not doing their work for them.

I'd bitch and get some mags.  Keep them,  they may not have a replacement for you.

This is a toolcraft issue, not psa correct?



I’d say it’s a Toolcraft issue but someone at PSA should have at least looked at the damn thing before throwing it in the box considering they had 9 days to check it. I was planning another order for some stuff tonight. So much for that now.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:24:14 PM EDT
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Pocket Moacks Tool

I bought this years ago and for me solved all of my staking issues.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:27:08 PM EDT
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Pocket Moacks Tool

I bought this years ago and for me solved all of my staking issues.
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I should have bought a staking tool awhile back but I’ve never had any issues till now.

I’m not doing their work for them.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:27:22 PM EDT
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Maybe I'm wrong but feel TC has been a bit overrated since day 1 really. They were hot out the gate cause they were $75. I've had 3 of em, one was out of spec, bad. Other 2 GTG though. Never owned another cheap BCG since.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:27:31 PM EDT
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I'd say it's a Toolcraft issue but someone at PSA should have at least looked at the damn thing before throwing it in the box considering they had 9 days to check it.
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Send that thing back. They are probably busy so post in their industry forum and tag them.

And staking matters Young manufacturing is full of shit.


Yeah, it's going back. I'm not doing their work for them.

I'd bitch and get some mags.  Keep them,  they may not have a replacement for you.

This is a toolcraft issue, not psa correct?



I'd say it's a Toolcraft issue but someone at PSA should have at least looked at the damn thing before throwing it in the box considering they had 9 days to check it.
Wat.

That's like expecting Walmart to inspect every piece of merchandise before they sell it.

Well... was this a standalone purchase or a complete upper? If it was just purchased as a bare bcg then I'd have zero expectation that PSA is running a QC check on Toolcrafts staking.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:29:05 PM EDT
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WTF, I'm going to have to inspect my bolts now, just to make sure.

I didn't know this was a thing.

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Umm, there's no staking on a bolt.

Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:29:44 PM EDT
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I’d say it’s a Toolcraft issue but someone at PSA should have at least looked at the damn thing before throwing it in the box considering they had 9 days to check it. I was planning another order for some stuff tonight. So much for that now.
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Yeah, no one is checking anything in a shipping facility. Part number on the box/bag/bin right? Ship it.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:30:56 PM EDT
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Pocket Moacks Tool

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Looks nice but dang that's pretty pricey for a what looks like simple little piece. I mean, I'd rather have that than a punch but dang. And I like nice tools

ETA that's two dangs in one post. Im going all Joe Dirt I guess.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:32:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:33:20 PM EDT
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Wat.

That's like expecting Walmart to inspect every piece of merchandise before they sell it.

Well... was this a standalone purchase or a complete upper? If it was just purchased as a bare bcg then I'd have zero expectation that PSA is running a QC check on Toolcrafts staking.
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I wouldn’t expect them to disassemble it and mic the parts but they are AR rifle manufacturers and parts sellers. A quick visual ain’t too much to ask for IMHO.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:36:00 PM EDT
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LOL......
Looks better than mine. At least someone tried.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:36:06 PM EDT
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Shit I just got 2 in that I haven't opened.  I'll have to take a look.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:37:21 PM EDT
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I wouldn’t expect them to disassemble it and mic the parts but they are AR rifle manufacturers and parts sellers. A quick visual ain’t too much to ask for IMHO.
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Well, not too much to ask but completely unrealistic. Its a TC from PSA dude.. during crazy times. Stake it and run it
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:39:10 PM EDT
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Well, not too much to ask but completely unrealistic. Its a TC from PSA dude.. during crazy times. Stake it and run it
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I wouldn’t expect them to disassemble it and mic the parts but they are AR rifle manufacturers and parts sellers. A quick visual ain’t too much to ask for IMHO.

Well, not too much to ask but completely unrealistic. Its a TC from PSA dude.. during crazy times. Stake it and run it

I wouldn't return shit that I had in my hand.  Not right now.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:39:52 PM EDT
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Yeah, it’s going back. I’m not doing their work for them.
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Send that thing back. They are probably busy so post in their industry forum and tag them.

And staking matters Young manufacturing is full of shit.


Yeah, it’s going back. I’m not doing their work for them.


It's a good excuse go buy a MOACKS.

I did for a poorly machined AAC gas key that I had to replace and don't regret it.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:39:57 PM EDT
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Just tried it. Screws are loose.
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I wonder if the screws can be loosened too.


Just tried it. Screws are loose.

red loctite, 56 in-lbs.  new key and screws.

fixed.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:40:22 PM EDT
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LOFL
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:40:40 PM EDT
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Would you say that... PSA has lost a customer?
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:40:51 PM EDT
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I wouldn't expect them to disassemble it and mic the parts but they are AR rifle manufacturers and parts sellers. A quick visual ain't too much to ask for IMHO.
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Wat.

That's like expecting Walmart to inspect every piece of merchandise before they sell it.

Well... was this a standalone purchase or a complete upper? If it was just purchased as a bare bcg then I'd have zero expectation that PSA is running a QC check on Toolcrafts staking.


I wouldn't expect them to disassemble it and mic the parts but they are AR rifle manufacturers and parts sellers. A quick visual ain't too much to ask for IMHO.
I'm just telling you that your expectations are way too high. The kid in the shipping dept isn't even qualified to QC all of the thousands of parts that a retailer like PSA sells anyway.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:41:02 PM EDT
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Looks better than mine. At least someone tried.
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That's a point.

Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:42:13 PM EDT
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I'm just telling you that your expectations are way too high. The kid in the shipping dept isn't even qualified to QC all of the thousands of parts that a retailer like PSA sells anyway.
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Wat.

That's like expecting Walmart to inspect every piece of merchandise before they sell it.

Well... was this a standalone purchase or a complete upper? If it was just purchased as a bare bcg then I'd have zero expectation that PSA is running a QC check on Toolcrafts staking.


I wouldn't expect them to disassemble it and mic the parts but they are AR rifle manufacturers and parts sellers. A quick visual ain't too much to ask for IMHO.
I'm just telling you that your expectations are way too high. The kid in the shipping dept isn't even qualified to QC all of the thousands of parts that a retailer like PSA sells anyway.

Or even wtf staking is.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:43:30 PM EDT
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No.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:43:44 PM EDT
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What about parts?

Would you return parts?
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